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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:04 pm 
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FINALCALL SAID

By learning to hear the Holy Spirit and/or listen to the Truth, what have you learned about yourself?
Sometimes, I would be so busy focusing on what could/would be learned from any spiritual enlightenment that I would forget to learn about myself.
As a JW I used to think that if I had lived through seeing a miracle like the Israelites when they were in Egypt or in the wilderness that I would never lose faith. Now, I have seen miracles. And, I have proven to be just like Israel.
I have learned that I am more stubborn and haughty than I thought. I have learned that I disobey often. I have learned that I do many more things that need forgiveness than I ever thought.
I do not say these things to be negative. I say them to be positive. Because all the mistakes, scewups, running, hiding, failings that I have experienced have taught me how loving and forgiving our heavenly Father Jah and his Son Jaheshua truly are.

The more our heavenly father forgives me. The more I realize the need to forgive others. Being forgiven so often has made it easier for me to forgive others. I have in no way perfected forgiveness, but definitely give it more readily than before.

I see this as positive growth.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:04 pm 
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......And all I can say to that is Amen!!!

May all praise him for his mercy, love and continued compassion and foregiveness to such a stubborn/stiff-necked nation of people. <<<US>>>

Love to you always
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PSACRAMENTO SAID

I have learned how undeserving of His Grace I am.
Truly, it is a gift given freely of His love and not due to ANYTHING we do.


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TEC SAID

What a beautiful post.

I have learned that I can be cowardly and prideful. I also do not listen far too often, or do not put trust in what I hear from Him.

I am learning from Him to be stronger. I don't know what I have been able to do about that pride, but I am learning to ignore it even if it rears its head. And I am learning to put faith in what he tells me, and to do as He tells me. I take a step forward, and also a step back, but He has not given up on me.

From that, i have learned that he is always faithful, even though i am not always so. That IS humbling.

Peace to you!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:11 pm 
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FINALCALL SAID

Thank you
Justmom, tec and PS.

Sometimes it can be difficult to talk about attributes that we may not be proud of. I find it amazing how we learn so much about our heavenly Father's qualities through some of our own weaknesses.

Finalcall

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TEC SAID

I agree 100%. I asked for something the other day. I asked for the wrong reasons, but I knew even as i asked, that He would answer... simply because I asked, and HE is faithful, even when I am not.

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JUSTMOM SAID

I'm so laughing right now dear tec, because I too can relate.

Thanks for that
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:12 pm 
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PSACRAMENTO SAID


Oh yeah, I hear you.
I ask for gusts of wind when I see short skirts and rain falls when I see sheer white blouses.
He NEVER answers those prayers.
EVER. :shock:


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GLADIATOR SAID

Well as you asked finalcall - As the years pass, I suppose I have come to realize that what I have thought of as myself was an illusion, a changing collection of memories, feelings and snippets of information.

My sense of self has faded and been replaced with a simple sense of being that has no definite identity. Turmoil has been replaced with peace, confusion with stillness.


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WHEELOCKSLATIN SAID

thanks for the good laugh
seeing such clarity in others

i too fall short every five minutes
and was astounded upon hearing a little boy
who was on trial in a grocery store
during the Canadian tv movie "Little Kidnappers"
as adults all around looked at him and he said something like
"please, all present, forgive me for i am but a sinner"
i'd not heard such honesty before

self righteous i am for being forgiven countless times
and in big ways like a million denarii
yet i awaken the next day
forgetful
and promptly pursue a debtor of five denarii


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YPPUPLLEH SAID

My lesson/discovery is a bit more mundane...


I've learned that it's okay to not refrigerate a jar of peanut butter
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LEANN SAID

I have learned that I am much stronger than I thought. Learned to stand up for myself when I need too, but dont do it enough. I realize I take things too personally sometimes.

Learned to listen to my gut feelings over my emotions.,, but they get in the way all the time..

But its all ok, because we are hear to learn.


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Well, I have learned that I'm not "crazy," dear FC (the greatest of love and peace to you!), contrary to what some might wish to think (LOL!)... but just "faithful." I do not say that to blow my own horn, but just as a matter of truth. For YEARS I thought something was "wrong" with me because I wasn't "like" most everyone else, and because of what I would "hear". When my Lord finally appeared and explained it to me... well, it was like finally coming to life (pun intended)!

In coming to this knowledge, I also learned that while I am somewhat "booksmart"... I am not wise, at all, not by any stretch... but actually very foolish... and that I really don't "know" anything... but what I do know I have been given. This is very humbling, actually, because we live in a world and time where personal knowledge... "expertise"... is considered a virtue. That makes sense, in this world, true. But when dealing with the spirit realm... which is far, far vaster than this one... it is vanity and folly.

I have also learned that while I THOUGHT I knew love, joy, peace, faith, kindness, mildness, goodness, long-suffering, and self-control... I actually had NO knowledge of these, not even a "mustard seed"... and so had to learn them. And that even in learning them... I take 3 steps forward... and one step back. Always. So that my progress is slow, MUCH slower than I ever imagined. Because although I have a "perfect" set of prints to follow, I KNOW I will NEVER follow in his steps perfectly. I simply cannot do it. MY best is to just try to stay on the road (where I've seen that although HIS steps are straight down the middle, with NO deviation), the steps of others, including mine... are all over the place. Sometimes all the way to the edge, either to the left or right! Sometimes even walking along those edges for some time... but always turning in and TRYING to get back to the middle (most often, they veer through the middle and meander to the OTHER edge - LOL!).

But... I keep pressing forward. And part of that includes stopping to take a "rest" from time to time, then running to catch up. I am not made of what HE is now and so MY flesh tends to "give out" from time to time. Thankfully, he IS perfect in "long-suffering" and sometimes waits for me, even comes back to "get" me. Which is understandable as that's what a FINE shepherd would do, right - go and look for a lost sheep, so as not to lose even one?

I think one of the most IMPORTANT things I learned, though, from my Lord a LONG time ago was that his words, "With the SAME judgment that you judge others you WILL be judged (notice, WILL be judged, not MAY be judged)... are TRUE. I learned that every thing that I ever judged another for not only showed me to be a hypocrite but also came back to smack me in my own face... sooner or later. And hurt when it did! And so, I try NOT to judge others... as to anything and/or on ANY level... because of this. This, IMHO, was a PROMISE, as well as a warning... and one many take way too lightly. Thus, now, I just look at it as "to their own master they will stand... or fall." It is not MY concern what others do, don't do, how they do it, don't it, IF they do it, don't do it, etc.

As a result of all of these lessons, I've learned to live MY life... not in comparison to anyone else's... on any level or as to anything... except Christ. I don't look at others homes, or dress, or car, or job, or way of doing things... in comparison to mine or what I'm doing. Because no one else can save me, no one else can guide me through this "darkness"... and I don't really need anyone else's "approval", not really... except Christ. And by looking at HIM... I get plenty "approval" from others. Sometimes more than I can handle/am comfortable with... because, again, it isn't really ME, but HIM.

I am sure there are many other things that I've learned... but these seem the most important to me, right now.

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:15 pm 
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I have learned that I get really mad when I hear people preach falsehoods about Yahveh or Yaheshua and or they try to put on a show when preaching, thus drawing worship away from the Father. I get really pissed off and have to call them to account. Staying in the local Mission overnight I see this time and again.
I try to not let it bother me, but my blood just boils when I see these antics.
Examples include someone preaching and raising and lowering their voice when speaking the name "Jesus" and having others behind them saying "Praise God, Hallelujah, Amen, Glory be to God" over and over again with no particular reason except to make themselves appear righteous in the eyes of those in the audience.
Other examples: When talking a preacher will intersperse his words with random phrases such as "Amen" or "Praise God" and I don't mean for emphasis, I mean silly things like "I was walking down the road, Praise God, and I saw a homeless man, Amen, and I asked him where he was going and he said "Praise God, I'm going to see Jesus. Amen,...Praise God...

OR things such as "We Love God right?" WOOT WOOT, Amen!?

I just want to slap these people and their self serving ways.

I rarely get mad about anything, but when supposed Christians who do these sort of things I become quite indignant.

Lastly (I have seen this a lot on Facebook), people showing pictures of themselves doing "righteous" things such as feeding the poor or handing out Bible, neither of which is bad in and of itself, but the way in which attention is brought to themselves by these pictures does seem wrong.
Matthew 6:3-5 seems to show what they are doing and why and yet when pointed out to them people become indignant.

{erhaps I'm just over zealous. Just call me Phineas..

YSand FSoC
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MEDEWTYSENU SAID

However I want to add that I'm not trying to judge these ones, or maybe I am. It just makes me think that the message they're trying to send forth is being impeded by their delivery, though truth be told there does seem to be lots of audience participation. I never went to a church much as a youngster so I don't know if this type of behavior is normal and also being used to the droll, boring WTBTS way of doing things I tend to see formal worship as being more orderly and subdued than the antics currently on display in my local mission.

I;m not saying that the people themselves are unrighteous (for they well may be very righteous in God's eyes) but the way they present their message seems quite showy to me.

/shrug

YSand FSofC
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