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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:06 am 
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Greetings, dear Kassad and GLT... and peace to you both!

while the Bible talks about God, it does so to teach us about ourselves: where we came from, where we are now, and where we should be headed.

It was supposed to that... for ISRAEL... and those that went with/joined her, yes, dear GLT... but BEFORE Christ, dear one. It contained the Law, as well as Israel's history, chronologies, records, etc. It was tampered with, however, and used to MISLEAD Israel (and those who when with/joined to her). Due to the false pen of the copyists/scribes, Israel had been led ASTRAY by the "Bible." Which is they Christ said:

1. "WOE to you... scribes... hypocrites!" - These had been bribed by many, including the priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and others... to write what they wanted Israel to "know," rather than what the original writings had stated. Which is why my Lord ALSO said:

2. "I came... to bear witness to the TRUTH."

And so on MANY occasions he said to those who listened:

3. "You HEARD it was said... but I say to you..."

and then he would tell them something DIFFERENT from whatever it was they had heard. He said "heard," because Israel no longer really read the Law or records. Rather than adhering to what was stated at Psalm 1:1, 2, they did what most have done today: turned that task over... to OTHERS... who deign to read and so INTERPRET them FOR them. So, they "heard" just as many today "hear": from others. What OTHERS "say"... "the Bible says." Which is why so many have NO clue as to what it says on a number of things.

Once Christ came, however, HE was now the "Word" Israel... and those who went with/join them were to listen to. Which is why not only did the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies say, when my Lord came up from the Jordan:

1. "This is my Son, the Beloved; LISTEN TO HIM"...

but my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) confirmed that HE was that Son:

"He came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. And he was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, he found the place where it was written:

The Spirit of JaHVeH is upon Me,
Because He has anointed ME
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent ME to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of JaHVeH.”

"Then he closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. And he said to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.”


Luke 4:16-21; Isaiah 61:1-3

From that day on... they, Israel... and all who went with/joined to them... were to look at HIM, listen to HIM, follow HIM... and NOT the Law/Scriptures/Bible. Because he was the END of all of that, as Paul wrote in his letter to the Corinthians.

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Must be one of the reason why John, in writing his letters, chose to keep it as short as possible, and prefers verbal communication. 1 John 1:12, 3 John 1:13


For John, that appears to be true, dear Kassad. But some of of more words than others, verbally; some are better at writing. And we can all agree that what's in writing is often subject to misinterpretation, even today. And ever here. But it wasn't always possible to share verbally, as John seemed to prefer, as Israel had been "scattered", first throughout Judea and Samaria, then (and today) throughout the world. And so sometimes more had to be reached but in a short period of time... and by very... mmmmmmm... "covert" means. John was directing his words to specific individuals, as Paul also often did, but Paul also addressed entire groups (as Peter, Luke, James, Jude, and others did).

Also keep in mind that each one is given different "gifts" of the spirit, as well as different PORTIONS (talents/minas). Paul had done a lot of damage; he was responsible for a LOT of deaths/imprisonments. He had to account for each one. And he did, eventually, which is why he could finally say that he WAS free "of the bloodguilt" of all men. He had given HIS life in exchange for those he had helped murder/imprison.

My Lord did more, though: he gave HIS life... on behalf of the entire world, not just a few. So that ANY who wished to come to him and take advantage of HIS sacrifice... so as to have their sins covered... could do so. Not just a few hundred or so who were killed by opposition, but ALL of mankind... from Adham until this day.

I hope this helps, dear ones, and again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellama


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:59 am 
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[quote="AGuest"]

From that day on... they, Israel... and all who went with/joined to them... were to look at HIM, listen to HIM, follow HIM... and NOT the Law/Scriptures/Bible. Because he was the END of all of that, as Paul wrote in his letter to the Corinthians.

Shellama[quote/]


YES and YES! :D

Anytime, Anywhere, Anything we wonder whether or not Jah IS or IS NOT...
all we have to do is look to the one " He sent." We do not need to concern ourselves with what people say or feel or interpret as to what they think Jah would do or say Himself. He showed us in the best possible way he can. As a spirit being, he sent IN THE FLESH the exact representation of what he IS and how he would treat us.

In between, what is written that does not " TRUTHFULLY" reveal that Jah IS LOVE, ( an energy that is so powerful) is not from Him or His son. It is what our adversary uses to mislead us causing us to blame him, doubt him, be angry at his patience because of our IMpatience to set matters straight.

It has been working and continues to work for two thousand years.

Only those that truly want to hear, see, and understand The Truth which is CHRIST will accept this.
What is in our hearts he allows to be revealed. That is why I need to pray constantly for my heart to be cleansed, refined, made to DO His will, so that I do not manifest a spirit that my adversary Satan wants that is contrary to what my Lord has shown ME...

The surpassing way of LOVE!!! That it does NOT FAIL!!!

And that even when I fail with my weaknesses, he NEVER does! What a true, loyal family to have NOW especially after some of us losing the families we thought were our true families. This is where for me my faith is...that even when father, mother, brother and sister has abandoned me, THEY, Jah and CHRIST never will! What more could one ask for. How can we NOT love them?

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Love to you ALL this beautiful morning
Justmom :D


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And that even when I fail with my weaknesses, he NEVER does! What a true, loyal family to have NOW especially after some of us losing the families we thought were our true families. This is where for me my faith is...that even when father, mother, brother and sister has abandoned me, THEY, Jah and CHRIST never will!


Good news indeed. Thanks All!


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Hey guys, Just want to share this quote with you, I stumbled upon it in tumblr at the same time that discussions here were going on, and its so in tune with what has been said:

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When John declares that “in the beginning was the word,” he does not reach a climax with “and the word was written down” but “and the word became flesh.” The letter to the Hebrews speaks glowingly of God speaking through scripture in time past, but insists that now, at last, God has spoken through his own son (1:1–2). Since these are themselves “scriptural” statements, that means that scripture itself points— authoritatively, if it does indeed possess authority!— away from itself and to the fact that final and true authority belongs to God himself, now delegated to Jesus Christ. It is Jesus, according to John 8:39– 40, who speaks the truth which he has heard from God. The familiar phrase “the authority of scripture” thus turns out to be more complicated than it might at first sight appear. This hidden complication may perhaps be the reason why some current debates remain so sterile. - N.T. Wright


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kassad84 wrote:
Hey guys, Just want to share this quote with you, I stumbled upon it in tumblr at the same time that discussions here were going on, and its so in tune with what has been said:

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When John declares that “in the beginning was the word,” he does not reach a climax with “and the word was written down” but “and the word became flesh.” The letter to the Hebrews speaks glowingly of God speaking through scripture in time past, but insists that now, at last, God has spoken through his own son (1:1–2). Since these are themselves “scriptural” statements, that means that scripture itself points— authoritatively, if it does indeed possess authority!— away from itself and to the fact that final and true authority belongs to God himself, now delegated to Jesus Christ. It is Jesus, according to John 8:39– 40, who speaks the truth which he has heard from God. The familiar phrase “the authority of scripture” thus turns out to be more complicated than it might at first sight appear. This hidden complication may perhaps be the reason why some current debates remain so sterile. - N.T. Wright





Good morning dear Kassad....

Thank you for sharing this. YES!!!

This word did not become something written as seen by these verses. This " WORD" became flesh.
This WORD is reemphasized by John in his vision in REVELATION 19:12 & 13...

" His eyes are fiery flame, upon His head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself. He is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is...
THE WORD OF GOD."

Just wanted to add to your lovely comment :mrgreen:
Love Justmom.


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HUGE smile, dear Kassad (peace to you!). HUGE.

I am glad that statement resounded with you. Maybe it will help YOU break through whatever challenge you have, if you DO still have... to KNOWING that Christ IS the Word... that he IS alive... and SPEAKS... and NOT the Bible or any written word... and so the One we MUST go to to know God. Not know ABOUT Him, but know Him. As Christ is recorded to have said:

"THIS means everlasting life: their KNOWING You, the True God... AND the One whom you send forth."

And NOT the very false WTBTS rendering of "taking in knowledge of." What is that, taking in knowledge of? So, you get to know ABOUT someone. Big deal. It is not the same as KNOWING that person, not at all.

Understanding this truth, that CHRIST is the Word of God, His ONLY Word... is critical. Because one cannot look to/at something they understand IS. But it is Christ to whom we must look; not the Law, not the "writings." The commenter you quoted summed that truth up VERY nicely! THANK you!

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellama


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thanks again guys! :)


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Great quote Kassad!

Peace,
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