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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:29 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

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All of us who believe in Jesus should receive Him. But that has nothing to do with the JWs. What they present isn't Jesus. Partaking of the emblems in the JW shamorial is meaningless.


Burn, it's the difference between receiving him in Holy Communion, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, which is the Catholic belief, and a commemorative participation of bread and wine.


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PSACRAMENTO SAID

I will be doing the Lord's Supper tonight with my family.
After the meal, I speak about Our Lord's love and sacrfice.
I will break the bread and share it with my family.
I will drink the wine and share it with my family.
We will thank the Lord for His love, sacrifice and grace and thank Our Father for all that we are and His strength that enables Us to conquer all.
Me, my wife and my daughters


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:29 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

I shall be going to Mass shortly


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:30 pm 
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My household tries to follow the example when Israel first ate the manna and drank from the rock-mass (that is Christ): everyday.

Then, it was what kept their fleshly lives going while being led by Moses, their mediator, as they wandered in the literal wilderness on their way to the promised land, where their appointed king, David, ultimately (up) built the city of Jerusalem.

NOT, it's what keeps our SPIRITUAL lives going while we are led by Christ, OUR mediator, as WE "wander" in the SPIRITUAL "wilderness" on OUR way to the promised land, where OUR appointed king, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah), is building up the "city" of NEW Jerusalem.

Just as eating the manna and drinking from the water of the rock-mass kept Israel's flesh alive THEN, it is what keeps US alive, in Christ, NOW: the bread that is his flesh... and the "water" that is his blood (holy spirit).

It is how we declare his death... and our union with him... until he returns (from down the mountain... of Zion).

Peace... and may JAH bless you and your dear households... all!

YSSFS of Christ,

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Wow...

I am so happy to hear about everyone's wonderful experience of proclaiming CHRIST before men!

Those that went and observed and know that it is wrong how they shut up the kingdom, maybe next time you may be moved to demonstrate to them the invitation,that is open to ALL. Then they may not think they as SO CRAZY to partake. But whatever you decide it okay with me.

ZOE I appreciate this link as to this brothers experience. It was totally in line to what I heard as well. I do notice a change in the memorial talk outline.
It is shutting up tighter ad tighter this invitation. I actually don't think it could get any worse but they continually seem to outdo themselves each year.

The brother did not discuss the 144,000, Holy Spirit or anointing other than in passing.....

He said that it is only 144,0oo that partake and that ALL of us tonite are here as observers.


He said that any that DO participate are stepping outside of Jehovah's arrangement.


He read 1 Corinthians and stopped at the verse that mentioned Judas being at the table. ( my betrayer is at the table)

He also read the verse at 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says that THEY, JWs
would proclaim the death of CHRIST UNTIL he arrives.
When he arrives and gathers off and away the last ,of the 144 ,000, the observers who have already NOT been proclaiming by partaking , will no longer need this observance. OMG!!!

Sooo, boy oh boy, what a mess they are, my people!

I pray, Father, truly, forgive them!!!
They proudly decline and pass over their One and ONLY means of life.

So, once again, another year has passed. I am very saddened but full of joy to have been able to be sent to demonstrate right in their own HOUSE and partake of the body and blood of CHRIST .

Thank you all for sharing
Love to you all Justmom


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some of my "brothers" of my former congregation who did not see me from 2011 have told my sister and brother in law that what my wife and I made at the partake in the commemoration was an outrage, ridicule and disrespect for them. I just told my sister that none of them can read what is in my heart and I was not surprised at all that attitude towards us.


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I am sorry, Jochy. Look at what they say though, and our Lord allowed me to see... though I doubt they see it themselves:

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some of my "brothers" of my former congregation who did not see me from 2011 have told my sister and brother in law that what my wife and I made at the partake in the commemoration was an outrage, ridicule and disrespect for them.


Is the memorial even supposed to be about them? Or about Christ?

You and your wife know the truth to this answer. But they do not, even though they SAY that it is to remember Christ... they MAKE the memorial about themselves and their teachings/rules/laws.

May you and your wife continue to find strength and peace in our Lord, Jaheshua, the Word and Truth of God.


Peace and love to you both,
tammy


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Thank you my dear Tammy.Your words strengthen me


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As did yours, and Loz's, and Shelby's, strengthen me yesterday.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:31 pm 
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I am SO sorry for those comments, dear Jochy (peace, dear one!), but WE know they don't know what they do, so... we can let it go and move on to next year - LOLOLOL!

BUT... dear 'Mom's words have RATTLED my heart, just now! Well, what I heard from my Lord as a RESULT of them!

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He said that it is only 144,0oo that partake and that ALL of us tonite are here as observers. He said that any that DO participate are stepping outside of Jehovah's arrangement.


Well, he was being a tad presumptuous, wasn't he? But, wait, no, that wasn't it, sorry. Hold a sec, dear ones; I will get to it!

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He read 1 Corinthians and stopped at the verse that mentioned Judas being at the table. ( my betrayer is at the table)


Of course, he did. Hopefully, others read on... like you dear ones did - LOLOL!

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He also read the verse at 1 Corinthians 11:26 that says that THEY, JWs would proclaim the death of CHRIST UNTIL he arrives.
When he arrives and gathers off and away the last ,of the 144 ,000, the observers who have already NOT been proclaiming by partaking, will no longer need this observance. OMG!!!


And so, okay... and here it is:

They are going to end the Memorial, dear ones... when the "last" of those THEY believe are "anointed" have died. They are going to tell their members that "ALL of the 144,000 'are in heaven' now and so the 1000-year reign has begun!"

Now, how are they going to pass THAT off? They've already started, dear ones. Remember... Christ "returned"... in 1914!! And the "144,000" started to be resurrected THEN, per them, yes?! And so, LIKE Christ's "return"... the REIGN, too... WILL BE INVISIBLE!

OMG. Because it is, for now, isn't it? Christ has BEGUN ruling - he started in 30CE! He is "subduing" in the MIDST of his enemies... teaching US peace! And they are going to use that truth... to support their heinous LIE.

Because they HAVE to do something to keep THEIR lie GOING! Else, they're facing a MASS exodus! And, given that next year is... wait for it... 2014... 100 years since "1914"! "Something" HAS to be done - they will lose millions if they don't! And "something" IS going to happen that will serve as another one of their "signs"... and they are going to "announce" that Christ "has begun to rule"... INVISIBLY... with the 144,000!

And they are gearing up for that announcement with this year's propaganda, dear ones. As dear 'Mom quoted:

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When he arrives and gathers off and away [b]the last ,of the 144 ,000


And how will they "know"? They will once again set a date. They will say "the Gentile times have ended" or some such thing, based on a date (based on a PERSON... possibly that young GB member, although, folks should keep in mind that he might NOT profess to be anointed... because they DO teach... and some believe... that "the anointed" WILL hand things over to the non-anointed (which is what they sorta kinda did just before 1975, but ooops... wrong date there, sorry folks and, well, we didn't actually SAY 1975, did we, so...)

Stay awake, dear ones. They are "preparing" their members for when the whole "generations" things peeters out. Next lie already past the planning stages and moved into the implementation stage.

Goodness, they're so transparent anymore...

I, SA, have shared what I heard and received from my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah), just as I heard it from that One.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:32 pm 
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Thank you my sister for sharing ths.

It truly hit my heart with great sadness.

But they have put themselves in this position, that they have NO other choice.
Too many are starting to partake and " hear the call". The numbers if they are truly honest will be even greater than last year.

What are they going to do? What are they going to say?

They have to do something drastic. They have to COMPLETETLY " shut up the kingdom" and not even give any sheep the opportunity to even think about possibly partaking. When the time comes that they make this decision...Without the annual celebration with the emblems they have taken it upon themselves to shut the door of the ARK!

Denying their people complete and total access to the ark so that they may be saved.

...OOoh my! Ooh my!
Forgive them father...please!

Thank you everyone again for your encouragement to me. I am soooo glad I was able to go and be a part of this demonstration.

Love to you all
Justmom


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I didn't even get to finish reading the posts... before I heard this from our Lord and got my heart pounding: they are already proclaiming that the faithful and discreet slave will rule over ALL of Christ's belongings, and they are already preparing the 'sheep' for what those belongings might be.

So an invisible reign... led by a visible channel... over all of Christ's belongings...

Very easy to argue though... an invisible rule, isn't it, at least in the case of the thousand year reign? One of the first questions I would ask would be where are all the resurrected ones that they say will come back? The pirates and such ?


Ending the memorial though... most won't have a problem with that, some because they WANT to believe the wts is the truth and that they have not wasted their time and faith on a lie.

Peace,
tammy


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YES.

Another huge LIE they have to change is the understanding that ARMAGEDDON is not before the 1,000 year reign.

And they believe as you mentioned not only the resurrection will take place during the 1,000 years...But the earth has to be restored into a paradise with their fleshly bodies growing towards perfection.

Soooo where's the LION and the LAMB eating straw together going to be???
LOLOLOL

Wow.. What a " hot mess" ( as jack in the box would say) they are IN!

OOoh my
Love Justmom


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So an invisible reign... led by a visible channel... over all of Christ's belongings...

Peace,
tammy


That was profound ! So true!


Love Justmom


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LEAVINGQUIETLY SAID

There was indeed a new Memorial outline this year. It was such a significant change, the Society felt it necessary to send a special letter along with it to the bodies of elders saying it "has been revised significantly".

The part you may be interested in is regarding 1 Cor 11:26:

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The Lord’s Evening Meal will be observed as long as Christians with the heavenly hope are on earth [Read 1 Corinthians 11:26]
Once the Lord “arrives,” he will take the last of the 144,000 home to be with him in heaven (Joh 14:1-3)
Those with the earthly hope will no longer observe the Memorial
Will not partake of the emblems then, so do not partake now


I'm not certain this is necessarily a change in thinking... more like a change in wording, and as typical, a supposition. It took me by surprise, too, when it was said, though. Is it prepping for a doctrinal change? I don't think so. It does not disagree with the current teaching that some members of the anointed will still be alive during the great tribulation.

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Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller. Yet, referring to the great tribulation, Jesus stated: “Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.” (Matthew 24:21, 22) Evidently, then, some of Christ’s “chosen ones” will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins.


Since Christ doesn't arrive until after the tribulation, this doesn't appear to disagree.


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