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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:34 pm 
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AGUEST SAID

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AAAAiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!! (SA screams, ala the teenage girl in "The "Croods" movie commercial):

I LOVE IT!!!!!

And so I shall USE it, dear tec (peace, chile'!).

Thank you, and peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:34 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

agree with most of the above sentiments on this page.

That we should never judge anyone is fundamental, for several reasons. Firstly, obviously, as has been said, because it is not our business to do so. (Unless, of course, it should be our business because we are in some kind of civil position that actually makes it our business from the civil point of view.)

But as for judging someone's behaviour in non-legal terms, no, we shouldn't and anyway couldn't, not only because judgement is reserved for Our Lord, but because, quite simply, as the ancient proverb pus it, don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. None of us truly know another man's entire circumstances, his background, the influences and pressures on him, his motives, etc. We just can't do it.


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I knew you would "get it", dear, dear Char (peace to you!), without a doubt.

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

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But as for judging someone's behaviour in non-legal terms, no, we shouldn't and anyway couldn't, not only because judgement is reserved for Our Lord, but because, quite simply, as the ancient proverb pus it, don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. None of us truly know another man's entire circumstances, his background, the influences and pressures on him, his motives, etc. We just can't do it.


My dear CHAR

Exactly!! Thank you !!!
So we can LET GO !!!! FORGIVE!!!!
And we WILL be forgiven.
Its that simple.

Love Justmom

P .S. Shouldn't most of us now that we know what the WTBS is...and how they JUDGE "anyone else" not a witness and deserving death...LEARN from it?
Should we still keep this mentality? If so how are we any different than when we were still inside?


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CHARIKLO SAID

Yes. Of course we must forgive. That's exactly the point I've been making for some time, because if we bear a grudge, the person we hurt most is ourselves, even by holding on to hurts that stem from someone else's very wrong actions, perhaps scores of years ago.

Anger can appear to be justified, sometimes, especially if the people injured were those we love, and yet handing it all over to God is always the best way, or we are injuring ourselves and also, in some measure, almost forming an obstacle so that God's healing grace can't work so freely.

Truly, though, God does move in mysterious ways, and nothing we can do, nor anyone else, can ever actually hinder his plans from coming to pass. He can and will always do anything to bring about his purposes, and he will always in the end bring healing. It's just that the less we resist that process, the better and easier it always is, and He gives us rewards that we could never have dreamed of in the most unlocked-for ways. That's what happened in the example I wrote about the other evening.

Isn't that a good thing? What a relief to know that our failings are just human, and he knows our frailty because He made us. Personally, I find that a great relief!

What I was actually saying above, though, was that we can't judge someone else because we are not them. We just don't know all the circumstances from their point of view. Only God can judge because He alone knows everything and everyone through and through. He knows the heart.


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OUTLAW SAID

God doesn`t like Homogaybians,Commie-nists or Vegetarian Pizza!..
If you can`t find it in the Bible,scribble it in somewhere..

When you Die and go to Heaven..Remember.
God doesn`t like Flip Flops(Weird noises when you walk..) or Tanning Oil either..(Makes the Clouds Greasy)..

If you need any more God Advice..
You know where to find me!..

....................................OUTLAW


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:36 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

THAT is just one totally brilliant new word, Outlaw!

I am going to add genius to the Sheriff's many qualities!


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nothing we can do, nor anyone else, can ever actually hinder his plans from coming to pass.



That IS a good thing, Char, I totally agree... and something that I find so comforting.

Peace and love to you,

tammy


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For those who don't know...or claim faith in... Christ, well, yeah, you are kinda on your own in trying to figure it out. So far, that doesn't seem to work well for mankind with matters like this. A LOT of speculation, but very little actual knowledge.


*shrug* It's really not a problem. Most atheists that I have met really don't care much, other than to stop bigotry and hatred brought on by some religious teachings. It would work out just fine.

Of course, there are many believers that don't believe in Christ, but believe in other dieties, and some of them seem to have a problem with it.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Chappy... the partial quote (please correct me if I am mistaken, Shelby) has to do with those who want to know what God's view is on the matter. God's view being the 'it' referred to.

Because what you are talking about - and truthfully so - about the hatred and bigotry brought on by some religious teachings, is what isn't working out so well for mankind, because these ones are not looking at or asking Christ to know what God's view is, on this. Or these ones would KNOW, rather than speculate and then produce 'bigotry and hatred'.

Peace to you,
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[That a certain poster wanted to MAKE is an issue... HERE... is, well, telling. Like someone who has to have a controversy/conflict where there really is none. No one was "against" anyone on the matter, but that wasn't good enough. And so, indication of great spiritual immaturity. I digress.]

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*shrug* It's really not a problem.


Apparently, it really IS a problem, dear Chaps (peace to you!). But I agree, there shouldn't be.

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Most atheists that I have met really don't care much, other than to stop bigotry and hatred brought on by some religious teachings. It would work out just fine.


Most people I know, from all ilks don't care, either. True, those who DO tend to care often ARE religious... and uberly-so, usually. But not all are.

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Of course, there are many believers that don't believe in Christ, but believe in other dieties, and some of them seem to have a problem with it.


And that was my point. Curious that you somehow thought I even gave atheists a thought in this matter, though. I didn't. Why would I, given their lack of religiousness... and the direction of my comments as to trying to be another's moral jailer and/or master over their FAITH? My point was to those who feel they need to debate why it is or is not "okay." Sort of like debating whether African Americans are "really" fully human... or not.

Not sure why, if you did, you thought I thought you... and/or atheists in general... might have a problem. I didn't.

Again, peace to you!

A slave of Christ,


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:38 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

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Like, it appears, Hellpuppy, it seems to me that it would be infinitely preferable not to make hints as to the identity of any poster who has occasioned a comment, to whom one is responding. Better always, isn't it, to call a spade a spade? Rather than, say, something like "a certain tool that some might use when choosing to move earth when gardening".

I've always found, in all circumstances, that clear, plain and simple leads to fewer misunderstandings and that getting things out in the open gets things into the light so that it can be fully seen as it is.

Just my two penn'orth...cents' worth for you transatlantic people!


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How interesting I've always assumed that figure of speech referred to playing card suits lol I never connected it with the gardening tool
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CHARIKLO SAID

As if, Pup, as if!

LOL!

I was up unusually early as I have a very busy day ahead, and my brain was very dustily creaking into gear! It struggled to try to come up with an innocuous inoffensive example!


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