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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:17 pm 
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May you all have peace!

In another thread I quoted dear John as to confessing our sins so as to be forgiven. It reminded me that I am to share as to that issue... and how ones came to be called "father," as directed by our dear Lord. To wit:

The confessing of sins to certain "appointed" (by the Church, NOT JAH/Christ) men is what actually led to some now being called "father"... in spite of our dear Lord's commandment that we are NOT to call such men "father". It occurred when broken-hearted ones, seeking forgiveness, were told that they must go to these MEN to confess their sins and receive forgiveness. Such men deemed themselves successors to the apostles (and still do, today, by means of some melarkey called "apostolic succession" - eye roll)... and so, falsely taught poor (in heart and spirit) ones that such ones had to go to THEM (those false "successors") and confess their sins in order to receive forgiveness (on the basis that the "authority" given to the Apostles - John 20:22, 23) was now THEIRS (such men)... through the laying on of hands (yet, the Apostles themselves did not receive such authority that way... nor did those in the upper room at Pentecost... nor did Saul of Tarsus... or Cornelius... or the Ethiopian eunuch... but only a few through Paul). And so, if one came to THEM... and through THEM (not Christ!)... asked for forgiveness, such poor ones would be forgiven.

Initially, when these poor ones when to the Apostles or those who walked with out dear Lord, they were correctly told, when having asked to be forgiven by these, something to the effect that "only God has authority to forgive sins and He has given that authority to His Son. In the name of JAHESHUA, God's Chosen One [that Son], therefore... your sins are forgiven." Or they would say, something to the effect of "Father, in the name of your Son, JAHESHUA, please forgive this one his/her sins." Something to that effect.

Because of this, dear ones would approach the Apostles, etc., and call out, "Father, forgive me!" They were not addressing the Apostle, etc., directly, but thinking... trying... to address JAH THROUGH such one. They were viewing the Apostles, etc., a mediators, per se, because they knew these had been given AUTHORITY to forgive sins, FROM Christ... such authority executed on the basis of his name. In their humility, however, the Apostles, etc., would always correct such a one and give the glory to JAH (and tell such one to give Him the glory), rightfully (and lovingly) correcting such one and saying THEY were not the Father, but that through Christ, their sins could be forgiven. They would then ASK the Father, in the name of our dear Lord, TO forgive such one.

Eventually, though, the Apostles... and all who walked with them and/or our dear Lord... all died. And then, what was prophesied to occur occurred: the great apostasy. Once that "restraint" was removed... well, it was only a matter of time before, after poor ones going to those deemed (by themselves) to have "authority" and so have others call out "Father!" in the hopes of having such ones intervene on their behalf... began to like the address... to think with reference to THEMSELVES... be encouraged by others (who were liking the same thing)... and so did not CORRECT these poor ones when they erroneously addressed them so.

Over time, though, they began to CALL for such poor ones to refer to them as "Father", justifying it to such poor ones... and themselves... that they weren't REALLY the one(s) being addressed... so why stop them?

And so, what was once meant to be an appeal to someone who was thought (erroneously) to perhaps be able INTERVENE on one's behalf WITH the Father... became an outright reference to such one BEING (the) "Father."

And THAT'S how certain men... priests and whatnot... first came to be called "Father,"... which still occurs today... and why they and those who condone such title... are blinded to what our dear Lord said ABOUT being called such: they don't SEE it as taking the title for themselves, per se, but themselves merely as interveners... with those who come to THEM actually coming to the Father "through" them.

Obviously... they (entirely) miss the point: there is only One mediator... and intervener... between man and God: the SON of God, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). And while these may not think they ARE acting as mediators/interveners, they ARE ignoring the COMMAND of that One... that they should NOT call anyone on earth "Father."

To obey... is BETTER... than sacrifice.

I, SA, have shared this truth with you, just as I received it from my dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). May those with ears hear and get the sense of this truth... and may those without ears but wishing and thirsting be granted such as to hear that (Holy) Spirit and his Bride when they say to such one:

"Come! Take LIFE's (Christ's) 'water'... the holy spirit of God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... which 'water' is His blood, breath, and seed... and is poured out from the innermost parts of that Spirit, His Son... HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... FREE!


Peace to you all!

Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with... and a slave of Christ,

SA


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:49 pm 
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And a host of justifications gives men their 'reasoning' to disobey or explain that He did not mean what He said. Same as with any other doctrine or tradition that goes against what Christ taught those who would follow Him to do. Putting tradition OVER the commands of God (and therefore, over Christ Himself):

"This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to HIM."


It can happen so slow (in some cases) can't it? A gradual and continuing moving away from Christ and His commands, and instead looking toward men and tradition. Before a man knows it, a lie has replaced the truth for him and he doesn't even know it.

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And while these may not think they ARE acting as mediators/interveners, they ARE ignoring the COMMAND of that One... that they should NOT call anyone on earth "Father."

To obey... is BETTER... than sacrifice.


Amen, to this and to all that you have shared.


Peace to you,
your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:25 pm 
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Amen and indeed to all YOU'VE stated here, dear Tams!

Peace to you and to your dear household, chile'!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel


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