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TEC SAID

Great post. I understand much of this.

I guess in a sense this explains that the religions (bug lights) are meant to work like the old law worked for Israel... to teach about sin, and to work as a tutor TO Christ. No more than that. But we can get trapped/bogged down in them, same as people can get trapped/bogged down by the law/old covenant.

This in particular stood out to me as well:



That verse about the carcass and the vultures always stood out to me too. It was out of place, made no sense, and i always just tended to skip over it because of these things.


Peace to you!

tammy

AGUEST SAID

we can get trapped/bogged down in them, same as people can get trapped/bogged down by the law/old covenant.

Both of which lead to death, dear tec (the greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!)... not LIFE. Both the false "christs"... and the Law Covenant. It is only Christ, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... and the NEW Covenant... that lead to life. Hence, that one cries out to mankind:

"THIS is the way, you people! Walk in it!"

He does that when he says:

"I... am... the... WAY [you people]!" and "WALK in (Come to)... ME!"

May the one with ears here and get the SENSE of this truth, as well as to hear when the Spirit and the Bride SAYS to such one:

"COME! Take 'life's water'... FREE!"

A slave of Christ,

SA

LOZ SAID

I am so very relieved. My spirit absolutely bears witness with this. The carcass, definitely the 'body' we gather to, but I had been struggling with the 'eagles'. Interesting that the false christs teach us about the Old Law! I remember having to learn the commandments off by heart as a child, though only barely beginning to understand some of their meanings. Mmm my childhood religious input, lol, a thread all on its own!
Thank you for your patience in sharing this, and appreciation to our Lord for this understanding.

Loz x
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Don't let anyone put you down, and don't do it to yourself.

CHARIKLO SAID

When you use the term "the Old Law", do you mean the Old Testament?

If so, I absolutely agree!

LOZ SAID

And that is the PURPOSE of religion: they are FALSE lights, designed to be beautiful... so as to draw us IN... and then “kill” us. NOT physically... but SPIRITUALLY! By drawing us AWAY from the Life... Christ... and TOWARD them!

This explains why, over time in the WTBS I could feel my spirit waning, very definitely. I used to long for refreshment and of course their rhetoric suggested that the fault was mine. I kept on doing everything I should and more but it felt distinctly like 'illness' as if all my strength was draining away. And of course it actually was. It was a real dilemma for me at the time, I prayed and anguished so much about it and was desperate to understand what was wrong with me. Although the leaving was so painful I feel that Jah led me out, and I'm so thankful to Him and his son for that. They've been so patient with me to bring me to this point, truly.

Loz x
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JUSTMOM SAID




Thank you my sister for sharing this....


It is these false "Christs" or "Lights" that are mentioned at Matthew 24:24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise ......(in the form of many differing religions)....and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones."


It is "IN" these different false lights...under men in charge as a slave that even many of the chosen ones have had to come through.

It is here mentioned at Galatians 4:1-5 "As long as the heir is a babe he does not differ at all from a slave....but under men in charge and under stewards UNTIL the day his father appointeded beforehand. And when the time arrived, God sent forth His Son,who came out of a woman and who came to be under law, that he might release by purchase those under law, receiving an adoption as sons." (releasing us as slaves and making us free sons)

So with this understanding of "religion" whether they be like the WTBS....(as vicious and cruel as they are) or like your neighborhood fellowships/churches (allowing for what seems to be more freedom).......

Spiritual virginity has a whole new understanding than it had before. Remaining "chaste" ...as a virgin...promised in marriage to our Christ. Not allowing ourselves to be committing adultery with other so-called Christs. We are to have "ONE" husband and faithful to that "ONE". ....After all this husband has already proven His LOVE for us. He gave His life for us. How can we not Love him by remaining true to Him until He comes for us?

Just wanted to share
Love Justmom

AGUEST SAID

I DO, dear Char (the greatest of love and peace to you!). If one is bound by the NEW Covenant/Law/Testament... then the OLD one is supposed to be "dead" them. Nailed to the pole with our Lord... who fulfilled it in order to make way FOR the new one.

For those who might be interested, a covenant is a "contract". A contract has 2 or more parties. Sometimes, there is a mediator, one who negotiates the terms between the parties. The Old Covenant is the Law/Testament "contract" between the parties, JAH of Armies and Israel, mediated by Moses (because Israel was too scary to negotiate for themselves when JAH was coming down upon Mount Sinai).

The NEW Covenant is the Law/Testament "contract" between the parties of JAH... and ANYONE WHO WISHES, including Israel (the Jews AND the Samaritans) first, then the nations (non-Israelites)... mediated by Christ.

The first part of the Bible (Genesis to Malachi) is referred to as the "Old Testament" (or Old Covenant by the WTBTS) because it contains "the Law and Moses" - the Law, being the Ten Commandments... and "Moses" being all of the rest of the Covenant (some 680 or so provisions). This is inaccurate, though, because the Law isn't even given until Exodus. So, Genesis is NOT part of the Law OR Moses... and so shouldn't be part of a "Pentateuch"... nor is Job... which may have preceded Abraham (but was also way before the Law was even instituted). In addition, books like the Chronicles, Proverbs, Ecclesaistes, Canticles, etc. aren't "Law" or even part of THE Law (Covenant).

The latter part of the Bible (Matthew through Revelation) is referred to the "New Testament" (or New Covenant by the WTBTS) because it contains the NEW Law... instituted by Christ. However, this is also inaccurate because it also contains more (admonitions and exhortations as TO the New Law, as well as clarifications of its features and promises, but such is not the Law itself).

Neither are "scripture" in and of themselves, but contain scripture (Moses, the Psalms and the Prophets in the OT, and the Revelation in the NT).

Just a bit of trivia... so's you know. No big deal, no need to make an issue. Just wanted you all to have a ACCURATE jknowledge and understanding. You know, in case you need it one day - SMILE!

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

SA

CHARIKLO SAID



Yes, this is my understanding also, and I am so relieved to read it here!

Whereas the Watchtower, appears to insist on every sentence, phrase word almost, in the Bible, as the Word of God, at least in the way it was presented to me locally, our Lord made it clear that he came to bring a new covenant.

You have it exactly, and I am so pleased to hear you say it!