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It is terryfing to hear that Ukraine has fallen and is now ruled by the Nazis.

We cannot allow such a thing to happen again in Europe.

Time to take the arms and liberate the country and our kin.

We have WAR.

To the battle!

Dear ANOMOS... peace to you... and I would LIKE to understand, so can you help explain this article, versus your concern that Nazis have taken over the Ukraine?

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-draws-oba ... 59684.html

Per the article, the former leader of the Ukraine, was an Putin ally... and so Putin has put troops at the Russian/Ukraine border. This has caused some concern in Washington. But other articles state that the former leader is on the run, sought for the mass murder of more than 80 civilians and police. Also, my understanding from an article by a Stanford professor who's an expert on Russia/Soviet Union and says Putin doesn't want to reestablish the Soviet Union, but rebuild Russia.

In light of some of this information, I have questions, if I may, because I am unclear at this point and maybe you can help:

- Did Nazis oust the former leader?

- Is he, in fact, responsible for the murder of civilians?

- Were those civilians insurgents or valid protesters (and, yeah, I saw the "presidential palace"!)

- If he was responsible, and the Nazis did oust him... isn't that a good thing? If not, why not?

- I thought Russia and the Nazis were sworn enemies? Could THAT be why Putin's posted troops?

- If the U.S. is anti-Russian/Putin here (and right now, the U.S. Admin says it's staying out of it), and so support the new Ukraine government, does that make the US Nazi-sympathetic?

- If so, isn't Nazi-ism bad... and so shouldn't the US support Putin? Not saying "we" should; just askin'...


I am not very savvy on politics, dear one, global or otherwise. My interest in not necessarily in the politics of these things but in the actual occurrences themselves... and their bases. You might be able to help me understand by answering my questions, if you can/will? Thank you, in advance!

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

This photo explains it all:


People revolted to get rid of the Russian puppet, not to become a Nazi regime. Nazis were already military organized and seized the opportunity to bring their dictatorship.

Still keep in mind that a big portion of the population is Russian. So the fear is that the country is going to be split and lot of blood will be shed. Putin is worried about the Russian population and 100% will intervene if they are threatened. And not only about them See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet. Hundreds of tanks and over 90 airplanes are ready to aid the over 100000 Russian soldiers already on the borders.

Do you think US prime concern is that the new government is a Nazi one or that they managed to overthrow the Russian puppet? Now their agents will be roaming all Ukraine.

Thanks for the pic, and while it is SOMEWHAT telling, I'm still confused, dear ANOMOS (mornin' and peace to you!): if Nazis DID take over, but removed RUSSIA'S puppet leader... why would the US "warn" RUSSIA... NOT to intervene? Is having Russia in bed with Ukraine leadership WORSE than Nazism?? So Putin wants to reunite "Russia" (but NOT the Soviet Union). Wouldn't a US President/Congress want and try to do the SAME thing, had the UNITED states fallen (to several independent governments)? Isnt that what OUR civil war was all about and aren't there those here NOW who want state sovereignty? If they were to succeed and fragment the Union, wouldn't SOME future President not only desire a REUNION, but run on such a platform and, if elected, SEEK it? Would not "Washington" have troops stationed at, say, the Maryland border... and if NAZIS took over Maryland... INTERVENE (or attempt to)? Wouldn't MARYLAND call for such an intervention?

OR... are you saying (some in) the US (leadership) believe "BETTER to have NAZIS... than a reunited Russia!"?

Both seem to be considered "bad" but is "the US" saying Nazism is the LESSER of the two "evils"?

Or... does "the US" not know/believe Nazis HAVE taken over... or not CARE?

So maybe you can clarify? I would really appreciate it as I'm still a bit confused... but quite interested.

Peace!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

No need to clarify, you already understood the point:

Divide and conquer!

Ahhhhh... I see (peace, dear one!). Yeah, unfortunately, after watching CNN today, I can't say I disagree. Well, "Russia" has some significance for me. Just not sure exactly WHAT significance, but I'm thinking now that what we know as "Russia," now... won't be that at a future time.

Thank you!

Peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Putin has already dispatched the Night Wolves to Ukraine (Fanatic Orthodox Russian Nationalist biker gang)
Photo: their 'leader'.

Okay, so you DON'T want Nazis running things in Ukraine... but you also don't want RUSSIA to oust the Nazis, dear ANOMOS (peace, luv!)? Because the Nazis are the "lesser" of the "two evils" (although, not sure I can see that, given THEIR history... and that Russia was quite instrumental in bringing down the 20th century Nazi proliferation, but... well, okay)?

May I ask, who should oust the Nazis... and why? Why NOT Russia? I mean, are they not showing demonstrations that suggest the people of Crimea AND Ukraine are CALLING for Russian intervention? And hasn't the guy who's slated to take the place of the ousted former leader of the Ukraine the one who called for Russian to help IN the Ukraine (at least, that was the report on CNN and ABC's "This Week", yesterday - the latter of which was quite interesting, especially when the abruptly cut the part of the former British Ambassador TO Russia, who was JUST about to "share" why Russia doesn't/can't trust the west, and particularly the US/UK*...).

Please note, I am NOT saying it SHOULD be Russia. Again, I'm just trying to understand why it SHOULDN'T... and who SHOULD.

Thank you and peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

*After commenting on conduct by the "US, UK, and Europe" that he and "Moscow saw" in the region in 2004, the former UK Ambassador said "Moscow saw 'first-hand, the 'dark-hand' of..." and then his comments were abruptly cut to accommodate a briefing by an undersecretary of the UN. Now, I can understand that what the UN undersecretary had to say may have been important (curiously, there was only 4 people in the briefing room... and only ONE asked A question...), but I kept waiting to see if they'd go back and led the former Ambassador continue his comments. They didn't, of course. So it seems that the TRUTH... was "saved"... by the start of a UN briefing. It was weird to watch, and VERY curious.

This is an interesting article. I don't really have any comments on it, I just found it. I went looking for nazis in the Ukraine, because all this time, I have been thinking that you didn't really mean nazis. I am sorry; that is how ignorant I am about certain parts of the world. Anyway here is the article:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-is ... ts/5371725

Peace,
tammy

Wait, dear tec (peace to you, luv!). The Neo-Nazis leading... ISRAELIS??!! But not, dare I say it... JEWISH Israelis??!!

No, no, wait... I MUST have read that wrong. Lemme see:



So, a Neo-Nazi is now commander of a JEWISH Israeli militia? Well, now. That IS something. Sheds a WHOLE new light things!

THANK you, dear, dear tec! NOW I understand why I saw one of the (four) "winds" go "in the direction of 'Russia'"!! Where it went... and WHY. I wasn't sure it was "Russia" (I didn't hear that it specifically WAS Russia, but it certainly went in that direction. Now I know: it wasn't the "Russia" that is NOW; I am now made to think, however, that at the time, it WILL be. By that time, Ukraine may well BE (a part of and thus) Russia... once again!

Holy-moly.

Peace (on earth and) as Christ gives it!

A slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Glad the article helped. I thought of the four winds that you saw, and the one that went 'north' also, reading this... and now a glimpse of 'why'.


Peace, as our Lord gives peace,
Your servant and sister and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy

Ukraine has gone nuts. I hate Russia the same as the Nazis of Ukraine (maybe a bit less) because it is almost a dictatorship. People suffer there for their beliefs (not only religious and not only JWs). Actually I hate all governments on earth because not a single one is a democracy. Russia will never let Crimea get lost. Do you understand the strategic location of Crimea? The Greek empire of Byzantium always made sure that it controlled Crimea.

I mean, well, I barely understand the strategic location of Long Beach, dear ANOMOS, so... I have to say, no, I don't (understand). Well, not really. I mean, I'm sure some men somewhere believe it strategically important... but I'm all the way over here in Northern Cali, so...

But I guess they COULD be considered outside my BACK door (versus the front)... which does make them closer, yes...

But I'm still not sure I care, either way! LOLOLOL! J/K - You kinda sort asked for it, though... LOLOL!

On a serious note, though, I'm not sure if it will be Crimea... or Ukraine... or some other "strategic location" over there (whether we're looking from the front OR back)... but I AM sure that there's absolutely nothing any of US can do about what's gonna occur there in the future. 'Cept maybe keep listenin'...

Peace (in the Middle Eas... uh, Eastern Euro... ummm... wunna 'dem easts!)...

A slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Is that yellow arm band the new swastika?

It is a variation of it. There are a lot of it. Actually the swastika is a sacred symbol of the past including ancient Greece. Interestingly the most ancient finding with a swastika coems from Ukraine!!! and is dated 10000 BCE!
Roman floor in Spain:
Ancient Israel!:

Ghana:

Ethiopian Church:

And it is in common use even today!
It decorates plenty of Greek buildings including the parliament.
Singapore:

Hitler simply borrowed it. But of course those monsters use it not because it is a sacred symbol but because it is a Nazi symbol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolism
compare with Greek Nazi's party flag:

and Cover of their first issue of Chrysi Avgi magazine

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USA is doing a lot . Already 2 air carriers are docked a few kilometers from my house.
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Proletarian Internationalists against Capital:

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AFA Stockholm: Solidarity action for the antifascists in Ukraine

http://motkraft.net/2014/03/02/afa-stockholm-solidarity-action-for-the-antifascists-in-ukraine/
italics added.