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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:42 pm 
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Also, I have a question. Is it written somewhere that God turned Lots wife into a pillar of salt? Because the account itself reads that she became a pillar of salt. Did it just become assumed then, that God turned her into that. (I mean, obviously, that became an assumption because it is certainly not the truth... but I was just wondering if it was written somewhere, so that the wts followed that assumption... or if the wts are the ones who made the assumption)


That I can recall, I never heard or believed that God turned her into a pillar of salt. Not as a child or even as an adult. I remember hearing about the story, and thinking that maybe it was just some effect of being near the destruction of the city. So... just a curiosity for me, that is all. Because it would then be the same assumption, and lie, that people have made in saying (as you also said, Shelby) that God killed Adam and Eve, rather than the truth, that He warned them of a consequence to an action.




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I did what I ought to have, dear, dear Tams (peace, luv!). It wasn't mine so the praise and thanks go to the One who shared it with ME! And... to the Father - therefore:

Praise JAH... you people! Let every living, BREATHING thing... let it praise JAH!

There! Glory given where due, for BOTH of us, my dear sister! LOLOL!

Peace to you!

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MANY believe and teach that, dear Tams (peace!), including Judaism and so the WTBTS. Try here to see what I mean:

https://www.google.com/search?q=god+tur ... ent=safari


And I would do so as kindly, lovingly, firmly, committedly... and prayerfully... all the while listening to Christ and asking him to put HIS words in my heart and on my lips dear, dear LQ (peace to you, as well!). In saying that, I will keep you in MY prayers, too, as I am SURE others here will as well. In that light, may the undeserved kindness and mercy of our God and Father, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... and the love, peace, strength, and COURAGE of His Son and Christ, our dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... be granted you... and may His spirit be in you... and may His blessing be upon you... you and your ENTIRE household... through the time immediately ahead... and to time indefinite... if you truly wish it!

Peace to you both!

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LOL.... it is so funny that your link took me exactly where I went right after I asked the question. The site I looked at was there and highlighted at the top of the list ; )

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Leaving,

My prayers are with you as well my brother, that Jah and his son, our Lord and savior Jaheshua give you the needed strength, faith and courage at this time. May you be comforted by them and may their peace be upon you and your household.

With love and peace to you this day,
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:39 pm 
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May God grant you endurance, LQ.

Thanks for the real story on Lot's wife, Shelby; I've always wondered about that.


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I, too, will keep you in my prayers, Leaving. You and your wife, and your loved ones.


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LQ,

You've got my respect as a grown man taking his strength in Hand and walking the hell out of that lethal ideological mindwarp called the jw religion.

^^^^bravo^^^^

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Brand that shark with WTBTS and chuck it back into the sea. LET ME AT IT!!! LOLOLOL.

You will Be Fine sir. Take good care of your SELF. As absolutely, no one else Will.

xoxoxoxox with all sincerity,

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Dear LQ,

That is not true that no one will care for you but YOU yourself!


Jah knows that although we chose ourselves to remain inside as slaves under man for a time...we were sheep that trusted them and they took advantage and abused us. They never truly cared about us as we did not belong to them and they have proven themselves to be sheep in wolves clothing.

But our father and his son truly do care for us and we are reminded of his promise in Ezekiel when we leave the WTBS and follow, obey and listen to the fine shepherd our lord Jaheshua.


Ezekiel
34 The word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel. Prophesy, and say to the shepherds, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel,+ who have been feeding themselves! Is it not the flock that the shepherds should feed?+ 3 You eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with the wool, and you slaughter the fattest animal,+ but you do not feed the flock.+ 4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bandaged the injured or brought back the strays or looked for the lost;+ rather, you have ruled them with harshness and tyranny.+ 5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd;+ they were scattered and became food for every wild beast of the field. 6 My sheep were straying on all the mountains and on every high hill; my sheep were scattered over all the surface of the earth, with no one searching for them or seeking to find them.
7 “‘“Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah: 8 ‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “because my sheep have become prey, food for every wild beast of the field, for there was no shepherd, and my shepherds did not search for my sheep; rather, they kept feeding themselves and did not feed my sheep,”’ 9 therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah. 10 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I am against the shepherds, and I will demand an accounting of them for my sheep,* and I will dismiss them from feeding* my sheep,+ and the shepherds will no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouth, and they will no longer be food for them.’”
11 “‘For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Here I am, and I myself will search for my sheep, and I will care for them.+ 12 I will care for my sheep like a shepherd who has found his scattered sheep and is feeding them.+ I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered in the day of clouds and thick gloom.+ 13 I will bring them out from the peoples and collect them together from the lands and bring them into their land and feed them on the mountains of Israel,+ by the streams and by all the dwelling places of the land. 14 In a good pasture I will feed them, and the land where they graze will be on Israel’s high mountains.+ They will lie down there in a good grazing land,+ and they will feed on choice pastures on the mountains of Israel.”
15 “‘“I myself will feed my sheep,+ and I myself will make them lie down,”+ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 16The lost one I will search for,+ the stray I will bring back, the injured I will bandage, and the weak I will strengthen; but the fat one and the strong one I will annihilate. I will feed that one with judgment.”


This promise is to you LQ as it has been to me and my household. He has never abandoned us. His promises are true and he never lies!!!!!!

May his peace be upon you and your household, and may you COME and feed from this water of life which is Holy Spirit dispensed from our Lord the chosen one of Jah FREE!!!

Love your sister in Christ justmom


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:59 pm 
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Amen, to that.


My Lord has taken care of me also; never lied to me and never let me down. (taking care doesn't refer to 'things' like houses, promotions, etc, etc. Nor does that mean we who belong to Him will not have suffering; on the contrary. You know His promises.)

But He has not abandoned us, and He IS with us.


Peace to you,
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:33 pm 
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Thank you, thank you, THANK you... dear, dear 'Mom (the greatest of love and peace to YOU, dear sister!). I SO wanted to respond almost exactly as you did but I held off because I didn't want our dear Skally (peace to you, as well, luv!) to think I was just taking issue with HER and so being arbitrarily contentious!

So THANK you for sharing what you have with dear LQ (and peace to YOU, dear one!). THANK you!

Dear LQ... peace to you, dear, dear brother, and ALWAYS remember: although we MIGHT be thrown down, we will NEVER be left entirely! JAH is not like man, but He keeps His promises. And, through His Son we are told "HAPPY are you when you are persecuted FOR MY NAME'S SAKE!" If you leave the WTBTS simply because you're sick of them... sick of religion... and, as a result, have grown "sick" of God... then you may be on your own, yes. If you leave, though, because you are FOLLOWING THE LAMB... then HIS promise is TRUE:

"I am WITH you... ALL the days... until the end of the era."

He is with us, when we FOLLOW him:

"The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice." John 10:4

And, unlike man... HE doesn't abandon HIS yoke (with you); we... must leave HIM.

I hope this helps!

Again, peace to you, all!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar


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A wonderful piece of scripture JM, thank you for sharing it. I have been led to it at so many dark times and it has proved true for me as well.

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Ezekiel
34 : The word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel. Prophesy, and say to the shepherds, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel,+ who have been feeding themselves! Is it not the flock that the shepherds should feed?+ 3 You eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with the wool, and you slaughter the fattest animal,+ but you do not feed the flock.+ 4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bandaged the injured or brought back the strays or looked for the lost;+ rather, you have ruled them with harshness and tyranny.+ 5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd;+ they were scattered and became food for every wild beast of the field. 6 My sheep were straying on all the mountains and on every high hill; my sheep were scattered over all the surface of the earth, with no one searching for them or seeking to find them.
7 “‘“Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah: 8 ‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “because my sheep have become prey, food for every wild beast of the field, for there was no shepherd, and my shepherds did not search for my sheep; rather, they kept feeding themselves and did not feed my sheep,”’ 9 therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah. 10 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I am against the shepherds, and I will demand an accounting of them for my sheep,* and I will dismiss them from feeding* my sheep,+ and the shepherds will no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouth, and they will no longer be food for them.’”
11 “‘For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Here I am, and I myself will search for my sheep, and I will care for them.+ 12 I will care for my sheep like a shepherd who has found his scattered sheep and is feeding them.+ I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered in the day of clouds and thick gloom.+ 13 I will bring them out from the peoples and collect them together from the lands and bring them into their land and feed them on the mountains of Israel,+ by the streams and by all the dwelling places of the land. 14 In a good pasture I will feed them, and the land where they graze will be on Israel’s high mountains.+ They will lie down there in a good grazing land,+ and they will feed on choice pastures on the mountains of Israel.”
15 “‘“I myself will feed my sheep,+ and I myself will make them lie down,”+ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 16 “The lost one I will search for,+ the stray I will bring back, the injured I will bandage, and the weak I will strengthen; but the fat one and the strong one I will annihilate. I will feed that one with judgment.”



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:13 pm 
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oh, good grief you two. lololol

i'm sure lq follows what my message to him is saying. stop interpreting MY words.

care to join me and shelby saturday night women? all of our Voices. Will. Be. Heard.

OUTLAW....DO YOU LIKE KUNG PAO CHICKEN, or just kfc? ::)) ::))

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I didn't want our dear Skally (peace to you, as well, luv!) to think I was just taking issue with HER and so being arbitrarily contentious!


No worries, we can clear this up Saturday night too. Many things shall Be, cleared up. I'm putting a list of lil' topics I want to bring up. I'll make dure this one is covered though, first.

Fun times! I can hardly wait. So much better with Voices.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:26 pm 
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LQ,

I'd like to invite you to listen in, at least, to me and shelby saturday night on 6screens...if you are available and interested.

I'd like to explain, in my Voice, what I am conveying, even if you understand, the audience needs to be helped in this regard.

It is easy. Just call in, push a button and just Listen to my Voice. And Hers.

Hope your day is moving along as the process begins.

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