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When I recently stated this, I had no idea that:

As I was typing that reply out earlier in another thread, I heard a loud, steel-like thud in my backyard/carport area. I go to see what it is and I look up and see a cute orange/vanilla tabby on the roof staring right down at me.

Here is the TZ:

I'm taking my orange/ vanilla tabby who is very old now and has health and ortho issues, to be assesed and perhaps, put down. I've struggled with this option for a while now and now know that it is simply time. It's been a great 18 years with her.

As I was in this earlier engagement in the other thread, speaking of this TZ...what I say occured above has absolutely got my SELF in a very interesting State of Being at this point.

I mean,I can TRY to figure out the cosmic rays that are at work here. Yet, it is pretty apparent wtf just happened.

I feel I was engaged with the Answer. That is all that counts, in my TZ. I cannot possibly ever be in anyone elses TZ. Ever. Not in the real world or the Vworld. Especially not the Vworld. Our zones exist only for our SELF. But what do I really know? Nothing.

So, just as I typed out in the other thread "who knows....what will happen NEXT in the TZ"? A truly twilight zone moment OCCURED.

What a fabulous trip THAT was!

~skally~

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I meant to mention that when I saw this cat staring down at me, I thought: I JUST WALKED OVER MY CAT, WHO IS LAYING ON THE CARPET BEHIND MY CHAIR, TO COME OUT HERE! It can't be her. So I actually came back in to see if it was my cat and if I may haev been having a 'break' of some sort or if the TZ was about to get real funky.

But there she was, laying where I walked over her. Went back out to see the cat and it was gone. Looked around and didn't see it. [it's most likely new neighbors...we've had a few over last two months]

So yea, the funk is so very rubber, right about now!

~skally~

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Er, um tec, did you see this Absolute proof of a TZ, yet?:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... I-Wonder-2

I was just reading that forum and saw this poster make these two threads where you are both now 'engaged'. The first thread, I didn't really pay much attention to. Yet the second BLEW MY MIND! (above link)

Now if THAT is not what I mean by an Absolute TZ, I am not sure what will convince.

I am truly at an Awe Moment here. And it is pretty darn coolio!!

~skally~

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I'm not sure how it qualifies as a TZ... but yes, I have seen the thread.

I thought your cat story here was pretty cool though, lol.


Peace,
tammy

Hi,

Well, what I am referring to is the poster actually said he too was in a twilight zone type thingy or he just said the TZ words and....oh well, anyway, when I saw what was being textually written, and that it was just as I was speaking of yesterday....I wanted to share it under my thread entitled: WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT....happened in that thread above. Get it now?

Still haven't seen that cat 'round today.

~skally~

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Well...

I read the JWN thread (peace to you, all!)... although I no longer find any joy in going to that site... and I have to give "kudos" to dear tec (peace to you and your household, my sister!)... and SINCERE compassion... to those who, because of being SO harmed by the WTBTS (do you not yet realize their PURPOSE: the PROPOGANDA... which is the primary REASON you NO LONGER have faith in God/Christ... which was the "plan" [of the Adversary] from the beginning?!"... can't "receive" what we are TRYING to share with you??

So many... SO many... would STILL have their faith in Christ... had they NOT been so BLATANTLY... MISled... by the WTBTS!!!! Do you (those who have LOST their faith because of that HARLOT)... NOT "see" that???

If folks could ONLY let go of their... "angst"... against GOD... which have resulted due to WTBTS LIES!!! We were ALL told we could... and so wanted to... KNOW God... and were told (rightfully so), that we could only DO so... THROUGH Christ. And that... HARLOT... stepped in... COMMANDEERED lives... and NOW... for SO many... no more faith in that truth!

If YOU are among such, I BEG you: please... DON'T DO THIS! You KNOW better! You KNOW there is MORE! MORE than religion... and more... than science! You KNOW this... which is why you KEEP SEEKING!

I wish they were ALL cast into the sea, her daughters!! But... their "god"... has been given his time. AND... his tactics! Including to "transform" HIMSELF... "into an angel of light"!! ALLOW yourselves to just CONSIDER, then... that the REASON this ("faith") is SO important to you... that you KEEP trying to "figure" things out... is for a REASON: that there IS "something"... or rather, someONE... WHO... is calling to YOU!

I get that you don't want to be fooled again! Who does??!! NO ONE... in his/her RIGHT mind! Right??!!

But... Christ is REA. dear one(s). He is! And... he is ALIVE! We WISH we could, of our own selves, MAKE you see... and receive this TRUTH! But... we can't. We admit it: we cannot. Because... it falls upon YOU... and whether, in SPITE of the WTBTS... and other religious charades... YOU... STILL... HAVE... FAITH!

No one wants to be fooled, dear ones... and certainly not TWICE. NO ONE. Not even we, who are of his Body. But please... just CONSIDER... that the very REASON you were PART of the WTBTS... is to lead to THIS "end" - NO MORE FAITH... in the MOST Holy One of Israel... whose name IS "JAH... of Armies"... OR in His Son and CHOSEN ONE, JAHESHUAH, the "Chosen One of JAH" (MischaJah). Just... CONSIDER it!

The very PURPOSE of the WTBTS is to serves as a (false) LIGHT... to MISLEAD... IF possible... EVEN the chosen ones!! You may very well be a CHOSEN ONE... yet, THEY say... no.

WHO WILL YOU LISTEN TO??!!! The One who has TOLD you... "You belong to ME, child! Do NOT listen to what MAN says to you!"... or to those of man... who will go to all extremities... to tell you DIFFERENT??

Please, all, forgive my ZEAL here but my heart is BROKEN! That... HARLOT!!! Look at what she has DONE!! Look at who... how MANY... whose FAITH... SHE... has shipwrecked!!

Dear Skally, peace to YOU. truly, and please... consider... WHY... you are UNABLE to move on from us! You are an intelligent, adult, rational individual. Yet, for some reason... you must still come here. STILL! WHY?? Because you need to take issue with what is shared here? C'mon... there are websites EVERYWHERE where you and participants are not in agreement. No, that isn't the reason, dear one.

You come here because... regardless of your OWN "reasoning," "rationality"... and (current) beliefs... you KNOW... we are NOT lying to you! [i]You KNOW[/i]... that while what we share SEEMS from the TZ... it really isn't. You KNOW this... in your deepest heart of hearts. It doesn't reconcile with... "science"... and what THIS world presents... but you KNOW... WE... are NOT lying to you.

And if you could just move past YOUR... anger/issues... WITH the Most Holy One of Israel... or God, if you relate to that... which issues only exist because of the LIES you've been told... and accepted as truth... from those who CLAIM to know... but you NOW realize do NOT... ALLOW yourself to move past them... TAKE that "leap of faith"... just ONCE more... you would know, hear, and see... what we do!

I get it that taking that "leap"... OMG... how FRIGHTENING! "What if I'm wrong... AGAIN!??" I get it. But that is what faith is ABOUT: the ASSURED expectation of the thing HOPED for (including (1) knowing the TRUTH; (2) by mean of knowing the Truth (Christ); so that you (3)... KNOW GOD)!!

As Christ said, "Faith... is NOT the possession of all (men)." Each of us, however, has opportunity to PROVE that we are NOT among those who LACK it!

Just... think about it. NOT for me... but for YOUR [peace of mind]! It's really not that hard, dear one. Truly. It isn't. It's just not what THIS world teaches or tells us about. Even those who claim to be "christians." They are not.

I hope this helps... and ask forgiveness from all... for my zeal here. But reading the poster's comments... I dunno. I SO wish ALL would hear, see... and come to know... what I have had the privilege of hearing, seeing, and coming to know. Truly. So much so... that sometimes I almost can't bear it.

It really is NOT rocket science... or even so great a mystery, dear ones: see the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... see the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... THROUGH that One. It really is THAT simple.

Okay, gotta go check on dinner...

Peace... to you ALL!

Your servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel... AND those who go with... and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar, who apologizes for the zeal... but NOT for the holy spirit that is ACTIVE in her, just now - sorry, no apologies, there!

[[Tec, thank you for your industrial argumentation with Braincleaned. I was off since, and i see you are meeting some commonground all together. i wish to put it simple on :"how you know that you know": that is by the time we can't ask more questions. otherwise we are still in a quest.and sometimes the answer to the our last question is we can't know [humility]. By that time if we see it fitting our interests we Just believe. we don't know that God exists, we believe he exists. and belief in God is a stonger degree of knowledge, I wish braincleaned can have it since he can't get answers to his last questions about things, numerous things. Braincleaned, you are one step ahead to believing!.]]

Cue the TZ jingle please.

The poster is on the same WAVElength as I Am. Truly an evidential TZ moment.
~skally~

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

sometimes the answer to the our last question is we can't know [humility].

Sometimes, this is merely the TRUTH, dear Skalls (peace to you!): we don't know. Not necessarily a demonstration of humility, so much as a demonstration of HONESTY... if it IS honest (and we DON'T know). On the other hand, admitting that we DO know... or perhaps know someone who knows... isn't necessarily a demonstration of a LACK of humility... but might also be a demonstration of HONESTY.

It seems that the latter is considered to be "lacking" humility... NOT when they speak the truth... but when such proof doesn't comport with those who DISAGREE with it. For instance, YOU might know something yet say you don't ("I don't know") because, let's say, you're "afraid" of what others might think of you for saying WHAT you know. On the other hand, you might NOT know; however, if I think you DO know... I could... mmmmmm... insinuate... that YOU lack humility... because I think you DO know but won't "condescend" to say so. Because you're not "humbling" yourself... to MY will.

But it doesn't matter, really, does it... what I THINK I "know" about you... and what YOU know... or don't know? So long as you are being true to yourself... and what you DO or don't know... then what I think... and perhaps want others to think ABOUT you... is... what? Of no matter at all... unless you are CONCERNED about what others think of you.

Yes?

Saying one knows something... when one does not... is a lie. Saying one does NOT know (something)... but that they know one who DOES... is... well, no different than, say, lay folk who claim to "know" all manner of things related to... let's say "science," but really don't, in and of THEMSELVES... ACTUALLY know... but also have to rely on others who DO know (better). Like scientists and what THEY say.

I mean, I COULD say that radiation "helps" fight cancer cells. The truth is... I don't know. Some SAY it does... but some, who've experienced it, might say it doesn't. Since I don't know in and of myself, I have to condescend... and defer to those who say they DO know. Yes?

Same thing with Christ, luv. Since I don't know (what will happen next)... I must defer to someone who does.

Hopefully, THIS truth won't "blow"... or even go over... your mind. It's really very simple, in spite of my many words... so it shouldn't.

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar, who doesn't quite understand why, just become SOME don't know... the assumption MUST be that NO ONE knows. Even science doesn't make that particular claim...

Interesting...

Why does WTBS keep printing magazine after magazine after magazine, and book after book after book? Why do they have talks week after week after week ad nauseum? Why? Because it's a money-making publishing company? Perhaps, but I don't think that's the real impetus behind it. It's because they do truly know God. If they did, why would they need to do all this?

Heb 8:10,11: This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.

who doesn't quite understand why, just become SOME don't know... the assumption MUST be that NO ONE knows. Even science doesn't make that particular claim...


Because despite the whole 'personal experiences are subjective and can't be trusted' spiel... those same people making that statement won't believe something without them. (unless it is something that they WANT to believe)

Irony. (or hypocrisy, actually)


Peace,
tammy

You got it, dear tec... and not sure I understand what you're saying, dear LQ (peace to you, both!):

Are you saying the DO know God, else why would they need to publish so many mags, etc., or that they DON'T know Him, else why? Can you clarify, please?

Thanks much and, again, peace to you, both!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Whoops! My mistype.



This should have been:
It's because they don't truly know God. If they did, why would they need to do all this?

You have it right, LQ.

In fact, one could posit that those who, like the WT, make the most noise about God merely reveal their lack of knowledge of Him.

Indeed, dear Char (peace to you!). Which is why we should be wary of most of "christendom"... and one "daughter" in particular! Goodness, not only are they loud... but all OVER the place (and all over the world... and all over TV - some even have their own TV/radio stations!)... and all over the news... and all over the internet... including YouTube... and in all the libraries... and so all the bookstores... even Amazon... with so MANY books... by and/or about them... and... and...). But wait... I don't get you mean "noisy" as with regard to the noise these make IN and all over THE WORLD... big and noisy though they may be (wink!).

On the other hand, a (VERY) small (in the entire scheme of things)... possibly even singular... voice... or perhaps that of just two... or three... seems more like sort of thing that WOULD occur... doesn't it... seeing as how that's EXACTLY how it has occurred... when AUTHENTIC, mind you... on several occasions all throughout man's history? That is, until all those (very) "noisy" folks showed up. Yes? (Wink, wink!).

Again, peace to you, dear sister in Christ...

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar, who finds your comment quite curious, although perhaps the (apparently, still present) underlying sentiment driving it is even curiouser... wink, wink...

Shelby, I don't understand your post above. At first I thought we were in agreement, but I think you are meaning something else, and I simply don't understand it.

In Britain, we have a saying that something is a "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" kind of thing, and since Monty Python travelled worldwide I think you might understand that phrase. But it helps if one knows what the nudging and winking are all about, and I simply don't!