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I really like this site and thought I would link to it.

http://www.behindthename.com/name/israel

It shows the name of God in many of prophets' names. Either El (God)... or Jah (the name of God)

Elijah actually has both. EL-i-JAH (my God is Jahveh)

IsraEL - contends with God.


For those who might need to see a bit about how those who come in the name of God, often literally come in the name of God, lol.

Like JAHeshua... as the name of our Lord.


Just something to help some hear, or give them the faith to ask AND then to hear, if they have not done so already.


Peace to you!

tammy

So get one more:
Greece is in Greek called (H)Ellas
It is from El + Las
Las = Lad* > land# and also means stone.
#See how modern Greeks much like the English form 'land' say Ellad*a instead of Ellas.
*d pronounced like th in the word this

So Greece is the Land of God!

Let me add some more for similar names:
Alps, Albania, Allah, Albion...
Do not confuse above Al (=El) with the article Al.

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and words too:

ialemistria
This is the Greek word for a woman who mourns the dead of the battle.
It is from:
Yah-Alem
As the mourning woman was praying to Yahweh for comfort. The Arabs have got it correct with the definition of Alem: "one who knows everything."

So do you still believe that Only Israel was God chosen nation and land of decoration. That only Israel armies were fighting the battles of Yahweh? If you still do so, here is one more:

Iah-i. This is the Greek word for the battle cry. Ancient Greeks repeatedly shouted Yah!, Yah! and entered the battle!

Thank you for this Tammy.

Yes, many names have the substance of Jah.

Although this is not name related, the world in general acknowledges it, uses it constantly and yet still don't see that gods name is Jah.

HalleluJAH!

Praise Jah!

Love Justmom

Those are interesting, Anomos.

I don't think every word that has an el or a jah, or something close means this... as different languages have different spellings/letters. Names at least in their original form retain the meaning that they were as given. (if they were given for their meaning)



He IS the Most Holy One of Israel.

But I have no doubt that other nations (including Israel) fought battles in the name of God (Jah), or called upon His name in battle... this does not mean that He sanctioned them or those battles, even from Israel.


Peace to you!

tammy

Anomos,

The nation of Israel is the ONLY nation with whom Jah made a covenant. He has not done that with any other nation. Jah specifically states this on several occasions. Jah states that he has left the other nations to go their own way as they saw fit. However, he is good to them nonetheless. Jah has made promises to other peoples for their good and has carried out those promises; however, as far as making a covenant—no. Jah covenanted ONLY with the nation of Israel. Jah specifically states that the nation of Israel are a “chosen nation, a special people, TAKEN OUT OF all of the other nations, a people for his special possession and ownership.” As a nation, however, they have since been rejected. Now he is calling out a spiritual nation.

--Armand

Yes, Armand!

(Though they are the ones who rejected Christ... and so now they cannot see Him. Like Shelby wrote on another thread about how Pharoah rejected Moses. Hmm. I never saw that connection before, but recently I was thinking about how we are called out of 'her'... and was shown how that is like the exodus out of Egypt.)


Peace,
tammy

YUP!!!!

Tammy exactly that!

Our lord called us to " Get out of her" and to follow his voice and allow him to lead us out in this wilderness and be led by Holy Spirit ( like the cloud and pillar of fire) until we reach our promised land, which is the kingdom.
When it came to the WTBS for me personally they acted like a Pharoah when we asked to be able to leave them ( the religion of our birth) and go worship our TRUE father and His son, and to be able to go out from among them in peace and allow our true, fine shephard to lead us in worshipping by spirit and faith....

They were not going to have it. We could leave but not without punishment. They did not know of nor hear of this voice that we talked about and felt they were the truth that was still dispensing " food to us at the proper time" so held over us " Apostacy" and " Disfellowshipping" I guess to keep us from leaving.

But we said, we must leave. Obey Jah over man. That they could do whatever they felt they needed to do, but we were stil leaving. Our Lord was labeled an apostate and disfellowshipped by his own people.
And a slave is no greater than their master.

So yes, this is exactly why also we have to look at for US. As an example, warning, instruction.

Thanks for this
Love to you Justmom

Ah yes, JM... thank you for showing that even more clearly.

Peace,
tammy

So do you still believe that Only Israel was God chosen nation and land of decoration. That only Israel armies were fighting the battles of Yahweh?

Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, and Isaac were not Israelites, dear ANOMOS (peace to you!). Nor was Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, and others. Nor was Ishmael, Abraham's other son (by Hagar), whom both Abraham AND JAH loved (and JAH constituted a might nation!). But as dear Armand (peace, dear one!) shared, it is only with Israel and Judah, the two entities that make up the entire 12 tribes of Israel... the sons of JACOB, the son of ISAAC (versus the sons of Ishmael, Abraham's son by the slave woman Hagar, OR Abraham's sons by Keturah, his wife AFTER Sarah)... that JAH made a covenant to be a "people for a special possession" with. He reiterated that covenant by replacing the OLD one and its Laws... with a NEW one... and ITS law (of love):

“The days are coming,” declares JaHVeH,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[d] them,”
declares JaHVeH.
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares JaHVeH.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know JaHVeH,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares JaHVeH.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.” Jeremiah 31:31-34

This is a MAJOR thing that many... and particularly "christians"... miss. The covenant is NOT made with all of mankind, but with:

1. Those of Israel... starting with those who BLESS the One who came... comes... and will come AGAIN... in the name of JAH...
2. And those (of the nations) who go WITH such ones...
3. Those who "do GOOD" to such ones...
4. And those of Israel in general, due to the promise made to Abraham.

Those who are NOT among these... will find themselves OUTSIDE of the beloved City, the NEW Jerusalem, which is made up of the PEOPLE of the first four groups.

I hope this helps and, again, peace to you!

Servant TO the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with, and a slave of the King of that nation, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah),

Shellamar

Here's an interesting name/link, dear tec (peace, luv!):

http://www.behindthename.com/name/yahveh

Now, when folks get the TRUTH... that the yodh is a "J", NOT a "Y"... although making the "y" SOUND... and that in this instance, the "vav" represents the "v" sound, NOT the "w" sound (the confusion for which can be seen in Jewish words like "Manischewitz"... where the "w" (waw) is pronounced like the "v" (vav)... because it is the SAME symbol)... then they will not only know the name of the MOST Holy One of Israel... JAH... who breathes ("VeH") into existence armies (of spirits)/whose mouth/breath causes armies (of spirits) to come forth)... but ALSO the name of the SON of that One... he who comes in the NAME of JAH:

"JAH eShua" (JAH Saves/Salvation of JAH... ACCURATELY transliterated as "JOSHUA" in English, NOT "Jesus")... the CHOSEN One (Mischa) of JAH, or "MischaJah" (accurately transliterated as "Messiah"... Mischa-Jah... or Mischy-Jah... in English.

If only folks would let go of the (very) strongly entrenched errors... even LIES... to turn toward the TRUTH. Turn TOWARD Christ... and HIS voice... rather than toward men and their voices. Then they would HEAR him say his name to them... AND that of the Father ("I have made your name KNOWN... to the men YOU GAVE ME...").

If he made it known to the FIRST men of his Body... surely, he has and will make it known to those who come into union with him later. Right? I mean, he DID say that those he would tell those he no longer called slaves, but friends, EVERYTHING. Right? And that the SPIRIT of truth would lead such ones... into ALL truth. Yes? Why would that TRUTH... NOT include his TRUE name... and that of His Father and God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JaHVeH?

He would not include these things. He would absolutely reveal the truth about them... to those who belong to him. The first hour workers... as well as the last hour workers.

But, then, you know this, my dear, dear sister... so perhaps I'm just singing to choir a little bit! LOLOL!

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Yes, I hear you!

I saw that with Messiah also... the first time you wrote out the pronunciation/phonics of MischaJah.

Same with Jahveh!


The back of my bible has a few names spelled out as to their meaning, and when I learned a bit more about Jah, and also EL, then I saw that in so many of the names... and it becomes even logical that it is going to be in the name of the one who came in the name of Jah.

Hard to hear though... this one was for me anyway... I think because of how the wts makes such a big deal of it, and then twists the truth so that people cringe away from the actual truth when they are cringing away from the lie that the wts has connected to the truth.

(did that make sense, lol?)

Makes me worry for them (and others) though I do know to cast that worry onto God.

Peace to you,

tammy

Only Jews God's chosen nation?
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
I see mentioning here both Jews and Greeks, but no other nation like let us say the Romans or the Arabs or the Egyptians. How can I guarantee that God did not make a covenant with other nations too. Most writtings of the ancients Greeks for example are lost and the surviving are copies of very late centuries. The Bible is also from copies of copies. Who can be sure what the original text wrote? Or if the Jews didn't copy from other ancient original texts. If you go back to ancient Greece (and other areas of the Med.), prior to the 12 Olympus god's, you will find out that they had the very same culture. The Jews are late comers to the area much like late comers are the Dorians in Greece.

wikipedia:

So that goes back to more than 1000 years before Adam was created. It is a joke that the Watchtower tells us that the first language spoken was Hebrew. No, but the Jews were illiterate shepherds and so their language did not evolve like in other countries. So it is closer to the 'original' language.

In conclusion, if you like to check for the meanings of names in the Bible do the same for names in other languages too. You will be surprised with your findings.

(Smile) I think you misunderstood me, dear ANOMOS (mornin' and peace to you!). I did not say that. The Jews certainly were NOT God's ONLY chosen nation. Because they are only one (well, two) of 12 such nations. All 12 tribes of Israel make up God's chosen people, dear one.



In Christ, yes. But did not Christ himself say "Salvation STARTS with the Jews?" And "We (speaking of the Jews) know what we worship"? And didn't the Prophet say that the time would come when people would "take hold of the skirt of a man who is a Jew? Why were these things said? Because Isaac, son of Abraham's free wife, Sarah, was the chosen one to bear the seed. Not Ishmael or any of the sons of Keturah.



(Smile, again) First, Paul was speaking metaphorically. There is neither Jew nor Greek in CHRIST... because people of ALL nations will be chosen to BECOME "Israel," the Household of God. That choosing, however, starts with Israel (who some refer to as "the Jews," but that is not ACCURATE)... the "first fruits." Judea and Samaria... the Jews (i.e., Judah and Benjamin, who make up the 2-tribe kingdom of "Judah")... AND the other 10 tribes (who make up the 10-tribe kingdom of "Samaritans").

But secondly, Israel definitely includes Arabs, as many of THEM... ARE of the 10 tribes. Remember, Jerusalem is in PALESTINE. Hence, there are Palestinians... Arabs... who descend from Abraham. Sadly, starting with the return from exile in Babylon, the Jews REJECTED the existence of the other 10 tribes, basically referring to ALL Israelites as "Jews." And so, most today do the same... even though such is inaccurate.

Third, many Egyptians left WITH Israel on the "exodus"... and joined TO Israel, so there are certainly those of Egyptian descent among Israel.

BUT... God turned His attention AWAY from Israel... to the NATIONS... to take out of THEM... a people for His name, yes? Those people, however, START with those OF Israel... Jew and Samaritan... who DID bless the One who came in JAH's name: the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... who most know as the Christ.



Well, if you don't belong to Christ, perhaps you can't. If you DO belong to Christ, however, you can simply ask HIM... and then listen to what HE tells you. Since his mouth ALWAYS speaks truth, however, you will hear him tell you that, again, "salvation starts with the Jews." Why? Where the Jews "special"? No, not really. It starts with the Jews... because it starts... with HIM - he who came AS a Jew. Israel was only "special" because of the covenant made with Abraham, as to Sarah/Isaac. The Jews were only "special" because of the promise made to Judah, and then to David (the Lion of Judah)... that the Seed that would save mankind would come through that line. And he did.

Even so, there is a very pointed statement made by Christ that should exhort us all to mindful of Jews... as well as Israelites... as well as of ALL mankind:

"To the extent you did [did not do] it to the LEAST of these... MY BROTHERS... you did [did not do] it to me."

The Jews (those who truly ARE... because he is not a Jew who is one on the OUTSIDE)... are certainly Christ's brothers, by blood. Even a least one. Same with those of the other 10 tribes - the Palestinian/Arabs (those who truly ARE Israelites, because not all who are CALLED Israel ARE Israel). They, too, are Christ's brothers... in the flesh... by means of human blood. Most important, though, is that Israel was SCATTERED... to the four corners of the earth. And so, we don't KNOW who is Christ's brother... although we can know who is NOT ("by their fruits").

In that light, it would behoove US to do good to ALL others... because it COULD be that, in spite of their "nationality" and culture... Abraham's blood DOES run through their veins. And so long as their is a DROP... that drop still "speaks" and calls out TO God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... that such one is Abraham's seed. And that includes those who profess to be Muslims. Because the progenitor of that belief system was Ishmael, who was the son of Abraham.

And so, as ISAAC's brother (even if only half), he (Ishmael and HIS progeny) are ALSO Christ's brothers, albeit perhaps, again, the "least."

That would ALSO include those of the east... who could potentially be descendants of Keturah's sons, who Abraham sent TO the east... and so, back to where HE came from.

And we can go on from there. For instance, Ethiopians. By means of Menelik I... SOLOMON's son with Bathsheba... there are Ethiopians who are "Judah"... because that was the tribe OF Solomon. And so on and so on. Abraham's blood... through both Isaac, Ishmael... and even the sons of Keturah... has been spread throughout the earth. In essence, then, ANYONE could potentially be a brother of Christ... by means of HUMAN blood.

And so, even if one is not chosen to RULE with Christ, as part of his Body, the NEW Jerusalem, one can still be a SUBJECT of that kingdom... and be granted entry into "her" gates by means of the "good" they did to someone who turns OUT to have been a brother of Christ, even a least one... in body OR in spirit. Matthew 25:1-40; Revelation 21:9-26

And so, while we CAN know who is NOT a brother of Christ in SPIRIT (again, "by their fruits you will know them," meaning those who do NOT belong to him), we DON'T know who is his brother in human BLOOD. And so, it behooves us to do good to ALL... due to the POTENTIAL of such one being a brother (in flesh) of Christ. Which brotherhood, because of being by flesh NOT by spirit, would constitute the one as a "least" one.

We should keep in MIND, though, that such "doing good," is NOT soothing people with flowery words, telling them what they want to hear, to appease their flesh... versus telling them the TRUTH. One truth that can soothe them... is that their sins CAN be forgiven... based on FAITH... in Christ, his resurrection from the dead (which shows death CAN be conquered), his blood (which washes us CLEAN of our sins)... and his flesh (which, as "leaves" from the TREE of Life... can GIVE us life, forever).

But the customary... but empty... words that most WANT to hear? Those can't do that. Sure, they can make someone feel "good"... for a few moments, but ONLY a few moments. And those who need them... never STOP needing them. Because they ARE empty words, words that don't fulfill but for only a moment. The TRUTH that Christ speaks, however, HIS words... give life. And life everlasting. Which is why it behooves us to go to and listen to HIM... and "thirst" for HIS words... than to keep going to men... again... and again... and again... and again... yet come away STILL lacking, STILL feeling unfulfilled... and so STILL needing to hear such empty words... again... and again... and again... and...

It's futility... and vanity... and a striving after the wind!

If, however, such one would only allow themselves to go to and LISTEN to the words of the TRUE Vine, the Root of Jesse, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit... and his Bride... when THEY call to such one, they would also hear those say to them, some of the MOST beautiful words ever spoken to those of mankind:

"Come! Take 'life's water' FREE!"...

Because those are words of TRUE substance. Because drinking from that "water" is what grants life. Becomes "a fountain" IN such one... "bubbling up to IMPART... everlasting life." Something temporary words of soothing can't do. That "water" can, though... because it IS the life... of the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies! His breath, His blood, His semen... His SPIRIT... by means of which those who DRINK of it... can live! NOT just for the temporary "moment" allowed the flesh... but FOREVER! That is the PROMISE of that spirit, that life force!

Question is: does one have faith IN the One who GRANTS it, that "water" - the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA... the CHOSEN One of JAH (MischaJah)?

Because it is those, such ones who "take hold of the skirt of a man who is a Jew" in Body AND Spirit... and drink of the water the flows "from the innermost parts" of HIM (John 7:37-39)... who make UP the TRUE Israel. The NEW Jerusalem.

I hope this helps, dear ANOMOS, truly!

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

You could be right, but I can't agree with you, based on what I have been given and understand, dear one (again, peace to you!). Perhaps the "chronology" of Israel... from Adham forward... is inaccurate? Jeremiah did prophesy the "false stylus" of the secretaries (copyists)... and my Lord did say "Woe to you... scribes!" I think that if folks looked up the origin of the term "Sumer" and "Sumerian"... perhaps beyond Wikipedia (which is usually quite accurate but not always), they might be surprised. Better yet, if they simply went to the One who was present when man was created... and ask HIM...

Also, researching the word "Hebrew" could be helpful. But it certainly could not have been the first language, as the first "Hebrew"... Abraham... who hailed from the East... apparently had not problem communicating with the Egyptians he encountered when first entering the land of Canaan (which land was actually part of the Egyptian empire at the time).

Again, there is One who was there and can answer questions...



Most of what they tell us is a joke, dear one. Actually, most are lies. With very few exception, what they tout as "truth" is anything but.

I hope this helps.

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Seems you have started getting what I revealed. Yes Abraham didn't have any problem to understand the Egyptians and the same would be the case if he travelled to Greece, because they were all of 'Semitic' origin. The confusion of languages at Babel is yet another fairy tale.

Slavation started with the Jews because Jesus was born there. But he spoke to a Samaritan woman and to a Greek woman too. So from this you can get the point that the Greeks were not part of the Nations as the door for the nations opened much later with Peter. Interestingly the Greek woman outsmarted Jesus and he was forced to admit that her faith was great. Which faith? That she was part of Yahweh's chosen people*. Yes Greeks were referred as little dogs and this was somehow dimeaning. But they deserved it as a nation, because many had deveated from the truth and were worshipping the 12 Olympians. Still those little dogs were Yahweh's 'domestics'-not of another household or fold. Jesus there referred to the house of Israel not the house of Yahweh.

* John 12:20-23:
20 Now there were some Greeks among those who went up to worship at the festival. 21 They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, with a request. “Sir,” they said, “we would like to see Jesus.” 22 Philip went to tell Andrew; Andrew and Philip in turn told Jesus. 23 Jesus replied, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.

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But there is no reply. God is either dead or isn't interested to us. If he was he would communicate. All we need is to reply here with a short comment. Is it so difficult to Him?