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Just an interesting video interview with Irans president. Although there is much optimism developing on their part, the Israeli prime minister ( Netanyahu) told the world not to be fooled by this message.

And this is very timely based on some the truths that our Lord has been sharing with us lately.
Just wanted to share this!

Love and peace to all of you today
Justmom


Rouhani's message to the American people
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... r.cnn.html

Interesting, JM... thank you for finding and posting this for us!

Peace,
tammy

Cautious optimism.

We know who rules Iran, that said, there is no gray area that they are NOT in a winning position in terms of any war VS the west.
They know that.

Politicians, you can't trust them unless they know their self-preservation is involved.

How do you mean, dear 'Mom (peace to you, luv!)?

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Ola sis,
Found this article the other day.

Although Irans president says it has no intentions on ever creating nuclear weapons, Israel's prime minister disagrees and says Iran is using this as a distraction in order to buy time in order to achieve their true goal of creating nuclear weapons.

I remember what has been shared as to the " unleashing of the four winds" and possibly things are being set in motion?

Just wondering?

Love and peace to you
Justmom




Binyamin Netanyahu writes off Iran president's nuclear speech as a ploy
Israeli prime minister says the world should not be taken in by Hassan Rouhani's less confrontational approach at the UN
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Joel Greenberg in Jerusalem
theguardian.com, Wednesday 25 September 2013 02.01 EDT

Binyamin Netanyahu: defended walkout. Photograph: Getty Images
The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has dismissed the UN speech of the Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, as a cynical public relations ploy that presented a false picture of Iran’s nuclear programme.

Netanyahu, who is to address the UN general assembly next week, said Rouhani's speech “lacked both any practical proposal to stop Iran's military nuclear programme and any commitment to fulfil UN security council decisions”.

“This is exactly Iran's strategy – to talk and play for time in order to advance its ability to achieve nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu said in a statement released by his office. “The international community must test Iran not by its words but by its actions."

The Israeli delegation walked out of Rouhani's speech, and Israel's minister for strategic and intelligence affairs, Yuval Steinitz, called his rhetoric a "game of deception", Associated Press reported.

"Rouhani came here today in order to cheat the world," Steinitz told reporters after the speech. "And unfortunately many people are willing to be cheated."

Explaining the walkout, Netanyahu said that “as the prime minister of Israel, the state of the Jewish people, I could not allow the Israeli delegation to be part of a cynical public relations ploy by a regime that denies the Holocaust and calls for our destruction".

In an earlier statement on Tuesday, Netanyahu said he appreciated the remarks of the US president, Barack Obama, at the general assembly that "Iran's conciliatory words will have to be matched by action that is transparent and verifiable".
"Israel would welcome a genuine diplomatic solution that truly dismantles Iran's capacity to develop nuclear weapons," Netanyahu said. "But we will not be fooled by half-measures that merely provide a smokescreen for Iran's continual pursuit of nuclear weapons. And the world should not be fooled either."

That's interesting, luv (again, peace, my sister!), given what WAS shared. Which makes your comment a bit confusign to me. Because, well, who gives the order TO unleash those winds? And... WHY?

It sounds like you believe (as Netanyahu and many others believe) that Israel will be in the right and attacked without provocation. And that's understandable coming from them: Israel NEVER realizes THEIR part, until they're cry is VERY loud. But, how can you (if you do - I didn't perceive a question - "wondering" - from you, but understanding. In that light, are you certain the winds are not unleashed upon those they are... in response to a move by ISRAEL? If one has been following the development, Mr. Netanyahu does seem a bit "trigger happy," wanting the world to move against Iran before Iran has actually done anything. It would not be a stretch to say that the winds are a response to a PREEMPTIVE strike... by Israel.

Of course, waiting until Iran DOES do something (if Iran does) could prove detrimental, and so a preemptive strike might be prudent. But what Israel and its allies (and perhaps you?) might be doing is overlooking the history. Which shows that, in the GREATEST devastations to the nation, Israel's enemies were not only ALLOWED to come against it... but often led TO do so... because of THEIR (Israel's) error. And only when that enemy went too far... and completely left off mercy... so that Israel's cry was SO great... did JAH intervene.

According to Israel's OWN historical record, then, she is not immune to being subjected, even punished, by her enemies, even her own brothers... for HER errors and misconduct... often brought by her AGAINST her own brothers. Yes? With JAH stepping in just when it seems the nation just might be wiped out. Yes? He doing so ONLY because as bad as they might be... they still belong to HIM... and so only HE can wipe them completely out. Which He would NEVER do... because of His LOVE for them. Yes?

But that love is often put to the test... with grave results. Yes?

For those who claim to be christian, however, who claim to have faith in Christ and what HE says... and even more for those who hear his voice... what of HIS admonition to Israel:

[color=000FF]"Look! Your house is abandoned to you!"[/color]

Meaning... "Ya'll on your own, now." Meaning... without JAH's protection. Do we believe he was wrong? History seems to say he wasn't, and the not just for decades, but CENTUREIS, indeed, almost two MILLENIA! Since the occupation by Rome, Jerusalem (and thus Israel) has never been the protected paramour she once was. But for how long would she be without JAH's protection, luv? Surely, you remember what our dear Lord is recorded to have said:

"UNTIL you SAY "Blessed is he that comes in the name of JaHVeH."

I might be wrong, of course, but I don't think I can say Israel has said that... yet. True, some have accepted "Jesus" (the Messanic Jews), but the NATION hasn't, and, well, "Jesus" isn't the name of the One they're supposed TO bless. If, however, what has been shared with us comes to pass... would Israel not prove true to her former course... and so what she should have all along... and RECEIVE the king CHOSEN (by her own God and husbandly owner, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies)?

I don't mean to contend, dear one, but I was compelled to bring all of this up because of what WAS shared with us. I didn't perceive a question ("wondering") on your part but an understanding. Which again was... confusing. As it seems to suggest Israel an innocent, to be undeservingly attacked by an enemy. And I am not so sure that is the case.

I hope this helps!

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

I don't mean to contend, dear one, but I was compelled to bring all of this up because of what WAS shared with us. I didn't perceive a question ("wondering") on your part but an understanding. Which again was... confusing. As it seems to suggest Israel an innocent, to be undeservingly attacked by an enemy. And I am not so sure that is the case.

Thank you for all of this once again. I had shared this as to Iran and Israel not wanting anyone to be fooled by them and their motive, but overlooked the fact that Israel's motive is not pure themselves.
And I do know Israel is not the innocent party here that it is Israel who gets " nervous" and makes a first move as you had shared from our Lord.

Thank you for this again! And yes, the articles make it look like Israel is the innocent and Iran is the ONLY guilty party.

Love to you
Justmom

I was just reminded of the whole 'peace, peace' when I watched it... but I do not know exactly where/when/how that applies... and certainly not off of one interview ; ).

I do think he makes a very good point in the interview... you don't displace one people in compensation for the wrongs done to another people, especially when those wrongs were done by an entirely different people. That is just wronging even more people.


Peace,
tammy

Binyamin Netanyahu should shut up his mouth. He and Obama are not less innocent than the Iranian (who is rather tricky and smart though). Hypocrites! Doesn't Israel have nuclear weapons? Doesn't USA have nuclear weapons?

Actually, the U.S. has more than most folks know, dear ANOMOS (peace to you!)... and certainly more capability. WAY more. I came to know this while doing some research for my trip to Ethiopia a few months ago. Then, I came across a "classified" document that blew MY mind! I have no idea how I got into it (and can't find it again), but it was done by an independent contractor hired by the NRC. It started with a very... mmmmmm... interesting and ominous disclaimer (which stated "Disclaimer:")stating that the contract took "no responsibility for the contents" of the report. I thought... huh? What does THAT mean and why would someone start out with that? And then I read the report.

Apparently, the US has approximately 100 tons of PU239 (the byproduct of nuclear reactors, which are built for the purpose of CREATING PU, NOT cheap energy - that's just the "benefit" OF nuclear reaction... excess heat/energy... which can be sold VERY cheap, and so energy bills are very cheap... which PU is used for... you guessed it... nuclear weapons)... at least half of which they need to find a way to store... and/or get rid of... by 2030. Because that's when the containers it's in... no longer work.

But here's the clincher: because the containers are only good UNTIL 2030... they can't bury it... or put it in the sea, etc. Because, well, how will they get to it... in 2030... when the containers fail? So, this contractor was hired to assess the situation and "recommend" the next step. The recommendation? Basically, "Ya'll better do something... find SOME WAY to store this stuff... and QUICK!"

Now, WHY all of that PU? The Cold Way, my friend. Per the report, nuclear reactors were designed and built NOT to create energy... but, again, to develop nuclear weaponry for that "era." Thing is... the US is not the ONLY country to have all of this "excess" PU. "Russia", England... and Israel have quite a bit of it, too. As do a couple/few other countries.

But it gets better. Since they can't bury it or put in the sea... what do you think they've done with it? I will tell you: it is, right now... being transported around the country... in trucks and on trains. Shipped among a circuits of NRC/military installations where it's checked for "leakage", etc., then shipped out again, to the next installation on the circuit. Round...and round. And has been... since the 80's.

My question is, given that it only takes 5-10 kg to make an atom bomb (... what in the WORLD were they thinking when they made over 100 TONS?? Now, maybe I don't know my "tons," so I could be off, but from what I understand there are approx. 901kg in a "short" ton... 1,000 in a "metric" ton... and a little more than that in a "long" ton.

There's some interesting information here:

http://www.livescience.com/5752-hard-nu ... apons.html

and here:

http://www.livescience.com/7685-oldest- ... vered.html

Sadly, there's no way to know who's really telling the truth... when it comes to politics and foreign relations. Countries have warred for... well, since the beginning. First it was with rocks, clubs, arrows, spears, and such. Now...

Maybe some day the entire world will "learn war no more," but I don't think it will happen by man's own devising... but love for and obedience to a higher Being: the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... who will teach love for the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Yes, I do know that some love their fellowman in spite of not knowing either Christ OR JAH... but those aren't the ones mankind needs to be worried about. Because those are not the ones in control of war... or who foment it. And such may not include as many politicians as we might think... in comparison to those who make their FORTUNE... by fomenting war.

Anyway, just a bit of trivia I thought you might find interesting. Again, my "tonnage" could be off (I'm not a physicist or mathemetician) but if not... that's some very interesting "trivia".

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Thanks for info.
Here is some more:
Who is threatening who?
Israel has 80 nuclear warheads, can make 115 to 190 more, report says
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-israel-nuclear-weapons-20130915,0,4117406.story?track=rss

"What about Israel's nuclear weapons?" asks Putin
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/europe/7470-qwhat-about-israels-nuclear-weaponsq-asks-putin
So let us make war against Israel!

Very interesting map... and VERY interesting article about what Israel has and CAN have... dear ANOMOS (peace to you!). Unfortunately, most folks (especially in the US) are so uninformed... or SO concerned for their own personal safety that they just cannot imagine that the U.S. might be a threat somewhere. Yet, it is and has been for getting near to a century, now. The modern US is NOT the US that sought independence from England; rather, starting with slavery, it became the very thing it was SUPPOSED to be designed to overcome. Most have NO idea what the Patriot Act means for them... and don't CARE... so long as it keeps "foreigners" from committing acts of terror on "our" soil. What they miss, quite sadly, is that... perhaps save Pearl Harbor and the 9/11 attacks on the WTC... ALL acts of terror committed on US soil has been by US CITIZENS! And not all immigrants, either!

And... there has always been speculation that 9/11 was a "inside" job. Now, I am NOT a conspiracy theorist... but I am a reader. Of all manner of things. And watcher of all manner of media. And the RELATIONSHIP(s) and HISTORY between/among:

- Iran and IRAQ
- Iran and Israel
- GW Bush and oil
- Iraq and Kuwait
- Dick Cheney and Haliburton
- Rebuilding of Iraq (by Haliburton)
- GW's cousin being head of security at the WTC on 9/11
- All Saudi folks being immediately expressed out of the country
- Most of the 9/11 perps being Saudi nationals, NOT Iranian or Iraqi or Afghan

as well as the HISTORY/relationships between:

- the US/Bin Ladan/Afghanistan
- the US/Saddam Hussein/Iraq
- the US/Holocaust/Jewish Agency/State of Israel
- the US/Shah of Iran/Ayatollahs
- the US/Russia/Afghanistan

And ya'll did know that the U.S. is helping grow opium in Afghanistan, right? And that the "war on drugs" only applies when drugs hit the streets... but NOT to when pharmaceutical companies need opium (and so fabricates a war to take over the poppy fields of Afghanistan, their number one crop)... or the Department of Defense needs to fund a war (say, like the Iran/Contra war, which crack was introduced into our society to fund)?

No, I don't think ANYONE involved in these matters has clean hands. Not Israel, not Iran, not Iraq, and certainly not the U.S. In which light, them soccer moms better wake up. All that "peace and security" thing they're longing for? As soon as they're told it's been achieved... and they heave their sighs of "relief"... well, I'm sure other "moms" were thinking the same thing before the "end" came upon them, too.

Not meaning to shake ya'll up. Well, yes, I am. Not meaning to be a SCHLEPROCK, no... but certainly saying folks really should pay attention to what is going on. Because it's usually those who don't who fare the worse.

But... DON'T worry; BE happy! LOLOLOL!

Peace!

A slave of Christ,

Shellamar

I am well aware of what is taking place in Afganistan and who supported financially the Muslim fanatics there in the past to use them against the then Soviet Union.
Just that history is written by the winner, aka the strongest, aka USA. But for how long?

Who is the bad guy? It is true that the middle eastern people are very tricky and Muslims are fanatics who can slaughter you without second thought and regret. But don't we have the same problem here with the Nazi's. Are US rulers less guilty? The real threat is not a country, but the lack of education. Those Arabs are mostly uneducated people and can easily be manipulated. You may argue that Westerns receive education (let me question if they learn anything at school nowadays). But this type of education is only part of the real education. The real education is that which is based on Classic (=Ancient) Greek values. People need to study ancient Greek and learn philosophy.