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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:13 pm 
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Sab, have you read the purpose of this forum? In it, I explained quite clearly, what I meant by religion. Maybe you should look at that again.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:28 pm 
Thanks for making that post, Tammy, but unfortunately I cannot agree to those terms because they defy basic logic and reason. For starters THIS FORUM is by definition religious. There isn't a clear separation between Christ and religion. Also, I have been attacked many times on this forum and you misinterpreted them as sound council. My posts have been highly moderated and I was even accused of eternal sin and you didn't even bat an eye. Highly disappointing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:37 pm 
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If you don't accept the purpose of the forum and have so many issues with it Sab, and both you and Char spend your time here attacking Shelby (and anyone else who challenges your attacks) I really have wondered why on earth you are both here.

This evening I have 'heard' why though. So now I understand.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:41 pm 
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THIS forum, does not belong to you, and is not defined by you.


So I don't care if you cannot agree to those terms or not. Those ARE the terms. THAT IS the purpose of this forum. You want a forum that has another purpose... by all means, create, maintain, run and pay for one, yourself.




(and I am not rehashing something on a matter that you have twisted into something that it was not)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:46 pm 
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tec wrote:
Sab, have you read the purpose of this forum? In it, I explained quite clearly, what I meant by religion. Maybe you should look at that again.


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It's an abuse of the English language, Tammy.

By definition, a religion is a particular body of belief about the divine. Instances are Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Shin-to, Baha'i, Judaism etc. Christianity, Islam and Judaism are religions that share a root.

If we're writing in English it's reasonable to expect that the forum won't deviate into Shelby/Tammy-ese!

Obviously, this is a religious organisation,as Sab has said.

You can call a rose a paper bag, but it's still a rose.

Talk about twisting language to suit yourself! LOL!

Helpfully, when I tried to post, the forumatic system just offered me your latest post to read, Tammy. Hmmmm....could you be losing your cool?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:49 pm 
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Well I had a nice mini vacation after washing my paws :) now I'm back.

Sab: what drew you here after your hiatus to comment on the forums? Was it to support Chariko as she was "outnumbered"? :)

Who or what compelled you to once again participate?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:53 pm 
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I'm by no means as outnumbered as it might seem. It's just that not everyone posts...not surprising seeing the vitriol my posts attract from the little inner group.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:06 pm 
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How very extraordinary, justmom, that you should think that I require everyone to think the same!


What else is she to think, Char?

Justmom... perhaps THE most loving person on this forum; her only "fault" was in speaking against the RCC and what does not hold up in them, to Christ.

Before that... you thought she was loving. As soon as she spoke out on the RCC issue... then you called her judgmental, and arrogant, a cult follower, etc, ad nauseum.


Once again, I will state... that no one here who has professed Christ and hearing him in spirit has changed, or pretended to be someone who they were not from the very opening of this forum. We knew that you were in the RCC... and we did not discuss the RCC for that reason, out of concern for YOU and those others who were in the RCC. And we were all doing okay... ignoring the differences in regard to religion; and focusing solely upon Christ.

But the moment religion came into play, the divisiveness began as well. The focus shifted off Christ... and onto religion. Because that is what religion DOES. Gets people to look at IT... and away from Christ.

That is what happened on this forum. Should be a clear example, though I am aware that some will not see. But some will.


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Thank you TAMMY for your kindness.

I realize it was inevitable from the start.

We are XJW for CHRIST and nothing and no one else.

I knew that whenever we were to discuss religion and how and why it could not be the truth or a visible means that Jah uses...it would get ugly!

What would happen if there was nothing but Jah, Christ, Holy Spirit and the fruitages of the spirit existing in this world???

Where would the faith be then?

We realize that Holy Spirit is our teacher and that there is no more need for man teaching us ( 1 John)

The law he has written on the hearts not anymore on stone tables on in books.

I realize we have been distracted from our purpose and I understand why.


I remember asking way back when WHY? And as to REFORM???

He told me he does not FIX or REFORM something that does not belong to him because of being unclean and NOT TRUTH.
Instead he is calling out his people to " get out of her"...
To come to His son who is the ONLY TRUTH! To be led by HIM!
My passion is renewed by the fact that my Lord told me many years ago that religion has been set up and allowed as false Christs and lights to " mislead if possible the chosen ones".

So thank you again
Just wanted to share this
Love Justmom


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:15 pm 
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Well I had a nice mini vacation after washing my paws :) now I'm back.

Sab: what drew you here after your hiatus to comment on the forums? Was it to support Chariko as she was "outnumbered"? :)

Who or what compelled you to once again participate?


I came back because I had a message to deliver. I have faith that what I've said was received by who needed to receive it in the way of which they needed to receive it. This has never been about me or an individual or group of individuals, but that a message be delivered.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:22 pm 
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sabastious wrote:
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Well I had a nice mini vacation after washing my paws :) now I'm back.

Sab: what drew you here after your hiatus to comment on the forums? Was it to support Chariko as she was "outnumbered"? :)

Who or what compelled you to once again participate?


I came back because I had a message to deliver. I have faith that what I've said was received by who needed to receive it in the way of which they needed to receive it. This has never been about me or an individual or group of individuals, but that a message be delivered.

-Sab




Yes, and she's defying my orders again.

-Sab


Hello Sab....

Was this the message that you needed to deliver??....As Her superior ???

Doesn't stand up to Christ Sab!

Love to you really.....
Justmom


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:25 pm 
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Well, justmom, when Shelby closes this group down, as she threatens, or Tammy locks this thread as she did another....and deleted my perfectly harmless post as well, posting instead

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No sorry... this wasn't inviting comment.


Then the little tiny few of you can sit and look at each other's posts and murmur "wonderful" and feel so smug that you've got rid of people who don't follow your path.

Talk about exclusivist!

Yes, Tammy, once upon a time I too thought that justmom...and you yourself...were very loving. Sadly you have both copied...shall I say "another" to fit in with the doublespeak n this particular forum?...another who never writes directly if she can be oblique.

You people really don't like debate, do you?

And look at Shelby's double standards! I remember her reprimanding me and saying it was all a matter of free discussion on a forum and things should not be taken personally.

I noticed, as time went on, that debate only went so far if she was able to have the last word, and she gave herself free licence to say whatever lies she liked however often the true facts were given her.

And now she's thrown her toys out of the pram and stormed in with threats!

Talk about needing control! Talk about a power trip!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:30 pm 
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sabastious wrote:
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Well I had a nice mini vacation after washing my paws :) now I'm back.

Sab: what drew you here after your hiatus to comment on the forums? Was it to support Chariko as she was "outnumbered"? :)

Who or what compelled you to once again participate?


I came back because I had a message to deliver. I have faith that what I've said was received by who needed to receive it in the way of which they needed to receive it. This has never been about me or an individual or group of individuals, but that a message be delivered.

-Sab


Can you be more specific? Why couldn't this message have been delivered in private? Why did it have to have the backing of an audience?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:31 pm 
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Can you be more specific? Why couldn't this message have been delivered in private? Why did it have to have the backing of an audience?


Because the message was for them.

"Free as a bird."

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:34 pm 
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What is this message? I have to ask because I feel as if I am part of this audience. And who is this message from specifically?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:34 pm 
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And she even thinks that the Watchtower is a religion! Seriously!

That's what JW's call it. I didn't think anyone else believed that.

But oh yes, Shelby has just posted it and Shelby is a JW at heart, just one who didn't get her way.

True to who she is she's just locked one of Hellpuppy's threads and twisted and misquoted a brief completely innocuous post of mine.

Now she'll either lock this one, or ban me, or erase this post...or none of those just to prove she's long suffering really.

Oh, and Pup, Sab's been clearly delivering his message.


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