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Nope, FOR Us.

AKA... MEAT CANDY!!! Ohhh, yeaaaaaaah...

Makes me SO glad for the NEW Covenant: I can eat bacon and STILL be considered "clean"!! Well, that and the eternal life it holds out - LOLOLOL!

Peace, chikkens (which is the "other" meat candy)...

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellama, who feels a craving for smothered cabbage and... wait for it... BACON... comin' on...

Good morning Char,

PaulS says...
The books and letters of the bible were written FOR Us ( believers) but they were NOT written TO Us.


I will venture to say that I feel that what is written is TO EVERYONE ( as what is written is to lead us to CHRIST and that is an open invitation) " There are many invited"...
But will also add that it is NOT.. TO EVERYONE....because many will not choose to follow that which is written whom it leads TO. Or the " few are chosen verse"...

And the key is your last statement as to why they will choose what they do!

And who is able to hear?

So whoever they may be, our Lord knows as he knows HIS SHEEP. And whoever they name be, they will be listening to His voice, not their own or that of a stranger ( false shepherds)
But for those of us who do know him, we can say what is written is TO us and FOR us. As an example, a warning, lessons, reminders, loving discipline when we need them.

I realize this was to Loz but wanted to share also
Love to you
Justmom.

I totally understand this. Because I will often hold on to things for a bit, wondering what the REAL message (or the point) is behind what I was just told, instead of sharing them and then perhaps someone else has been given something to add.

For instance, yesterday I heard from the Spirit that if man knew that fire could destroy their enemies completely, this life and the next, that man WOULD use that to a) do it (attempt to utterly destroy his enemies, and we would see more and more people burned up to be utterly destroyed), and/or b) enslave others through their fear of being completely destroyed.


But this is not me saying that God did not speak of this or warn against it (because He did speak as to how one SHOULD handle their dead, and He gives us these instructions always for our benefit). Just simply that if more known, we would totally see more people dying in that manner, as some men attempt to utterly destroy their enemies.



As for bone preservation, when I was researching how fast bones decay or disintegrate (due to this topic), I did learn about how bones in the sea are best preserved. Then bones that are protected from the elements (such as in a burial site, or in the ground... although some kinds of earth is acidic and actually works the opposite way).

Peace,
tammy

Actually, Shelby, I wasn't baiting, or trying to bait Loz at all in any way. I was asking a straightforward question because I really wanted to know.

What was it about my short post that made you think I was baiting her? What would have been my motive? I was actually trying to get clear in my mind, to understand, what was actually meant.

Do I think the Bible was written to all? I don't think the Bible was written, as a whole, to anyone. Obviously, some prophecies may have been written to Israel but much more because of divine direction, which is at times explicitly stated. Some is written as record, the psalms largely fromDavid's heart, some is letters eg Paul etc...etc. so, no, not TO all, but it is there and anyone, indeed, all may read it. Thus all are exposed to the possibility of God's word reaching them.

Yes, of course Luke wrote to Theophilus, whether that name belongs to a historical individual or is in fact a generic appellation for a lover of God, I.e. any such person. That's clear. Luke says so.

As to where bits of the Bible are addressed to someone, I am not sure why you consider me an expert or if you are intending to cross-examine me for some unfathomable reason of your own, but Shelby, you are an intelligent woman and know the Bible every bit as well as I do, and probably far better as you were a Jehovah's Witness and I am a Catholic, so I am sure you can answer that for yourself, far better than I can.

What bone of contention do you think have with Loz, Shelby? I am not aware of any right now...nor Loz with me, as far as I know, so please do enlighten me!

Do you have a bone of contention with me? Why should perfectly straightforward questions produce such a reaction?

LoL is bacon kosher?

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Hello Chariklo, well I can't speak for Mr Bloggs or Mrs Jones or indeed anyone else, I can only speak for myself, not in comparison with anyone. Their relationship with Jah and Jaheshua is their business, not mine to judge.

I am nothing special Chariklo. I still remember the time before I was a part of the body, and I recall my love for Jah and His son, my faith in the promises and the joy those things brought me. Jah promises to take us in as "sons and daughters" if we "quit touching the unclean thing", and when I received the witness of the spirit as described here in Romans 8

15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!"
16 it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

my relationship with Jah and His son deepened accordingly, and this I do believe to be 'special', on their part, not mine, as described here 1 Corinthians

4 I always thank my God for you because of the grace God has given you in Christ Jesus.
5 I thank God because in Christ you have been made rich in every way, in all your speaking and in all your knowledge.
6 Just as our witness about Christ has been guaranteed to you,
7 so you have every gift from God while you wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to come again.
8 Jesus will keep you strong until the end so that there will be no wrong in you on the day our Lord Jesus Christ comes again.
9 God, who has called you to share everything with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.

This witness of the Spirit is discussed in detail, and particularly throughout the New Testament, to spiritual Israel, which then therefore relates to the personal experience of members of the body, as applicable to them/us. But as the above shows it is CHRIST who keeps us strong in knowledge, not the bible.

Let's not forget though, that I did NOTHING to deserve this, or earn it, it is a gift from Jah. In fact I would say I would have been the least deserving, if that was what it took!

Moreover, the opportunity to receive this gift is still open to ALL those who seek it and who approach Jah and His son in faith. Rev 22:

17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" Let the one who hears this say, "Come!" Let whoever is thirsty come; whoever wishes may have the water of life as a free gift.


Loz x

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Dear Char.....

I wanted to add something that I was just hearing with regard to this subject of what is " written" and who it is for. My Lord just corrected me and reminded me ( of courses I already knew this )

He asked me " Does this mean that if someone does not have what is written, they cannot COME TO ME?... Belong to me?...Be joined to the body? What if they were born blind or deaf?"
What is written is to lead ones to HIM. But it is not necessary to have it to be known by Him.
Once we KNOW him, he will lead us the rest of the way and finish our training. Nothing more is needed!
Of course I know this. A good reminder to me!

Love Justmom

PS to Shelby,

I agree with you about the Bible...personally, I think the different bits of it were written for all manner of purposes, as I think you do. Certainly not, of course, "for" us.

As far as I can see you and I are in agreement on this, no argument from me, and anyway, I am sure you know the Bible better than me!

Hmm. For us... or... To us? Wondering about what each of us considers to be the difference.

For me... to someone, is a letter to that person (or persons). For us... something recorded hopefully for our benefit.

Certainly much of what is written is addressed to specific people, or all of Israel, or physical Israel/spiritual Israel.

Revelation is written for and to... all those who hear the prophecy in that book. That would certainly include the Body of Christ.


Peace,
tammy

PUP...

They be a life TOO!!!
They have a spirit as well. Just a different kind of flesh than us. 1 Corinthians 15:39
Psalms 146-150 ( 150:6) ....Pigs breathe,

Pups have spirits as well. Just fur! Same applies!

Love ya Justmom

Thanks, justmom.

I wasn't meaning anything other than the question I asked.

I don't have opinions or ideas about how and why bits of the Bible are written, or for whom or not. I am not a Biblical scholar. I am just an ordinary Catholic Christian who loves God and who tries hard to follow Jesus Christ as best I can. That's all I am.

Yes, I wandered, from good but mistaken motives, into the clutches of some Jehovah's Witnesses, a time of which I am very ashamed, but I am very happy to be fully back in the fold of Christ's Church and to be close at all times to Jesus.

Hence, men like Nebuchadnezzar... and Adolf Hitler, dear tec (peace, luv!)? I am most GLAD that MORE don't know, of course! Given the penchant for nuclear proliferation from time to time, however, it seems that "someone" knows... and keeps trying to put it in the hearts and minds of (certain) men (men, including women).

I think I also need to share, for any who might be interested, as to just "who" IS a member of the Body of Christ... and that would be those who are Christ's brothers. Does this mean James, Jude, et al.? No. Christ SAID who his brothers were:

"While [Jesus] was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

"He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:46-50

Now, of course, MANY call him "Lord"... but we know his words to SOME of them:

"Get away from me; I never knew YOU."

and...

"Why do you call me Lord, but do not do the things I SAY?"

He addresses this:

"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

"Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

"[Jesus] replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teachings. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teachings. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me."

Now, again, this is the BODY of Christ. Those who co-rule WITH Christ, pursuant to his covenant with them "for a kingdom." The kingdom was his, to rule ALONE... and he has chosen to SHARE that rulership with others (his brothers). Which is ANOTHER underlying "lesson" of the history of Israel: that brothers should rule TOGETHER... not fight AGAINST one another.

There are others who will ALSO take part in that kingdom... but not a rulers; as subjects. Those are the "sheep" who are separated from the "goats." These are NOT Christ's brothers... but are privileged to share in the kingdom because of how they TREATED Christ's brothers:

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

But not EVERYONE gets to take part in this privilege. SOME... are cut off from life:

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

These latter ones... the "goats"... do NOT recieve life, but destruction: the eternal punishment of being cast into the Lake of Fire... where Satan and HIS angels are cast Revelation 20:10... from which there is NO resurrection.


So, while the invitation to BE one of Christ's brothers is held out to ALL... EVERY one of mankind... because of THEIR works... or lack of works... or disobedience to Christ's voice and teachings... not all of mankind are CALLED. AND... of those CALLED... few... are CHOSEN.

We can look at all of these things how WE wish to be, dear ones... or we can LISTEN to what Christ SAID. If we can't even listen to his RECORDED words... how can we expect to hear... his SPOKEN words??

Just some things to consider...

Again, peace to you, ALL!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellama

Amen my sister....
Thank you
Justmom.

Lol at all these replies going on while I wrote my post! Could've saved myself the trouble!

Loz x

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