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YPPUPLLEH SAID

Well "theist" can be general so I wasn't sure if you believed in the God of Abraham or some other belief system.

All I have to make an opinion on whether or not this person is Jesus rests solely on what I see in their website. While I will cede that it is possible I will also state that I find it to be improbable.
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Love is a warm rubber puppy...

CHARIKLO SAID

Actually, Pup,



that is not all you have to base your opinion on. By claiming that he is Jesus, and that his parner (wife?) is mary Magdalene, he is making a direct reference back to a person whom we know through the Bible, and historically through some sources unrelated to the Bible. he is grounding his claim on somehting that has external data against which his claim can be checked.

Do you find that such checking as you have been able to do gives you any confidence at all that he and Jesus are one and the same person? Or indeed that he could be?

Remembering that Jesus was the Son of God and Son of Man, as he called himself, that he called God his Father in Heaven, that the Holy Spirit came upon those assembled at Pentecost, and that Jesus himself said, as Tec reminds us, that the next time he comes no-one will know it beforehand and that everyone will be aware of it, while I am all for keeping an open mind it seems to me important also to preserve a basis of sheer common sense. (I'm also aware that had I listened to my own common sense and inner misgivings I wouldn't have landed myself in a tangle with the Jehovah's Witnesses, but that is to my eternal shame and something I just have to live with...I won't be caught like that again.)

Also, aside from his claims to be Jesus, he is talking of attaining one-ness with God. This is not a new goal for people to aspire to. This concept is common in the Eastern religions and has been a widespread strand of normal Christian thinking and teachings on prayer since the very earliiest times. You can find it in the writings of some of the Desert Fathers and in the mediaeval Christian mystics. It is a common element of much modern-day monastic thought.

To my mind, that is why you can find isolated bits of his site that sound as if they might be saying something interesting.

But really, truly, he isn't. Notice how he presents himself, hair and appearance, to look like the earliest pictorial representations of Jesus. Imagine him with a neat short back and sides hair cut in a suit. Still the same plausible guy?

AGUEST SAID


This is what I mean about "critical thinking," dear Char (the greatest of love and peace to you!): even if one doesn't hear our dear Lord's voice themselves to tell them as to these things, then they have writings with which to compare what others... who claim to be in tune with such writings... say/do. So, if they are claiming something ("I am the Christ/Jesus" - and note, a claim of being "Jesus" doesn't necessarily equate to being "the Christ"... and so may very well be true - the guy's name COULD be "Jesus" and his girl's "Mary") based on what is written (their claim being so based)... then all one need do is check the writing their claim is based on. If the claim is true, then the two (the claim and the writing) should jive (at least, common sense says they should).

Here, they don't, as both you and dear tec (peace to you, as well, dear one!) have wonderfully point out.

Again, peace to you, both!

YSSFS of Christ,

SA

JUSTMOM SAID



I understand A Theist... Sorry for that humor! I was just thinking of Christ now. As The Holy Spirit he is ALWAYS here for those who ask in His name. Not distracted by a personal life and able to come to the aid of those who love him ALWAYS. Not being in the flesh NOW enables him to do that.

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justmom

CHARIKLO SAID

es, justmom, he is with us always, even unto the end of the world, and also, once again, when he comes again physically everyone in the world will know it.

It won't be in the quiet of our own hearts. He will come in a blaze of glory.

JUSTMOM SAID

Thank you Char...



YES!!!

justmom

AGUEST SAID

"Look! I AM... WITH YOU... ALL the days... UNTIL the [end of the age]!"Yes, indeed!

Peace, dear ones!

Your servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

SA

CHARIKLO SAID

Yes!

I've been following closely the thread you have been posting on in that other place, Shelby, and I've been trying to contribute. Now, here is a very strange thing. No matter how carefully I type...I am on my iPad...not a single word, not one letter, goes onto the page. I've tried Safari and I've tried in Chrome, but I might as well be using invisible ink!

Nothing wrong with my iPad, so maybe I am meant to keep quiet and watch from the sidelines tonight. So, Shelby, just know that there are many, many people observing what happens there.

Sorry, that is off-topic, and yet maybe not entirely. I believe some very strong links are being forged in this forum.

AGUEST SAID

Thank you, dear Char (peace to you!). That is good, comforting, and very encouraging to know! THANK you!

Your servant and fellow slave of Christ,

SA