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Not sure if I have posted this in the right place, so if I haven't can admin move it please?

I was chatting with a neighbour today and she was saying that we live in one of the most haunted Army Camps in the Country, her house is in fact the most haunted army home in the Country. Numerous families have moved in and had to be moved out because of the unseen behaviour going on. One family that lived in the house had to be moved as the wife had to be taken in respite due to losing her mind *she was perfectly stable before moving into the house* and her children became mentally ill.

My nerighbour was saying how she's on a group about haunted military houses and numerous families have come forward to send her messages when she posted the area she lived in. These people knew the number of the house as its so notorious for the ghostly goings on, one woman sent my neighbour a picture she took when she lived in the house of three figures wearing gas masks in her bedroom.

Families that live here now tell of ghostly behaviour, things being moved about mainly. One wife was saying how when her husband was packing for deployment the spirit was removing the contents of the suitcase.

My neighbour has told the spirit in her home that he can stay as long as he does not cause any harm, so far he just moves things about and follows her around the house.

During WWII the camp was bombed as it used to be an American air base and many were killed, it is rumoured to be the spirits of those soldiers that lost their lives during that attack. I also know that tarot readings, ouji boards *used by children over the park on camp* have been used. As for seances I'm not sure but due to how haunted this camp is it wouldn't surprise me.

Many of the animals here become very aggressive or very nervous, both my dog and the dog my neighbour had stare at nothing with their ears up, even growling. My dog is very unsettled and becomes so spooked he will claw at me in fear.

I just wanted to see what you thought of this. I'm not fearful before anyone thinks that.

Youtube has tons of paranormal videos and topic videos.

I speak to my deceased relatives frequently. And many whom are not (relative). Just as if we were in same room. Just do.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I have never ever encountered paranormal stuff or talking with dead people. Wonder why some people can do and others can't??

I can't respond specifically as to your Army base, dear 'Sprout (peace to you, luv, and SO glad to see you!), but I have had a few such experiences. Some too extensive to relate just now (I am TY-IRD!), but I will share that a week before Katrina hit the area (which has nothing to do with this except to give you a sense of "when"), dear hubby and I visited the Oaks Plantation just outside of New Orleans. I think I shared the experience, either on our previous board (before the change) but most likely on JWN. Anyway, although I ususally LOVE our vacations... and did love most of that one... the day at that place was horrid for me.

I will relate what occurred in a second but let me say, my family hails from two plantations in Virginia... and still have land on both. I visited the land on my mother's side (given to my great-great grandparents, a half brother and sister couple who were both children of the master by him when he freed them) last year... and brought back virgin cotton that I picked from the field myself (while my elderly aunt screamed at me from the car to get back in the car - "Our people broke they BACKS on that cotton, guhl! Some even DIED! You should be 'SHAMED of yourself, pickin' dat cotton! Git back in this car!!" Well, I wanted to show dear hubby and kids what the cotton from "our" plantation looked like, so I ignored her and brought a boll back, complete with seeds! Since my eldest aunt on my father's side died at age 101 about 5 months ago, we are now in the process of selling the former plantation land on that side. I digress.)

Anyway, we visited the Oaks Plantation (the famous one that you see on all manner of media... the one with the long lane lined with oak trees leading up to the "big house"). My first indication that something was "wrong" was while we were touring the "big house." It just didn't feel right... and the guide made it worse, gushing over and making a big deal over the lifestyle of the master and mistress... while glossing over the atrocities carried out against the slaves (besides beatings, maimings, and hangings, some were boiled alive in the two large vats just outside used to melt cane sugar... often for some measly transgression.

At some point, I couldn't breathe and told dear hubby I had to get out of that house. Interestingly, HE felt it, too, and agreed. So, we left the tour and went outside to wait on the bus. Before we GOT to the bus, however, "something" happened to me. We came upon a monument, a pedestal that had a glass case on it and inside were the pages from a slave registry. It had the name, sex, age, use/trade... and cost... of each slave bought for the Oaks Plantation.

As we stood there reading it... THE STRANGEST thing I have EVER experienced occurred... and I almost lost it. As we stood there... I began to hear "wailing" and "crying." But here's the thing: it was the wailing and crying of more than 1,000 "people"... ALL of whom had either been KILLED there... or were BURIED there. I could hear EACH voice... separately and distinctly! But that wasn't all. As I heard them... I had the OVERWHELMING feeling... that I had to MOURN for them. CRY for them. Each one of them!

I told dear hubby, "I feel like I have to cry... NOT for myself... but THEIR tears. That I have to cry... for more than a thousand years!!!" It was THE most overwhelming "spirit" feeling I have EVER felt. I couldn't breathe! I RAN out of there, and onto the bus, where dear hubby and I stayed until the rest of the tourists joined us. I could NOT get off the bus. I wasn't scared - I was tired. Like thousands of years of tired. SO fatigued. I felt like I had been walking... not a long WAY... but a long TIME. Since... Egypt left Israel. I felt very old...and very tired. Almost "mummified."

That one experience made me "hate" New Orleans. But that, and other experiences while we were there, helped me realize why there is so much voodoo and other melarkey going on there. NOT because there are demons there... but because a LOT of blood was spilled there. Not blood spilled as in war... but blood spilled... in BOATLOADS... from innocents, even children. People who were not "evil" but had come to know JAH... and His Christ. And it is their blood... that "speaks"... on that plantation, surrounding plantations (there are many)... and all throughout the New Orleans area.

A LOT of Abraham's seed apparently came to that area... from Africa, by means of the Caribbean. A LOT. And... were annihilated, at least in the flesh... by those who served the Adversary. Their skin (color) hid them from man... but their spirits were not hidden from our Adversary. And he did everything he could to get them to curse JAH... but they wouldn't... and didn't... and so, like Abel, who was murdered by HIS brother... their blood cries out.

And for those who have JAH's spirit in them... and so can HEAR them crying... it is a LOUD... and HORRIBLE... "noise." Just heart wrenching.

So, I have no problem understanding what some may be experiencing at that Army base, dear, dear 'Sprout. Given that it is a MILITARY base, it could very well be that innocent blood was spilled there, even the blood of the seed of Abraham. There could have been tortuous interrogations held there, POWs, etc., could have been murdered there... something.

Are there "ghosts" there? No, luv. The dead are dead... and conscious of nothing here. Can the mourning of their spirits be HEARD, though, HERE? Absolutely. And certainly by animals, as they are much more keen in their hearing (and so, much more obedient, for the most part, than we are!).

There is nothing to fear - the dead cannot harm us. There may be, however, much to mourn. If you want to know what's happening, find out what REALLY occurred there. What blood was spilled... and why.

I hope this helps.

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Wow Shelby (peace to you!) That is an experience and a half... To 'feel' that pain must have been so intense. I had no idea that the spirit of those that belonged to Abrahams seed killed could still cry out, I always thought once you died you slept unless you were awakened. I had no idea so this is mind blowing. When you said you felt you had to mourn for those spirits, I can relate to that! Since moving here I have felt as though I need to grieve, to mourn and yet I have never understood what!

As I was reading what you had posted the emotion is caused in me was intense, so for you to be there and feel it... Well... I can't even begin to imagine. For you to have had family undergo those atrocities, its heart wrenching!

I did do some research about the base and in 1940 during the battle of Britain the base was bombed and there were casualties... I haven't found minor details yet but what I have found out makes sense. I'm going to delve into this deeper and see what I can uncover.

As you said its the 'blood' that cries out, what causes the feelings of being followed and of things being moved, cupboards being opened and furniture moved about?

I 'feel' things like this and have done since I was a child, I would see a little girl in my playroom and hated going in there.

Morning dear WS...

Just a quick reminder as to the blood speaking...

Remember those in Revelation that are under the alter ( they were slaughtered for the the lambs sake)
they are sleeping yes, but they who have life within themselves because of their union with our Lord cry out, ( blood speaking) " How much longer before our blood is avenged?" ....and remember they are told to rest a little while longer...that the time for the first resurrection has not yet begun.

Just a quick thought before work.

Love your sister in Christ, Kim

P.s. And yes Shelby I do remember your vacation and story and it had to be overwhelming with sadness. Thank you for your continued prayers on their behalf and a reminder for me as well to pray for them. Enjoy your day you all.

Thank you, dear, dear 'Mom (peace to you, luv!)... and yes, dear 'Sproutie-Girl (peace, chile'!)... the spirits of the dead do sleep; however, there are times when they cry out - for example, as dear 'Mom shared... when Abel's blood cried out... the "sound" rose from Sodom, etc. Blood spilled unrighteously must be avenged. It "calls out" to JAH for it.

I am not sure that what I heard was the spirit of those very folks crying AT THE TIME... versus perhaps the "resonation" of their cries... over "time" (like an echo). But the blood cries out not only if it spilled unrighteously, but if it is not poured back into the ground (the earth "muffles" the "voice" of blood, dear one... which is why the Law called for it to be poured out onto the ground. THAT was one of the things included in the new Dracula movie that I was like, with dear hubby, "Did you see THAT???!!!" He missed it, unfortunately - LOLOL!).

WE might not be able to hear it, on our own, but if we are joined to Christ, then we can hear whatever HE... and through him, the FATHER, "hears." There are also those who "climb up some other way" so as to enter into the spirit realm who can hear this, too. Psychics, clairvoyents, sorcerers, etc. In fact, it is experiences like this that created the thing about "ghosts" wailing, moaning, etc. It is not the dead PERSON, per se, that such ones hear... some transluscent-bodied phantom "being" that hulks around "haunting" places/people. It is their BLOOD that is "wailing" and "moaning." And that is what I heard.

It is also possible that what I heard came from within my Lord... from HIS heart/memory... which I was able to receive by means of our union. Like if you were to be able to come into MY heart/mind and hear/feel MY memories somehow, as I once heard and felt them.

I truly don't know. I do know that I heard a LOT of pain. "Mourning and outcry." It was chilling and SOOOoooo sad! There was nothing to be afraid of, though. I didn't need to get out there because I was afraid of anything or anyone. But because the sorrow was just unbearble.

OH!! And the animals where you are, dear Sid, etc., are most probably reacting NOT to what they are SEEING... but what they are HEARING. I have shared before that hearing things of the spirit is like how dogs can hear a dog whistle but we can't. A much higher frequency. I'm sure you've seen how some animals, and particular dogs, react when someone is crying, moaning, in pain... when fireworks go off, etc. They don't necessarily SEE what is causing the sound, but they KNOW something is "wrong."

Ennywho, I hope this helps, luv, truly.

Peace to you... and hug and reassure dear Sid (and dear BabyS) a lot.

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

Saw this on Facebook. Quite touching and sad. . . .

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=949745201707037

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Ohhh... I can't watch it, dear Armand ( peace to you, dear one! ). As a mother of 6 (two human, four canine)... it would break my heart. Haunt me for weeks. I KNOW animals grieve, particularly dogs. Not just grieve. Ya'll should'a seen my other three while Pup-Pup was recovering from her recent (botched) surgery. Talk about gentle and protective.

Then there how Louie treated dear 'Mom and FinalCall's blind lab baby, Kaia, before she passed. No one TOLD him she was blind but he did NOT treat her like he treats other dogs (mere humping toys - LOL!). He was very gentle and cognizant of her. Even more, I'm SURE 'Mom can share how their other baby, Ollie-Man, took Kaia's passing. He needed some comfort so we sent Layla to spend the night (blew poor Oll's MIND - LOLOL!)

Animals are people, too. Just not human people.

Peace to you all!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel, who often asks herself WHY she took on the People... KNOWING they are going to pass one day and she's gonna be devastated. WHY?! Maybe, like as with humans, for the joy she gets during the little time we DO get to be in one another's lives...

Ooh yes!!!!

No one can ever tell me that canines don't " feel" and " grieve" and sense when somthing is different or wrong with another animal. I have seen it over and over again. I have a whole different perspective and soft spot for animals now I never had as a JW.

Thanks for sharing these stories sis.
Much love and peace to you all, Kim

I saw this too on Facebook! Unbelievably sad! You can feel the pain is so real. Made me cry so hard.

Peace, Kim

I knew that the blood cried out I just didn't realize we could hear it in the physical realm.

I couldn't watch the video, it will play on my mind forever and it will make me cry. I said after my dog died that I wouldn't have another animal and now I have the neediest dog ever who is like a baby and a SNAKE! Fail lol

I couldn't watch the video either, I can't stand seeing animals suffering.

Dogs feel, they sense when you are sick or upset and when someone in their family dies they grieve and suffer.
My German Shepherd Jake amazed me when my husband died suddenly in 2002. He died in bed in his sleep and the dog didn't see him dead. The dog was downstairs that night. Emergency people, firemen, paramedics, neighbors, friends, family, detectives, coroner and men from the morgue where coming and going all day. He lay in bed until 5 PM, he died around Midnight and I had to keep the dog outside all day because of all the commotion. He didn't see them take Robert away but that dog knew something tragic had happened. He threw up for 3 days and had terrible diahrrea (sp?) and had to go in the basement and do it down there when I was out arranging for Robert's funeral. That dog never did his potty in the house ever since he was 10 weeks old. He was so depressed for weeks. For the next year that dog perked up and got excited when something reminded him of his Daddy. It's too much to go into but that dog loved and never forgot his Daddy.

My present dog is a yellow lab and he is so sensitive to our feelings. When John's Mom died on Monday, when John came home the dog realized how upset he was and he kept comforting him all evening, putting his paw gently on his arm or leg and nuzzling him.

Your experience there, Shelby, that was powerful. And of course that makes sense about the blood speaking and crying out. I remembered that about Sodom and Gomorrah; that it was the blood (the spilled blood of the people in Sodom/Gomorrah) that cried out to God. That was the "outcry against them", that was so great. There is no reason that would be limited to just this one place (S/G) and time.

This actually ties directly in with the thread that Leaving posted. I don't think that is coincidence.

I haven't watched the video yet either. (No speakers for my new computer yet) I haven't really seen my dog doing the whole comfort thing yet, and we just have the one dog. But he is a clown (funny, always making us laugh with his crazy antics, and of course tons of affection and cuddles), and that is what this family needed when we brought him home.


Peace to you all,
your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy

Our condolences to dear John on the loss of his mom, dear Zoe... and peace to you, both.

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shel