The Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with... may you all have peace!
My heart is breaking. The Great Harlot, Babylon the Great, has given birth yet again. It is heartbreaking for me... because it is at the hand of someone once close and dear to me. Ah, well, what can you do? For some time now I felt that perhaps I should dispute some of the false teachings being published by this new "woman" (and I don't mean that literally, although a woman is involved). And I did try. I was contacted a few times and the last time tried to share where there was error. Of course, that didn't go over well, particularly considering the number "she" now boasts are being "members." So, I put "her" away in my mind... and heart... and left her to my Lord. Sadly, "she" has come up, again. This time, I found her "waters" to be almost overwhelming - such a great "river"! But then my Lord directed me to another "city where she "dwells" and had me comment there.
Sadly, although there is an open invitation, my past experience tells me that what I shared won't be posted publicly there. And so, I am directed by my Lord to post it HERE... so that any who MIGHT benefit can see the interchange, if they wish to. Following is that interchange and I will post others as I am directed to do so.
Please note, it is NOT my desire, intention... or leadings or intention of my dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... to "pick on" anyone or be contentious. This is about truth... and setting matters straight were lies are being told... PARTICULARLY to those who are seeking him. I realize that not all will see it that way... but I will have to leave that between them and him. Because he did say that he came... to put a sword. Even so, I do hope this doesn't start a "war." More, though, I hope no more are misled (to follow HUMANS)... but find the courage... and FAITH... to follow HIM, and him alone.
Below, then, is a link to the commentary I was directed to respond to, and the comments I submitted.
OH... and during this post I received something that I will share with you in a separate thread.
Again, peace to you all!
Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and to ALL those who go with... and a slave of Christ,
SA
http://www.thechristexperiment.org/#!ex ... tion/c1pjj 1. Did we get it wrong? Is our observation incorrect? If so, what part?You did, and they are, and so I have to disagree, unfortunately. There is MUCH that is in error, but I’m only going to share the following unless you let me… or Christ, if you have faith to ask HIM… know you wish to know the rest:
(YOU State) –
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Nearly 2,000 years ago, a man appeared on earth who came to be known as Jesus of Nazareth. There had been many teachers and wise men on the earth ever since mankind made its appearance on the planet. Many different religions, creeds, and ideologies sprang up giving birth to their own prophets, instructors and ‘saviors.’ But this one man Jesus of Nazareth was uniquely different.
Jesus was identified by his followers not merely as a prophet or a teacher, but as ‘the word of God’ (John 1:1) the begotten Son of God (1 John 4:9), ‘the firstborn of all creation’ (Colossians 1:15), he whose life force had been transferred into the body of a woman on earth and who existed and experienced life as a son of mankind. (John 1:14) Jesus is said to be the one whom God used to create everything and everyone in our universe, no matter what race, nationality, religion, creed or ideology. (John 1:3; Colossians 1:16) And during his ministry, Jesus identified himself as “the way, the truth and the life” – the only means of personality survival after the death of the mortal body. (John 14:6) No other teacher, prophet or wise man has ever made such claims. Thus, every religion, every creed, every ideology is beholding to Jesus whether they know it, admit it, recognize it or not. That is why Jesus is called “Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)
This is not TRUE. First, the HOLY One of Israel… Whom you appropriately call “Christ,” is the only means for ETERNAL life after death of the mortal body… but the personalities of the dead CAN be “raised” without him. That is why DOING so was forbidden (
Leviticus 19:31; Deuteronomy 18:11): because those who do it WITHOUT him, who go AROUND and/or CIRCUMVENT him… are doing so by means of another “authority.” And they CAN go around him into the world of the dead, JUST as they can do so into the heavens (
John 10:1; 22:12, 13). The MOST HOLY One of Israel… whom you may know as “God” or “Jehovah”… would not make a law AGAINST doing something that CANNOT be done. He isn’t an idiot (I mean no disrespect but to assume He would assumes Him stupid – He is anything but).
That [other] authority is “the last enemy”… Death” himself. You may know that one as “Abbadon/Apollyon,” or “Destruction/the Destroyer.” HE is the king over the world of the dead. (
Revelation 9:1, 5). And it is HE that one “obeys”… and God one is DISOBEYING… when engaging in this activity. If no one could DO it, though, raise the personality OF the dead… WITHOUT God/Christ... there would have been no reason for God to prohibit Israel from DOING it. He, however, wants it to be done by HIS SON, ALONE… because only THAT One has the RIGHT to do it. He earned that right, was deemed worthy… and so was GIVEN it when he was given the KEYS to the WORLD of Death BY the Father (
Revelation 1:18)… who has the right, and has ALWAYS had it, even OVER Death himself (
Genesis 3:5, 22).
God… is “GOOD” – Death… is “BAD”… and that is what Adham was promised by the Adversary: to know GOOD (i.e., God… or LIFE) which he DID know… but ALSO BAD (i.e., Abaddon… or DEATH)… and yet LIVE. That was a LIE, because once he came to know Death… he began to die. Because that is the WAGE Death calls for TO know him: our lfe.
And so, previously, anyone doing it… calling up the spirit/personality of one from the dead… WITHOUT the permission/approval of the Father was sinning against the Father by usurping HIS power (
1 Samuel 28:7-19).
NOW, since that Son now has ALL authority, in heaven AND on earth, and the world of Death is IN the earth and so over Death and that one’s realm… any who DO undertake to call up the spirit/personality of a dead one would be usurping the SON’s authority. Even so, they can do it. There are GRAVE consequences FOR doing it… because UNLIKE God, Death does not GIVE free… but charges a VERY HIGH price for access into and out of HIS realm.
Second, if he is the only means of personality survival after death of the flesh, then the account of the Rich Man and Lazarus… is moot. Because BOTH still had personalities, although BOTH had died. The TRUTH is that just like the body experiences a period of “shutting down” upon the death, the spirit also has a delay before it REACHES either the world of the dead (for those who don’t belong to Christ or who died before he poured out holy spirit at Pentecost 30 CE)… or “under the altar” (where the spirit… or life force… of those who belonged to Christ go).
Christ did not give parables that had no practical value. ALL had/have fulfillment, either literally or symbolically. In the case of the Rich Man and Lazarus, these were symbolic to show that had the man listened to Moses he would not have ended up where he did, but with Lazarus, in Abraham’s bosom. Yet, the man LEARNED of his ERROR… BEFORE his spirit succumbed to SLEEP.
Which is what human spirits do at death: sleep. Until they are woken up, either by a resurrection to LIFE… or a resurrection to JUDGMENT. Even Adham/Eve… even Judas. Because there will be a resurrection of the righteous… AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS. The first to life; that latter to judgment (which leads to condemnation and destruction OF that “sinning” spirit).
I will leave off here as to this question, but there is more and I would be more than happy to continue as to the rest if you wish.
2. Do you see Jesus the way we describe him? If not, how do you see him?Yes… and no. You see him as the man; I cannot see, though, where you see… or describe the SPIRIT that he is, which is what he was before he BECAME a man… and what he is AGAIN, now. In that light (no pun intended), you are only seeing PART of him. Seeing him PARTIALLY. Because of this, you make several inaccurate statements. For example, you state:
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Not only was Jesus different, but his message was different. At that time, the Jews were in a terrible bondage to ritualism and legalism that invaded every domain of personal and social life. Although having been born and raised as a Jew, Jesus taught that the entire Jewish religious system had completed its purpose and, with his arrival, had come to an end. (Matthew 5:17) The experiment of group salvation instituted by Moses had become perverted and failed to reach its goals. (Hebrews 10:14) In its place, Jesus introduced individual salvation – a revolutionary way of thinking, believing, and behaving that would apply not only to his own people, the Jews, but to all of mankind to the ends of the earth. (Matthew 28:19)
This is inaccurate. The Jewish system actually came to an end when God allowed the Jews to be exiled into Babylon… the temple to be destroyed (the first time)… and the Ark of the Covenant to be captured and lost. Since the Ark represented His presence WITH Israel, it’s capture, then loss, indicated His REMOVAL of His presence. So, He was no longer with that system. When Christ arrived, God put His spirit IN that One… making HIM (Christ) the approved “temple” – Christ is the Holy… and God, the MOST Holy… was IN HIM. When he came on the scene and read from Isaiah, he was saying, in essence, “The PROBLEM is that you have been WITHOUT God – that’s how you GOT to this POINT (of ritualism/legalism). Being WITHOUT God… so that you do not KNOW God… is how you GOT here. NOW… look to ME… and through ME you will KNOW God… the TRUTH about God, which is what I came to bear witness ABOUT… and I will set you FREE. NOT just from that ritualism/legalism… but ALSO from the BODY, the vessel of FLESH… that ALSO binds and enslaves you.” (
John 8:32, 36; John 14:6) Because what is the POINT in being set free from rituals/legalism, etc., if you are STILL enslaved to a vessel… a BODY… that YOU can’t control but controls YOU? And our bodies do… by means of needing to eat, sleep, getting sick, aging… and dying.
He is MORE than just a prophet and counselor who gave us wise words to live by. He is a SPIRIT… that grants life NOT to just our flesh… but to OUR spirit. And so, again, I see him as you do… and much, much more. Indeed, I have SEEN him… plainly… face to face. And it is NOT what humans expect, not at ALL.
There is much more here, as well, but for the sake of space, I will refrain, again, unless you WISH me to share further.
3. Do you believe 21st century Christianity is practicing the religion Jesus practiced?First, Christ didn’t practice ANY religion. To the contrary, he condemned the ONLY religion even sanctioned by God: the Aaronic priesthood. That is the ONLY religion the MOST Holy One of Israel EVER sanctioned. It was HE who instituted it. And Christ did not practice that religion, but condemned it. He kept the LAW, yes; however, he did not keep it as a RELIGION… nor did he keep it as formulated through Moses; rather, he SURPASSED it. For example, under Moses, a woman with a flow of blood was considered unclean. And one who was HOLY could not touch an unclean thing, let alone an unclean woman. Or they became unclean by means of such touching. Christ, however, the TRUE Nazir… and so “CLEAN” one… was NOT rendered unclean when a woman with an unchecked flow of blood touched HIM – rather, SHE was made clean BY TOUCHING HIM. HIS cleanness SURPASSED her uncleanness. Now, unlike his RELIGIOUS counterparts, who would have taken issue with the woman for just TOUCHING them… HE… FELT PITY FOR HER. And in his pity told her that he WANTED to heal her. And so she was. Rather than being concerned about transgressing the Law… he, in his LOVE… which caused him to feel PITY and COMPASSION… SURPASSED it. In this way HE fulfilled the TRUE Law of God: love. Because love… IS THE LAW’S FULFILLMENT.
And he demonstrated this fulfilling of the Law, CONSTANTLY… by surpassing it (rather than be concerned with transgressing against it). He healed gentiles (whom he wasn’t “supposed” to have anything to do with), touched all manner of unclean persons (lepers, dead bodies, etc.), associated with sinners (versus hanging out with the (self) righteous), and more).
IF, however, by “Christianity” you mean the religions of “Christendom,” which includes Jehovah’s Witnesses… and any new religions coming out of HER… the answer is no. Not at all. Not even close. ALL of these have a FORM of “godly devotion,” but prove FALSE to its power. Why? Because they ALL… lack FAITH. Why do/how can I say that? Because if they had faith… if YOU had faith… they/you would not NEED a religion. They/you would not NEED human leaders, such as elder, priests, popes, pastors, teachings, etc. Because they/YOU would realize… mankind already HAS one… IN One: Christ. HE is the ONLY elder, priest, pope, leader, teacher given us by God. There is NO other. Unfortunately, because most walk by SIGHT… and not by FAITH… they can’t SEE him… or HEAR him.
Yet, he said HIS sheep listen to HIS voice… and to NO OTHER.
John 10:3-5; 7, 9, 16, 27HIS sheep listen to HIM… because HIS sheep HEAR him. HIS voice. And that voice is NOT in the pages of a book (the Bible), but REAL… because… HE IS ALIVE… and SPEAKS. John 5:39, 40; Hebrews 12:15
4. In your opinion, what changes, if any, are needed in the world of Christianity?One thing and one thing ONLY: for all those who belong to the MOST HOLY One of Israel… THROUGH Christ… to GET OUT OF HER. Because THAT is the call FROM Him, the MOST Holy One… to DO. Because if they DON’T… they WILL share in HER sins. Which sins have amassed… clear up to the heavens. Because in HER is found the blood… of the Prophets AND holy ones!
Revelation 18:1-4“She” is “Babylon the Great,” the “MOTHER of the Harlots.” Who are these “harlots”? They are those women with which those who belong to God DEFILE themselves. Most notably, those of Israel. Who are these women? They are, LIKE THEIR MOTHER, those who CLAIM to be bound/married to Christ… part of his BRIDE… but continue to COMMIT FORNICATION AND ADULTERY. How so? By continually joining themselves to the “kings… OF THE EARTH.” Joining up with all manner of false prophets and such rather than staying chaste and TRUE to their “husbandly owner”, Christ.
They follow men… and the teachings of men… get in bed with them… for the GLORY given them BY men. They SAY they are brides… that they “sit a queen” (because they claim marriage to the King, Christ)… but they are HARLOTS. And rather than listen to the voice of the FINE Shepherd and follow HIM… no matter where HE goes… they listen to the voice of the Great Harlot, the LOUD “woman”… who calls them and lead them to COMMIT such adultery.
They ignore that Shepherd’s words that he would NOT leave us bereft but be WITH us… ALL the days… and so in their “need” for other human corroboration of who they are (rather than just HIS spirit!)… they form groups out of which come more religions. MORE “daughters”… harlots… are given “birth.”
When they heed the call to GET OUT OF HER, though… they come OUT… and follow HIM, and him ALONE. As HE said:
“The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.”
John 10:3-5
5. What do you think would be Jesus opinion of a 21st century church, congregation, temple or cathedral?The same as he thought of the 1st century Jewish system… with ITS temple: dens of thieves, dwelling places of demons (include alcohol and pedophilia demons, among other bad spirits… haunts for every IMPURE spirit and UNCLEAN “flying thing”. And so destined to be exposed… have her excessed eaten up, then completely consumed by fire. Just as the Jewish system was back then. John wrote about it:
“‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’
She has become a dwelling for demons
and a haunt for every impure spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
For all the nations have drunk
the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
“‘Come out of her, my people,’
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
for her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her crimes.
Give back to her as she has given;
pay her back double for what she has done.
Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
Give her as much torment and grief
as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts,
‘I sit enthroned as queen.
I am not a widow;
I will never mourn.’
8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."I will stop here, but I hope this helps. In closing, though, please let me say I did not share any of this to be contentious. I did so because (1) it is TRUTH, and (2) I was directed to do so by Christ himself. YOU asked, by means of your instituting this “experiment” and presenting your questions as if you TRULY wish to know. I was concerned that all you might do is glean from it so as to further advance your “ministry.” But my Lord said I was not to worry about that, that that was not MY concern. I was only to be concerned with what HE directed me… and that was to respond to your questions here. I will review your other experiments, as well, and… if moved by my Lord to do so… comment on those, as he directs me.
I am also going to post this on another site which you are familiar with because I don’t have confidence that you will be as transparent as you claim and post this here. I could be wrong, of course. and if so apologize for doubting you (my Lord hasn’t said whether you will or won’t but left it up to me to choose). I hope I am wrong, that you are sincere (as I once knew you to be). But in case I am not, I think others should have access to this information and where you ARE in error… because you cannot claim to belong to Christ, Who IS the Truth… and yet, teach lies.
I don’t mean that as an insult or affront. I only mean it as I have learned from my Lord: that if something is not TRUE… then it IS a lie (humans like to water than down with “it’s just false, but not really a lie” – that’s not how it is with God and Christ, though: there is no “gray”. There is good… and bad. Life… and death. Light… and darkness. Truth… and the lie. This is false God CANNOT lie… and Christ’s mouth ALWAYS speaks truth… and so ANYTHING else… including false teachings… is “from the wicked one,” the “father OF the lie.” Of course, most don’t know this… and don’t THINK they’re serving that one… but anytime a falsehood is stated… and particularly as to God and Christ… is cannot be FROM God and Christ. CANNOT.
Not trying to be disrespectful or mean, truly. Just stating the truth.
Peace to you!
SA