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Anarchist Nikos Maziotis, who was on the run for two years, was seriously wounded and arrested after a shootout with cops in Monastiraki. He was then transferred to the tightly-guarded Evangelismos hospital, where he remains hospitalized. According to his lawyer, the comrade’s life is out of danger.

In the evening of July 16th, 2014 comrades put up a solidarity banner at the gate of the Polytechnic School:

translation: The State and the Capital are the only terrorists – Solidarity with N. Maziotis

So... "funny" - crime and criminals... mercenaries... vigilantes... anarchists... terrorists... Nazis... in Greece! And we think we have it "bad" over here! "Badness" is everywhere! LOLOL!

Peace to you, dear ANOMOS!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Nikos Maziotis is a brave soul and has proven it. How do you compare him with villains? He is a fighter for a better world. But what do I try to reason about? Jesus had the same fate, and would have the same fate with Maziotis if he lived today.

A woman gave him to the police when he was shopping from her shop. The woman noticed the gun he was carrying.
How could he win against a whole bunch of them? His gun wasn't enough. He injured a policeman but was shot while trying to escape by riding a taxi. They were waiting for him.




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Except that Christ didn't kill anyone. Nor did He tell His disciples TO kill anyone. Certainly He did not tell anyone to try to make this world a better place BY killing others. How is that any different than what man has ever done?

On the contrary, Christ said that His Kingdom was NO part of this world.

"My Kingdom is no part of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place." John 18:36

He also said for his disciples to give to Caesar what is Caeser's, which sounds to me to be the opposite of anarchy. Because it is not the kingdoms of this world that those who belong to Him are looking forward TO... but rather to HIS Kingdom. One that will never come to an end. Nor do they have to kill anyone for His Kingdom, other than by speaking the truth that He has given them, therefore 'killing/defeating' lies.

His words to Peter should make clear His teaching on the matter:

"Put your sword back in its place," 'Jesus' said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."


Put your sword BACK in its place. Replace sword with gun, or bomb, etc... and the meaning is still the same.

If one is listening to Christ... as one who is a Christian or disciple SHOULD be doing... then His words are the only ones that matter.


I realize that the various churches - roman catholic, eastern orthodox, and many that came from them, went on crusades, and fought to establish 'christian' kingdoms, etc, etc, throughout history. But these were not listening to Christ either... else they might have paid heed to His words, as copied above.



Peace to you still,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

How do you compare him with villains?

Well, ummmm, in addition to what dear tec (peace, luv!) posted... YOU labeled him an anarchist, luv (peace to you, as well!). Based on the (most prevalent) definition...




... AND many of your other posts (which aren't always clear, as I've tried to share with you on occasion, but overlook on the basis that perhaps English isn't your first language - of course, I could be wrong, but that would make them even MORE confusing)... I didn't know you meant "anarchist" in a GOOD way.

Here, I assumed (I overlooked the word "comrades"). I shouldn't have. Again, though, if you would be a bit more forthcoming... and CLEAR... as to your position related to what you post in a particular thread, I might be able to keep up. Right now... I'm struggling.

I hope that helps clarify and, as always, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shell-a-maca-roni

As a fellow board member, though, dear ANOMOS (again, peace to you!), I'm thinking maybe I might remind you, if you can receive it, as to your posts:

1. In case you weren't aware, calling folks unsavory names... out of anger, ire, contempt, what have you... is maliciousness... which is against the forum guidelines. Just a heads up!

2. I personally don't need to SEE (the picture of) death... to be devastated BY the death. That a child WAS killed was enough for ME to be mournful and so I don't need... or wish... to be further traumatized by seeing an image. As a fellow board member, I would ask that you consider just posting a link in the future? Then, if someone WANTS to see what you're posting about, they can CHOOSE to open the link and see. But if you post the graphic right in the thread... then you're giving us no CHOICE - we are FORCED to see.

I am thinking that maybe it might be suggested that ALL images only be linked... but I don't think that's reasonable. I mean, having a puppy jump out at you when you open a thread is a lot different... and WAY less traumatizing... than have a deceased child, particularly from an act of war... jump out at you. I get the "shock" value you wish to install... but I don't think it should occur here. That's really not what this board is about. I hope you can understand that, although I understand it might be difficult, given the region where you live and what's going on there/nearby. But I won't force YOU to look at the dead bodies of, say, children who succumbed to cancer, drugs... or drive-bys... here... which are just the consequences of a different KIND of "war" (Revelation 12:17)... so...

Just a couple of heads-up and requests for consideration... from a fellow board member? Thank you, kindly!

And, as always, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shel-a-maca-roni

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Some food for thought: And Jesus will force you to see when soon (as JW's say) he slaughters hundreds of millions of children. What will you then reply to him? Will you talk about forum rules?

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Be assured that I felt the same when I saw that picture. It was pretty bad what I did here, but I had to. For your own good. For all children's good. I hope you understand.

As of the name calling: I didn't call any member by a bad name. No regarding the 'Judas' woman I name called:


What that woman did was disgusting. Like a submissive dog that licks her master for a few morsels she betrayed a fighter for freedom. Be sure that her reward will be great: 'She will get a ****' (I will not write this down in respect of all you here) for her great services to the system = she will continue to work as a slave for 'a few pieces of silver' like Judas that aren't enough to cover her basic needs...
Hmm, is YHWH also to be blamed for violating forum rules when in Revelation he calls Babylon the Great the Mother of Harlots?
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Open your eyes and see before you use capitalist propaganda and definitions.
I laughed with my heart reading in the definition that an anarchist is a terrorist!
Not a single honest Greek person is terrorized by the acts of anarchists. Who feel terrorized are indeed the real terrorists: Those who rule and oppress the population for monetary gain. They terrorize the population by imposing heavy taxes on them that they are unable to pay and then threaten then to imprison them for dept, and using them as slaves to work for them for morsels.
If someone raises his hand and kills them he is not a terrorist neither a killer. He is a liberator of humanity, a hero! When YHWH liberated Israel from Egypt by killing the Egyptian army was he a terrorist?

Peace to you Anomos.

You said:



Some further food for YOUR thought... some truth actually: Christ does not and will not slaughter anyone, certainly not hundreds of millions of children. What the jws say does not matter much, because they do not know the Truth (who is Christ) in order to be able to speak the truth. And because they do not know the truth, what they preach and teach are lies about Christ and God, on this and many other matters.

So truly... who cares what jws teach? Care instead about what CHRIST teaches and the example HE left us. What did HE say about children? "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them."


Did He kill anyone? Did He allow anyone to be killed in His name? Or did He instead order Peter to put his sword down, and then turn and heal the one that Peter struck, saying "Enough of this!"

I won't repeat the things I shared above about what Christ said about His Kingdom, or about living by the sword. Perhaps you could just take a look at that post above, and compare what HE taught to what you think about anarchists, etc.

But as to His Kingdom:

Christ establishes His Kingdom with all of those who belong to Him as part of His Body. (the 144 000 chosen from all the tribes of Israel, as well as the Great Crowd that no one can number, from EVERY nation, tongue, people, etc) These ones rule the Kingdom WITH Christ, because He shares that rule with them. But the subjects of the Kingdom are the sheep who are ALSO invited in, and these are taken from the nations. These are those who do good to even the least of Christ's brothers, showing that they have the law (of love) written upon their hearts.

As for the goats, those who do bad to even the least of Christ's brothers - which is doing bad to Christ, just as the sheep do good to Christ by doing good to even the least of his brothers - these goats are cast out, not permitted to come into the Kingdom. He did not slaughter them. He does not permit them inside His Kingdom, which is how they can be 'weeping and gnashing' teeth. They live outside the Kingdom, in the darkness. In darkness, because Christ (the LIGHT) is IN the Kingdom.

So again, Christ does not slaughter anyone.

That is how HIS Kingdom is CLEAN. His Kingdom is not built upon the blood of others/innocents... other than His OWN blood. So the establishment of His Kingdom is not stained with 'collateral damage' (so-called accidental death of innocent civilians). Unlike the kingdoms of THIS world.

He helped me to see and understand this a while ago.



I understand you felt that you had to do that. But that really is not your call to make on this forum. Plus, some of it was based on a misunderstanding. Zoe did not say 'collateral damage' meant that the death of children was not horrendous. So she would not have deserved to have the photo thrown in her face in any case (and neither would anyone else who just happened to open the thread).

Thank you for stating that it was "pretty bad", and for saying that you are glad I removed the photo. I am sure you will respect the decisions of the admin on this matter, moving forward, so thank you for that also.


As for anything else, if you do not agree with any admin decision made here, please raise any further objections via pm, as per the rules and guidelines, thank you!

6) No public argument about Moderator decisions. If you disagree with a decision that has been made by a moderator or administration, then you may raise your concern via PM.


Peace to you again,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Anomos..

I won`t tolerate disputes with mod decisions..
Once Mods or Administration make a Decision,THATS IT!..
There is no further Public Discussion..
Take it up privately,if you feel it`s necessary..

............................................OUTLAW

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So at Armageddon nobody will be killed?

Hmm, Jesus didn't kill anybody. Maziotis didn't kill anybody either.

A lot of folks will be destroyed at Har-Mageddon, yes, dear ANOMOS (peace to you!), but NOT by my dear Lord. You are adhering to a false teaching of the WTBTS. If you want to know how those folks, Gog and Magog, WILL receive their demise, and at Whose hand, please read Revelation 20:7-9 and Psalm 18:6-14.

But I didn't mean to take issue, negative OR positive, with Mr. Maziotis. I assumed you meant "anarchist" as I shared the definition of the word. I am sure our different cultures got in the way, here. I now realize you felt Mr. Maziotis to be a "comrade." We don't really use those terms here... or have the same kinds of conflicts. Perhaps your Mr. Maziotis was our "Malcolm X." If so, I understand your zeal. But I didn't KNOW that... I am not sure anyone COULD... based on "how" you POST.

I have shared with you more than once that your posts are confusing. I am sorry, but they are. It's hard to keep up, at least for me, as to who you are "for" and who you are "against"... since you post SO MANY political threads. And from several different angles/perspectives. Regarding numerous conflicts in numerous places. We are not as apathetic to your plight as we are CONFUSED as to what exactly it IS. For ME, that fact that you still associate with Jehovah's Witnesses is confusing... in light of your "political" position(s).

So, again, I will ask that, rather than making a thread and posting a sentence or title, you consider EXPLAINING to (some of) us the POINT you wish us to "get." Now, I get that you might think we should KNOW, but... well... humor us, maybe. Consider that perhaps we DON'T, that we are "babes" to the world's politics and share with us what exactly it IS you wish us to get/understand... and perhaps WHY. THEN maybe OUR comments will make more sense to YOU.

I hope this helps, truly!

As always, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Indeed JWs are against politics and it seems that many here have inherited that 'disease' and do not talk about politics to much. Have you consider why are they against politics?

If Jesus was alive today he would immediately be labeled as an anarchist and a terrorist. He exposed the ruling class of his days. He took action to clean the temple. Are we his disciples? What is expected from us to do then?

Actually, no, luv (peace!). He didn't TOUCH the "rule" (or government). True, John the Baptizer exposed Herod's incest, but that's pretty much it.



That's an error. He took issue with those profaning the temple, yes, and drove them out... FOR A DAY. Surely, though, you don't think they STAYED out? Even so, the temple at Jerusalem is the not "temple" he cleansed - there, he just got caught up in his zeal. The "temple" that he is CLEANSING are those people who make up his BODY. This is why they are called "virgins," luv: because, as THEIR high priest, he gave HIS blood, on the basis of which such ones are "RESTORED" to a CLEAN state before the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies.



Depends on who you mean by "we". I don't mean to offend but surely you recall that he mentioned "FALSE christs" as well as false prophets. Now, you mean by the members here, I would have to say some, yes, some no... some, not sure yet. If you are including yourself in "we," then I would have to say why do you not do what he SAID... which is to LOVE your enemies... and PRAY for them (versus call them unsavory names as you did the woman who betrayed your comrade?



Imitate... and OBEY... him. Imitate him as to what he DID and DIDN'T do... and obey him as to he SAID... and more importantly, what he says to one NOW. And THEN, not only did he NOT publicly call Judas unsavory names, he didn't even openly expose that one to his disciples. He simply gave them a hint, which barely let the other 11 who were dining with him at the time let him know who he was talking about. He told them who it was, but so discreetly most of them didn't even get it.

If you're going to invoke Christ... and what he did/didn't do... HERE, luv, you should probably review some of those things. Because I'm not sure you have them correct. Some... not even close.

I hope this helps, truly!

As always, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

So the scribes and the Pharisees were not of the ruling class? They had the power to kill Jesus.