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May you all have peace!

For some time I have been pondering as to whether the angel/spirit who transmitted the "Revelation" to John on Patmos might in fact be "the Holy Spirit." The reason I pondered it is because of my dear Lord's saying that he would SEND this "spirit" to lead his Body "into all truth." Because the Revelation was given to the spirit/angel John saw, I sometimes asked, "Is THAT one "the holy spirit" that you spoke of sending, Lord?" I always... ALWAYS... was told, though, that while, yes, my Lord sent his angel, Michael, to show John MANY things... including the truth of what was to come... he himself was what mankind means when they speak of a "Holy Spirit." That he became such when he was (re)glorified and shown to be WORTHY to open the scrolls (in essence, opening truth!).

Even so, the thought stuck in my mind. Primarily, because I was concerned that perhaps I was WANTING it to be him... and in doing so MAKING that Spirit him... and so perhaps sharing FALSELY with you dear ones. As you can imagine, such a thought doesn't go away quickly. And so, I have brought it to him many, many times... so as to be SURE of what I was sharing. And I finally have received a response... a REASONING, which is how he often speaks, you might remember... that has put MY mind and heart to rest on the matter, once and for all. Here is what he transpired between us:

SA: "My dear Lord, I know you have told me, many times, that YOU are the glorified (Holy) Spirit. But I keep wondering whether I am hearing you [wrong], that maybe I am not wanting to change what I have shared with others, and that perhaps that Spirit is in fact your servant, Michael, who gave your servant John the Revelation. In closing the Revelation, John wrote, "The Spirit and the Bride keep saying 'Come!'" And I know that your servant, Michael, said to John "Come up here and I will show you..." Dear Lord, I do not want to share ANY error with your other servants, but only TRUTH, so please... please... you MUST help me resolve this, in MY mind and heart!"

Now, I had presented this matter to him before, many times. And each time he told me the same thing: that HE was the "Holy" Spirit and together with HIS Bride, HE extended the invitation. But I had never asked him to help me resolve it... once and for all. This time, though, I did... and he did. THIS time, he gave me more. First, he reminded me of his words:

"COME TO ME, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

"Let the little children COME TO ME..." Matthew 19:14

"If anyone is thirsty, let him COME TO ME and drink..." John 7:37-39

"You search the scriptures... yet, you do not want to COME TO ME"... John 5:39, 40

He said that even though Michael did tell John to "Come (up here)"... it IS he who issues the invitation to "Come!" Just as he did in the flesh, he still does know. Then, it was with his mouth of flesh and a "voice with words." NOW... it is with SPIRIT... IN SPIRIT (John 4:23, 24)... and so not with a voice "with words." As Lazarus, the writer of the letter to the Hebrews, wrote:

"For you have not approached (Moses and) something that can be felt and that has been set aflame with fire, and a dark cloud and thick darkness and a storm, and the blast of a trumpet and the voice speaking words ... you have approached a Mount Zion... and [Jesus] the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood." Hebrews 12:18-24

Now, I knew all of that, but still could not fully reconcile this matter in my HEART. And then, he told me something that did, finally, put it to rest. He said:

"Even if the spirit that I gave to reveal what is to COME to Jah'Na'as was the HOLY spirit... is he one to be worshipped? What did THAT one say, when Jah'Na'as tried to worship him?"

And then he reminded me of that spirit's words to John... twice... when John tried to WORSHIP him:

"... he said to me, “[u]You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of (Jesus]). Worship God. For it is the Spirit of PROPHECY that bears testimony to (Jesus).” Revelation 19:10

"But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God! Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near." Revelation 22:9, 10


And so, I learned that even IF the spirit that gave John the Revelation WAS a "holy" spirit... he/it was NOT to be worshipped. AND, that there was/is no ONE holy angel (spirit)... because there are MANY holy angels (spirits). Mark 8:3; Luke 9:26; Revelation 14:10

There is, however, only ONE... GLORIFIED and holy spirit. JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah), who Paul identified as that Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 And only ONE Truth... which One identified himself. John 14:6 And so... only one SPIRIT of Truth. That same One.

He then reminded me that the spirit that was to come was to be a COMFORTER and ADVOCATE:

"But the advocate ("parakletos"), the Holy Spirit, that the Father will send.. when MY name is invoked/reckoned up... will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." John 14:26)

... and that dear Jah'Na'as had reminded us that HE, JAHESHUA, was that Spirit Comforter/Advocate/Parakletos:

"My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate ("parakletos") with the Father - [Jesus] Christ, the Righteous One. HE is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2:1

But, then, after all of this my dear Lord said:

"But I have told you, child, MANY times, that I am that Holy Spirit. Even every time you asked me. Why did you doubt MY words [to you]?"

Of course, I felt horrible that I HAD doubted him, as we all do... but I couldn't actually explain WHY, in this instance and as to this matter. I mean, I could offer that the fact that the spirit that gave John the Revelation evoked in MY mind that perhaps that's what he (my Lord) meant when he said the Father and he would send "the spirit" (of the Truth). And that that spirit had told John to "Come [up here]". And that many believed there is third entity involved. But none of that explains why I doubted HIM. HIS words. Because I have not with regard to anything else, ever. So, I cannot tell you dear ones any more than I could tell him. I simply do not know. Except maybe that I allowed myself to overthink it... and, as a result, ALLOWED myself to doubt. Even so, my heart could not fully accept the other reasoning BECAUSE of why my dear Lord himself was telling me. And so, I couldn't resolve the matter in my mind... and heart.

Until now. Because now, EVERY question and reasoning that I have had has been looked at and answered.

There is no Holy Spirit other than the One who was deemed WORTHY to open the seals... the glorified Lamb, who is the HOLY One of Israel AND HOLY SPIRIT, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... so that ALL truth could BE shared, that those who belong to him COULD be led into it ALL. Because there is no other who is to be revered or worshipped... besides the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies. And while, like the angel who helped John, the first tells us that we are only to render sacred service to JAH... it is JAH Himself who tells us that we must listen to THAT Holy, set aside, to be revered and held in awe One (Matthew 17:5). He did not tell us to listen to some other spirit, ANY other spirit.

And so the spirit that helped John was only allowed to DO so... because of the direction and authority of One who gave HIM/IT that revelation. BUT... my dear Lord appeared to John BEFORE that spirit began.

I hope this helps. I hope it gives those with ears to hear a better understanding as to a/the Holy Spirit... Who it TRULY is... and why no other spirit is to be worshipped, except the MOST HOLY One Himself. I hope that if there is any who do NOT have ears to hear... yet... RECEIVE them, if they TRULY wish them... so as to hear the Spirit, Who is the HOLY One of Israel and HOLY SPIRIT, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... and HIS Bride... when they say to such one:

"COME! Take (MY) 'Life's' 'water' (John 4:10, 13)... which "water" is the holy spirit of God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... His life blood, breath, and seed... and is poured out from the innermost parts of His Son (John 4:13; 7:37-39; Revelation 22:1), that Holy Spirit, the One Whom He GLORIFIED so as to BE that Holy Spirit, the HOLY One of Israel... JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... FREE...

... and so come to and KISS that Son... so as to RECEIVE that "water"... if they are TRULY wishing... and thirsting... FOR it!

COME!


Servant to the Household of God, Jah'es'rah'El" ("those who seek JAH as their [Most High] God")... and all those who go with... and a slave of HIS Chosen One ("Christ"),

SA

I don't dispute any of this, but I do have a question. The wording of John 14:26 seems to indicate a third entity. Why is it worded this way? Why did Christ refer to himself in the third person? Just curious. I suspect this is where a lot of confusion actually comes from.

Amen, as to all that you have shared as to Jaheshua being the Holy Spirit.

Took me some time to come to understand this, but I had been given a second witness also in my mother who first said this to me (other than if Christ was saying such to me, but I was not ready to hear)... that Christ is the Holy Spirit. She never learned that from men.


But yes, there is no other person for us to listen TO, other than Christ. In the flesh when He walked in the flesh; and in the spirit as the Spirit, now that He "walks" as THE Spirit. We have no other mediator (there is ONE mediator between man and God, and that is Christ)





I can do this also. In fact, sometimes if I do not share something right away that I have heard, and hold onto it instead until I am 'sure', then I can begin to overthink what I have been given and begin to doubt what I heard from Him (or even that I DID hear from Him), since I am now also allowing other thoughts/opinions/doctrines/'accepted' understandings/etc, to compete with what He told me.



Peace to you,
your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy

I would like to add my Amen as well to all that was given and shared by our lord Jaheshua MischaJah.
Everything points to and IS Him. He is the fulfillment of everything we read and know about.

Peace to you all, love Kim

It's worded as it is TODAY, dear LQ (peace to you, dear one!)... because of the "false stylus" of the "secretaries/scribes" (Jeremiah 8:8). Unfortunately, once John died, many who came after him didn't have a CLUE as to the things those who wrote were "on" about.



Let me see if I can help you "see", as my dear Lord grants me to do so:

There is holy spirit... God's life force (His breath, blood, seed), His life ESSENCE... by means of which ALL life exists. It is a dynamic energy that grants life... and, when cut off, results in the lack of life. We have something like this: breath (without which we cannot live)... blood (without which we cannot live)... and semen (without which we cannot procreate life). Our life essence is limited: it is finite and can only grant more life finitely. It is flawed (imperfect) and so corruptible (it can carry sickness, disease, it ages, and it dies). HIS life force cannot die. It can be withdrawn from whoever/whatever He GRANTS (some of) it to, but they die, not His spirit/energy/life force.

When my Lord was brought forth FROM the Father... he was born of that life force; having come OUT of the Father, he was of the exact same SUBSTANCE... but not the STRENGTH. To help you understand, think of it as you and perhaps a son. You blood is "X"; however, your son, who has your blood, has a diluted version of it, by means of the blood of his mother. Our dear Lord, however, did not have diluted blood (holy spirit); his, however was not ALL "mighty"... as is the Father's.

When he came HERE... he had to give up almost ALL of the power that such blood (holy spirit) grants. Because he had to come in OUR likeness (sinFUL flesh) and had he done so in his original form and substance... no (earthly) vessel could have held him (HIS life force). He had to come in OUR form... to as to be TESTED (by our Adversary, as well as in other respects, ALL respects... as WE are). He had to do THAT... to PROVE our Adversary the liar he is. If he could prove that Adversary the liar... then he would inherit the kingdom of his Father, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Why did he have to prove the Adversary a liar? Because the challenge of the Adversary is that ALL of mankind are nothing but puny, whiney, greedy, weak turncoats, with absolutely NO real loyalty, and that as soon as JAH takes away His "hedge" about us... we not only crumble and fall... but will curse Him to His face. ALL of us.

Our Adversary based his "opinion" of us... on the first man, Adham... who did just that: not only cursed God (well, in essence), but sold his own wife and progeny TO the spirit entity that is Death (who "feeds" on that energy from JAH in order to live!)... so that HE could be "like" God: KNOWING (i.e., firsthand and intimately) life... AND death... and yet LIVE. Know what it is like to DIE... but not STAY dead, but LIVE. Which, given that he was willing to sell out his own flesh... would mean... what? What, for the entire creation, if Adham, a selfish man of FLESH... could get back to the Tree of Life and eat... and live FOREVER? Not good. Not that kind of power, not for such a selfish person. Think he would care about/for ANYONE? Hardly... and he proved that.

Which is what the Adversary accuses ALL mankind of being like. And, unfortunately, most ARE like that. Like ADHAM... not JAH. Would sell out our own flesh for the opportunity to live... FOREVER. Know death, yet live.

So... because of the Father's LOVE for us... He sent His Son. To save us, however, that Son would have to undergo the very say "test" that Adham did... but pass it. Thing it, if he came as HIMSELF... the Adversary would have accused JAH of "stacking the deck." Of COURSE, our dear Lord would prevail... if he was in his OWN body. BUT... put him in one of OUR vessels... and, well, let's see how well he does.

Well, he did it... and he did well. PART of what he did was to not only never make himself EQUAL to JAH... but make himself a little lower than angels... but also NEVER take glory for himself. EVER... while he was in the flesh. And although he could.

SO... when he referred to himself in the third person, he was, in essence, taking the "lower" seat. He knew he had not had his glory RESTORED... yet... nor did he PRESUME it would be. Because the final decision was with the Father AND because the decision would be based on whether my Lord FULFILLED his assignment. Which he had not done... YET (at the time we're talking about here). Even here, even when he KNEW he WOULD conquer... he remained humble... unpresumptuous... and waited for the FATHER to glorify him.

And THAT, dear LQ... is the MAIN reason why he is the One deemed WORTHY to open the scrolls: because he did not glorify HIMSELF... as Adham TRIED to do (be LIKE JAH... in ALL ways)... and the Adversary is still trying to do ("Fall down and do one act of worship to me"). EVEN when he pretty much knew he was going to accomplish the task... he also knew there was a CHANCE he might not:

"If it is your will... REMOVE this cup. Yet, not MY will but your will."

See, most to see that as my dear Lord wanting to NOT go through with what he did. But... he was in a vessel of FLESH, now... and that vessel was quite powerful. As ALL of ours' are. While the SPIRIT he was was totally fine with what he had to do (because he knew Death could NOT hold him if the Father didn't ALLOW it)... the FLESH he occupied did what ALL of ours' does in such instance: it fought death. It did NOT want to die. And he ALMOST gave in to it.

And had the Father conceded and let him off the hook... and he did ASK Him to, did he not?... then it would have all be for nought. But... rather than turning into a sobbing mess, pleading for his life (because he hadn't done ANYTHING wrong, after all!)... he held fast and fulfilled what he was sent here for. He did the FATHER's will... and not his OWN. Which will and fulfillment was to to save us. NOT from the Adversary... but from OURSELVES. From our own selfishness, haughtiness, and need for glorification. He took OUR shame... meaning, the shame we DESERVE... and SHOULD feel... upon and into himself. And was subjected to it... he, who never committed a sin... FOR us. We, who sin all the time. So that if we exercise faith IN him... WE don't have to BE ashamed. Because HIS blood can COVER our shame.

We, do, however, have to be humble before JAH... which he always... ALWAYS... was. Even to the point of not referring to himself as the One he HOPED to become... a GLORIFIED... and HOLY... Spirit. He was a spirit... who came to be among us as a man... and because he did not raise himself OVER JAH... or give in to his enemy and ours... or to his OWN desires... he was returned to that place, as that spirit... but with an even HIGHER and more revered name and place.

One way that WE show ourselves humble before JAH... is by LISTENING to the One He sent... TO save us. From Death. And from ourselves.

We should think: if the Son of GOD... not only emptied himself to come here and save US... but never, EVER... tried to place himself ABOVE JAH... OR take ANYTHING that wasn't (yet) GIVEN him... well...

Adham, on the other hand, did that: took something that he was warned NOT to take... in an effort to take something even GREATER... that was not HIS... yet. He didn't wait for it to BE given to him, but thought he could get it without going to the One who grants it.

That "something"... was everlasting life. It was NOT Adham's to TAKE... but JAH's... to GIVE. And my dear, dear, DEAR Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and HOLY Spirit... JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... knew that. And so, rather than take it, him being the SECOND most powerful being in all existence... he earned it. Gave his life FOR it. And so it WAS given him. As the firstborn... ETERNALLY... from the dead.

I hope this helps, dear, dear LQ.

As, always, peace to you... and to your household!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

I read this last night, Shelby. Thank you for responding. It's a lot to ponder over, but quite wonderful! Thank you for taking the time to reply.