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http://news.yahoo.com/family-sues-teach ... 58738.html

Associated Press By DAVE COLLINS
16 hours ago


Lots of very interesting, thought-PRO-voking comments from the public on cult{ures} of the world.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Interestingly enough:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... 4N-D_ldVSx

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I don't know about the law (of the world; individual countries/states/etc) to be able to answer the question asked above.


I do know that they are acting against what Christ taught (and teaches) on the matter. His word should be the only 'law' that matters to them; and yet, they do their own thing that is against what HE taught.

Matthew 5:43-48

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what ware you doing more than others? Do not even the pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."


Peace to you,
your servant, and a slave of Christ,
tammy

I think here in the U.S., the 1st Amendment trumps folks' hurt feelings over being ostracized by their family/former friends, dear Skals (peace to you!). If I were an attorney... and part of the world... I would take the matter all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and seek damages for my clients on the grounds of Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (IIED). Because I truly believe, having been a JW, that I could prove my case, EVEN in light of the 1st Amendment... because I would use the WTBTS' own arguments (against their opposers who sought to ostracize THEM from society back during the early part of the last century).

Thing is, it would be a civil matter, not a criminal one. And so, while there may be some harm/damages, there is no crime. No LAWS (on the U.S. books, specifically the Penal Code(s)) are being broken.

Keep in mind, it would be harder to win as to someone who joined as an adult. Regardless of whether they were misled/brainwashed or not. Brainwashing is hard to prove and when someone CHOOSES such a religion, in light and in spite of the plethora of information about the WTBTS out there... the court really can't find "brainwashing." Rather, it's really a matter of failure to do due diligence and check the religion out BEFORE joining. And someone's subsequent chagrin/hurt feelings isn't sufficient to show harm/damages.

On the other hand, if someone's family was literally broken up... custody of kids was lost... then their COULD be harm/damages. Or, if someone committed suicide... or lost a love one due to, say, the blood issue... one MIGHT be able to prove "wrongful death." I certainly believe both are worthy argument.

The money it would to bring such a case, though... whoo-whee.

Unless... one could find counsel willing to take the matter on contingency... or with just a "little" retainer (i.e., at least $10,000... to cover initial filings, court costs, etc.).

It was probably a bit easier for Candace Conti because of the current public opinion and outcry re child sexual abuse.. and the "evidence" that the WTBTS not only knew but did nothing to prevent FURTHER harm (let alone REPORT it... which now IS a law and one they MUST adhere to)... made that one almost a slam dunk. Her case is civil (vs. criminal) because it isn't about a crime against HER... but about their failure to exercise their duty with regard to such things. Counsel for Ms. Conti is very smart, IMHO, mainly for taking on the WTBTS (given their coffers). But his argument abilities are stellar... and that's really all it took: someone who could, by their argument, convince the judge that the case had merit in the first place, then the jury, that the WTBTS had a DUTY... to listen to Ms. Conti and perhaps protect those subsequent girls... which is what allowed place for Ms. Conti's suit.

Bottom line: I realize, even personally, how their practice of shunning/DF'ing can be painful. But the pain is mental/psychological... and so the "harm/damages" aren't easily discernable. Not like, say, the pain of a broken bone, severed arm, etc. It would take more than just an x-ray to prove damages were suffered. Like extensive psychiatric review... and probably over a number of years, with some kind of "tangible" manifestation OF the harm.

Sorry if that's TMI... but I hope it helps put it in a better perspective.

Peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

The quote are questions posed by people whom, when you compare the other cult story THAT THIS THREADS ABOUT, are the same questions one could ask about wt org and/ or any other cult{ure}.

It is not about Christ, for Christs sake.

It is/ was a comparative news item I thought others might be interested in, in its relation to wt cult{ure}. The Avon school system of things, is being sued, for reasons many cry about in regards to indoctrination and shunning when talking about wt.

with that said, i'll read ur posts now u 2.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

But this forum IS.

So you should not be surprised when someone (anyone) brings an article or situation around to what Christ teaches on the matter in their comment; be that a political event or a religious one or anything else.

The first article seems to have a valid legal point if the school indoctrinated youths, if there is supposed to be a legal separation of church and state. But that is not the same issue in the second article.


So if I may ask, what is the parallel that you are drawing between the two?

Peace,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

I think both dear tec (peace, luv!) and I "got" who posed the questions, dear Skals (peace to you, too, dear girl!). For us, though, virtually EVERYTHING is "about" Christ. There really isn't much that can BE asked... at least, not in these veins... that don't lead US back to him and what he said, directed, warned, etc.

Couple that with who most often visits HERE (members of his Body)... and you surely must understand that the lion's share of our comments are going to include him in SOME way. I apologize (sort of; I mean, for the "intrusion" on YOU) but that really is how it is (for us). We get, of course, that for some, such comments "grate" on the nerves... but that's pretty much on the one whose "ears" feel "pain" when we DO include him.

As you've probably seen us post, there is a cure for that [kind of] pain, though; however, one can only lead those with pained ears to [the One who DISPENSES] the "water." Even so, the one so led can only "drink"... if it is "opened" to him... or her. That's usually preceded by an initial bit of "curing" of the ear pain, though. Just enough so that such a one can HEAR... when the Spirit and his Bride says to THEM:

"Come! Take 'Life's' water... free!"

It is that "water," luv, that "cleanses" the CAUSE... and so HEALS... such "pain." So hearing the call to RECEIVE it might be a good thing (for the one suffering).

Peace... and healing... to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar (smiling at the cross-post)

Lol's back at cross post ; )


Peace to you both!

They have violated the law by using 'Hate Speech' in The Watchtower. One day they will be taken to court and their punishment will be great.

YES ANOMOS...and it is that reason, along with the fact that they destroy families, that moscow banned them years back. yet so many LOVE 'IT'.... google it doll, if you're so inclined.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."