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Peace to you all! Deep breath. Okay... FIRST... PLEASE know that this thread is NOT directed at ANYONE in PARTICULAR, but is for any who have ears to hear the truth that is being shared IN it. If you "see" yourself IN it... only you will know that, at least among US. But I am directed to share it... again... in THIS format (you will see what I mean in a bit).

Keep in mind... PLEASE... that I am going to share it the way I usually do: as I received it. So, if you're faint of heart, you might want to skip it. If not, please... read on.

A few mornings ago, my Lord came to me to express a matter of great concern to HIM (apparently, as he keeps having me share about it)... which I shared with dear Hubby first (which discussion with dear Hubby i will refer to herein as I told him I would and he said he didn't mind, given the potential to HELP other SEE what HE did as a result).

My Lord came to me and asked:

"Do these children REALLY believe me to be their Lord?"

By "children" he meant those who profess faith, belief, and even perhaps a union with him... including the "children" who visit here.

I didn't even have to think long, but I did have to respond honestly. Bcause I know the faith and belief of the "children" HERE to be sincere... and believe that of others is/could be, too, I responded... TRUTHFULLY...

"Yes, I think they do believe that, my Lord. I think they WANT you to be their Lord. At least, to the extent they want "the Son of God"... or perhaps even "Jesus," who they think is that Son... to be. They just don't REALLY know you because they haven't been told the TRUTH about you by those they've listened to for so long. So, they can really only go on what they THINK they know (about you)."

And then he asked me a question he has asked ALL of us, if we only took a minute to THINK about it. He said:

"Why do they call me 'Lord' but do not DO the things I say to DO?"

And he reminded me of a few things. "Small" things.

I couldn't answer his question, though. I mean, I don't KNOW why "they" don't.

So, I asked dear Hubby, "You love our Lord, yes?"

To which he responded, "Yes, honey, of course!"

Then I asked, "If you do... why don't YOU do the things he SAID?"

After a very long pause (during which I KNEW dear Hubby's feelings were a little hurt), he said, quietly, "I thought I WAS doing what he said."

I knew in an instant that dear Hubby was talking about partaking (of the bread and wine). And he was right - he does do that, and daily. BUT... that was only one of the things on the "list" my Lord said to me. So, when I ahared a few of the things my Lord shared with me with dear Hubby... he was quiet for a bit, again... and then he said something to the effect of, "Ohhhh, my goodness... I never THOUGHT of THAT! He's RIGHT!"

I will share some/a few of those things with you dear ones in a second, but only because I want to help you (who wish to) SEE. Before I do, I will ask you to consider: can you TRULY say someone is your LORD (meaning, master, owner, leader, teacher, guide, etc.)... if you DON'T do what that one SAYS? WhatEVER that one says you should/directs you to DO? Is doing what YOU want, rather than what HE wants and says, a TRUE indication of your belief in that relationship?

Okay, so maybe you believe you ARE doing what Christ says. MANY believe this. Like them, maybe YOUR belief is based on what others say he MEANS? Or... maybe you've even rationalized a bit, as they have, as what he "means", especially if it's something that you don't really WANT to do? And maybe you don't WANT to do it... because you aren't really "feelin'" it... or "hearing" it... or... and this usually the most prominent case... because of "how" you "think" it will make you "look"... to others; how OTHERS will "view" you?

Yet, if you DON'T do the thing(s) he said/says... can you TRULY say the One directing you IS your "Lord"?

Now, NOTHING of the few things I will share with you are burdensome, really, although that might depend on how YOU "see" it. To keep from overwhelming you, I will share as to some things you may already KNOW of... KNOW he said to do... but may not be DOING... so that perhaps you can be helped to SEE them BETTER, and perhaps put them in a (more) proper perspective/view... so as to give them the attention, credence, respect... and obeisance... they deserve.

Please keep in mind, these things are NOT from ME, not of MY words or directions to you. If Christ TRULY is your Lord, you will know they are HIS words, from HIM. Which is as it should be.

Let's start with this:

"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice. John 10:16

Now, regardless of what you believe about how many "groups," or "hopes," etc., or who you believe this "other sheep" to be... or who Christ was speaking to ABOUT these "other sheep"... you cannot miss that he said they would LISTEN... to HIS... voice... TOO. So, regardless, BOTH groups would listen to his voice. Thing is, when he said that he was alive in the flesh. So, he couldn't have been meaning listening by reading the Bible. The Bible wasn't compiled for several hundreds years after that. Also... he was going to die (in the flesh) and soon. SO... he couldn't have meant that he was going to go out and SPEAK to these people while he was ALIVE (in the flesh). Regardless, he said "they" would LISTEN... to HIS voice.

How about this:

Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me." John 15:4

Seems pretty clear: REMAIN in him. Which takes us to another direction from our dear Lord:

"... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. John 6:53-56

Do you see how this is going?

What about...

“You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you." John 13:13-15

Of course, he may not have washed our feet, literally... but he gave his life for us. Should we do for him what he did for us? COULD we? Or... can we just do what he said to do?

What about something like this:

"The Spirit and the bride say, ‘Come!’ Let the one who hears say, ‘Come!’ And let the one who is thirsty come! Let the one who wishes receive life-giving water as a gift.” Revelation 22:17

Now, if you know Christ, then you know he says what he means and means what he says... or else EXPLAINS/clarifies what he means and those his words pertained to. Is t it easy, though, to listen when others say, perhaps even when WE say (to ourselves), "Oh, he didnt mean THAT!"

If you are IN UNION with him, though, how can you NOT know what he meant... or say that he didnt meant what he SAID? True, some things are with regard to the spirit mot the flesh, but MANY things pertaining TO the spirit are MANIFEST by, in, and THROUGH the flesh, yes? For now, at least, 'cause that's largely what we have to work with?

For example, why WOULDN'T "Feed my sheep!" have a physical means of fulfillment... AS WELL AS spiritual one, if there are those among us who ARE physically hungry? If Christ PHYSICALLY fed the crowds, MOST of whom were following him NOT because of faith in him... but because they heard he WAS feeding folks physically... so that when he stopped most STOPPED following him... why would he not direct that those who CONTINUED to follow him be fed PHYSICALLY, AS WELL AS spiritually? Surely, if HE had compassion for those who turned out to be his ENIMIES, he'd want... teach... DIRECT... US... to have it for those he LOVES, yes?

And so when he says "Feed my sheep!"... do we OBEY... when we learn someone is PHYSICALLY hungry?

Of course, someone might say, as with washing feet, "Well, yes, but he didn't say that to US! He said it to Peter!" Which is TRUE... but if that's the rationalization one's going to use, then one must chuck ALL that he is recorded to have said. Because he didn't say ANY of it... to ANY of us... directly. At least, not while he was in the flesh.

If, however, we hear him say SOME of ít to us NOW... through the spirit... doesn't it ALL apply? Just as with the OLD Law, if you're bound to one, you're bound to them ALL? And since the NEW Covenant is a law of LOVE... does not our LOVE... FOR Christ "bind" us to HIS "yoke"?

How do we carry that "yoke", though? By willingly "shouldering" OUR part... FULLY... or by shoving our part, EVEN THOUGH LIGHT... over to him? Or perhaps even refusing to carry OUR part, at ALL!

What about... calling on his name? Can you really call someone your "Lord"... yet not acknowledge/use his NAME?

I am not judging anyone here, but only sharing... putting it out there... so that perhaps ones can SEE, if they wish to... what it MEANS... to do "just so." The things asked of the Body of Christ aren't huge, aren't burdensome, aren't oppressive. They are kindly - towards JAH, Christ, and our fellow man - and so "light" (in weight).

BUT... neither JAH nor Christ want us to DO... ANYTHING we don't WANT to do! Rather, they are looking for those whose hearts are as our dear Lord's was when HE said, "I WANT to!" As Jeremiah's was when that one said, "Here I am! Send ME!"

They are asking these things OF us... because it is part of the TRAINING... NOW... to be kings and priests in THEIR kingdom... LATER. If one cannot... does not... OBEY... even the tiniest of directions like washing another's feet)... NOW, though... HOW CAN SUCH A ONE BE TRUSTED... TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS TO... AND FULFILL THE OFFICE OF... KING... AND PRIEST... IN GOD'S KINGDOM??

Yet, obeying, even doing "just so", shouldn't be difficult. Because we were TRAINED to do that... by the WTBTS. And for most of our lives, for some. But their training was as to obedience to THEM and THEIR will, yes, under the guide of obedience to "God." But what did our Lord say?

"Do as they SAY... but NOT AS THEY DO. For THEY SAY... but do NOT DO."

And they SAY they're obeying God... and while they may be obeying THEIR god... "Jehovah"... they are NOT obeying the MOST HOLY One of Israel (JAH of Armies)... OR His Son and Christ (the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

But they started our "training" FOR Them. NOW, we must let THEM... FINISH it! And they can't DO that if WE don't LISTEN... and OBEY. STARTINH with the SMALL things, including those that ARE written!

I hope this helps, TRULY, and that those WITH ears hear... and get the SENSE of these truths. And that those who do not yet have them... but WISH them... be GIVEN ears so as to hear and get the sense of it, as well as when the Spirit and the Bride say to THEM:

"Come! Take 'life's water'... the only spirit of God... His blood, breath, and seed... which allows all those ANOINTED by it too hear and see ALL truth, including HIS Truth, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... Who dispenses it from within HIS innermost parts... FREE!"

I, SA, have shared these things with you, just as I received them from that One, my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

Peace to you all... and to your households!

Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all who go with, and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Okay, I'll take my own deep breath here. I know you're not asking for replies or discussion, but may be time for me to delve into some of these things with you. I don't really want to, but am feeling compelled, so I wanted to get something down here before I lose my nerve.

Did the Lord ask you to put this on the open board? If so, that is where I will reply.

He did, dear At (peace to you, dear lady!). Which is why the greeting was to all... and MY "deep breath" (I don't think I woulda felt the need SO greatly, elsewhere!) which says to ME, there is someone who may not be a "member" or something... but maybe reads the open board from time to time... OR maybe will be checking out the board before joining?... who can benefit. Someone or someones. Of course, anyone who doesn't feel safe/comfortable commenting here can always do so elsewhere (in a member or other in one more private room). There is always that choice... and no one should have a problem with that. That the initial information IS on the open board does mean ALL discussion, if there is any, has to take place here.

I hope that helps!

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Again, peace to you, all! I must address one more thing (and yes, dear At's comment (again, peace to you, dear one!) did raise a question in ME)... which question/thing my Lord and I did NOT discuss at the time... but have now. And that is whether there are any "exceptions" to what I've shared... to who such would be "for"... and the word of my Lord is, no, there are no exceptions.

He said that there are no exceptions... because it isn't AS to those who WANT to do... but cannot (perhaps due to some physical limitation). Rather, it is for those who call him "Lord"... but do not do the things he says... because they don't WANT to do such things... either because they don't like/want to do them... or because they do NOT listen to what HE says... or truly CARE what he says... and so finds/makes/accepts excuses for not doing so.

For those who WANT to, but cannot... he already knows what they WOULD do... if they COULD: it's already on their hearts. Just as NOT wanting to... is already on the HEART. Because the desire... or lack of it... starts IN the heart.

And he already knows what is in each one of us (even if WE don't know what is in our own selves). John 2:25; Matthew 9:4; Mark 2:8; Hebrews 4:13

And what of those who want to but think they can't... because of some kind of "opposition" from others/another? He said that was addressed: he that is ashamed of me before men, he will be ashamed of before the Father.

What of those who might face physical danger, though? Because, of course, I knew some would want to know about that!... and before I could even formulate the question, he said, first, that NO ONE can be taken by Death for HIS sake... if the Father doesn't ALLOW it (Job 1:12; 2:6). And then he said, "Did I not tell the children: what does a man TRULY gain... if he gains the WHOLE world... but FORFEITS his life?" And I knew by "life," he meant the (potentially eternal) life of the spirit.

So, I hope this helps any who might be concerned about these things. For me, trusting in JAH... and looking at/listening to His Son, the HOLY One of Israel, has quelled such "concerns" in me, for years. JAH is righteous and requiring something of someone that they could NOT do... would be unkind and unloving... and thus UNrighteous. It would negate His mercy... and deny His love.

One would only need look at Christ, though, to know what JAH WOULD expect... and from whom.

Again, peace to you, all!

Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all who go with... and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Good evening and peace to you all as well...

I appreciated and needed every bit of this. Thank you for sharing this and praise JAH and his son Jaheshua that his mercy and patience is still so great upon us.

Although all what was shared is in truth I appreciated this part especially...

Now, if you know Christ, then you know he says what he means and means what he says... or else EXPLAINS/clarifies what he means and those his words pertained to. Is t it easy, though, to listen when others say, perhaps even when WE say (to ourselves), "Oh, he didnt mean THAT!"

My Lord has reminded me in regards to the seriousness of this statement that why in the world when lives could be at stake would our Lord ' beat around the bush' as to what he means? He doesn't play games with regards to things he says.

But like myself who was almost a born in, something that I and many of you here as well may need to think about is this...
We relied our whole lives on man/ the WTBS to interpret what Jah/Christ mean when they speak.
Terms the WT prides themselves on using when they don't really have a clue truly of its meaning but convinces us by saying...

Nevertheless, therefore, evidently, most likely, apparently, however, modern-day understanding, in essence, and I'm sure there's more.

What this did is took Christs exact words and meaning and changed them to something else. Something they wanted to either take credit for as to understanding OR change what CHRIST truly meant because they do not WANT to obey his words!

We got so used to it we justified and still do by saying, " Thats not what he really meant".

We and I need to completely shed this baggage.

Then it will be clear that what our Lord says...HE MEANS!

I hope this helps as it has me! Love and peace to you all again this evening,
Your sister and fellow servant of Christ, Justmom

Well, let's see, I guess I'll start with this:


I don't call him by his name on the board because I'm not exactly sure what it is yet. I know it is not Jesus. In my mind, at this point, I see it as Jahshua or Yahshua, but that may be just because I pronounce it Yahshua, and it is easier for me to spell it like it sounds. (If I am writing the name of the town I live in, I have to mispronounce it in my mind or I won't be able to spell it!)

I have not been taught directly by Christ what the exact spelling is, although I have no reason to doubt that you are right about it, and my spirit certainly does not bear witness against it. I have heard him called a lot of variations of it, and they don't bother me, except when I hear someone say something like Yu HU shua, that grates on my nerves a little bit.

So, maybe it is better for me to use it, even if it's not quite right, than not to use it at all; I don't know. When I speak with him, I call him Yahshua.

You have said that He told you "all that I will tell you is written". That may be just for you and not the rest of us, but I have not been able to find Jaheshua written anywhere apart from the people on this board so far.

I am quite sure I am not the only one with this dilemma right now, so feedback from all the hearers would be appreciated.

While waiting for others to weigh in (and I hope others DO!), may I suggest this, dear, dear Ataloa (mornin' and peace to you, dear one!): worry not so much about the spelling... as about the pronunciation? When you say/hear the name, the "J" SOUNDS like a "Y" - the sound is "yuh"... as in "yellow". In Spanish (a "child" of Latin), the "J" is pronounced like an "H" (i.e., La Jolla is pronounced "La HOYAH").

You have seen the name "Yahweh", yes? That name is PRONOUNCED the SAME way, if spelled "Jahweh" - the "J" is NOT hard (as in "Jehovah"... which actually would be ACCURATELY pronounced at "Yah-Hovah"). Why doesn't the WTBTS at least pronounce THAT word accurately? Because... and I mean NO offense to ANYONE... but they believe their members to be stupid. No, seriously. Not just ignorant, but stupid. That they wouldn't GET (and most WOULDN'T)... that the "yodh" is pronounced with the "J" sound (versus a "Y")!

Yet, they pronounce it such when stating words like "hallelujah" (haa ley loo yuh)... and even "Jah" ("Yah")... yes?

But some people are SO caught up in walking by SIGHT... that such sight gets in the way of their HEARING. Again, can't tell you how many folks I've run across who say, "La JOL-la"! Or "San JO-see"!

With all of that said, you stated:



But are you SURE? Because what WE are saying is very similar to, if not the SAME as:

Yeshua
Y'Eshua
Y'Shua
Yehoshua

... and many other like names.

We just use the CORRECT transliteration of the Hebrew "yodh"... which is a "J", not a "Y" - there really was no "Y" in the Hebrew language. No vowels at all... and the English "well, the "y" acts as a consonant OR a vowel" wasn't true for Hebrew. Actually, for Aramaic, which was the ORIGINAL language in which the OT was written. It was mistranslated by the false stylus of the scribes into Greek... THEN... back into a (more modern) form of Hebrew. (BTW - the WTBTS' and others teaching that Aramaic was a hybrid of Hebrew and Chaldean is entirely false. Israel spoke Aramaic BEFORE ever going to Babylon... and some kept that language tendency after the Jews release from exile. Some DID speak a hybrid, but that was NOT Aramaic. Aramaic PRECEDES Israel's time in Babylon).

But just to maybe help you see that others DO use the name, but perhaps a different spelling, here is something on Wiki:

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_(name)

Note, while a LOT of what is stated is inaccurate (and, unfortunately, I don't have time to go into the whole article), I would like to address some of the initial comments, both for accuracy and inaccuracy. To wit:



This is ALMOST accurate. It is a common form of the name "Yehoshuah"... but THAT name is an error. Both are INTENDED, however, to be an alternate name of what WE term as "Joshua." They are errors because the "e" did not exist at the time the names were first termed. In fact, NO vowel existed... or was used. The "e" is an ASSUMPTION, existing for two reasons:

1. When INITIALLY translating from the Aramaic, some thought God's name was too sacred to utter. So, EVERYWHERE that name occurred... and initially it was with an "a" SOUND (again, there were no vowels)... they took the "vowel" OUT. So, the name of GOD (from which the name of our dear Lord COMES)... went from "JaHVeH" (in PRONUNCIATION)... to "J'HVeH". Or... "Y'VeH". Hence, when writing the name "Joshua"... or "Jaheshua"... it became "J'eshua". OR... "Y'eshua." But that wasn't enough, no. No, SOMETIME decided that ALL potential to utter the sacred name of God had to go... so it went from "Y'eshua"... to "Y'shua." When translating from the Greek BACK to the NEWER Hebrew... the vowel SOUND was returned. Except... the translators didn't UNDERSTAND that there were TWO vowel sounds missing: the "Yah" AND the "eh". So... the name "Joshua"... or "Jah eShua"... went FROM "Jaheshua" (Joh-eshua")... TO "J'shua"... or "Joh-shua". Or... "YEH-shua." The entire "A" sound ("JAH")... was CHANGED... to "YEH". Which was "okay"... because one wasn't REALLY full on PRONOUNCING the sacred name of God. And, more importantly...

2. This occurred because the ADVERSARY was TRYING to obscure, bury, the name of the MOST HOLY One of Israel! And so HIS agents... HIS children... the "offspring" of him and HIS angels... did this thing! They INTENTIONALLY attempted to hide the TRUE name of God... and so the TRUE name of the SON of God... from mankind. And... they were ALLOWED to do so, by the MOST HOLY One Himself! Why? Two reasons: (1) so that the TRUE name could not be defamed! and (2) so that the TRUE name could be REVEALED... BY the Son! Because it is not TO BE uttered by just anyone... but only by those to whom that name is REVEALED... BY Christ, the Holy Spirit! So, their evil motive only worked out JAH's will... which is often the case (think, the brothers of Joseph and their selling him away; think, the attitude of the Pharaoh of that time; think, the bad spirit ultimately given to King Saul; think, the madness of Nebuchadnezzar; think... Judas - on MANY occasions, the evil intent of others serves to work out the WILL of JAH).

Moving on...



This is partly true: THOSE names... "Yeshua" and "Yehoshuah" may do that. But the name "Jah eShua" ("YAH eSHUA")... does NOT. The corresponding name is "Joshua"... in English... spelled "Joshua". If one were to pronounce that name with the SOFT "J" (or "yodh"), then it would SOUND like... "Yah Shua". Which is actually the ACCURATE pronunciation OF the name "Joshua." In English, however, we pronounce it with the HARD "J"... for "JOH Shua".

There is NO Greek transliteration of the name "Joshua" to English. It is "Joshua" in both tongues!

The Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) appears in some later books of the Hebrew Bible. Once for Joshua the son of Nun, and 28 times for Joshua the High Priest and (KJV "Jeshua") and other priests called Jeshua – although these same priests are also given the spelling Joshua in 11 further instances in the books of Haggai and Zechariah.

While inaccurate, this is actually WONDERFUL! Because it is ALMOST closer to the TRUTH! The problem? That dang "e"! The SOUND was NOT "eh" (as in "Jeh shua")... but "AHH"... as in "JAH shua". Again, again, the second sound (which IS an "eh" sound)... is missing. But this is even CLOSER... than "Yeshua"!



And THIS is what I have been referring to: the absence of letters, etc., which CHANGED the SOUND altogether. Here, it shows an apostrophe where a SOUND (the "ah" sound, and NOT the "eh" sound!) USED to be. Now, I'm not sure why they are calling the "vav" (or "waw") a "semivowel"... as that is actually a consonant. I THINK the person opining is confusing the "vav" (or "waw") in the Tetragrammaton... with the YODH (which, because of its PRONUNCIATION - the "Y" sound - has been misRENDERED as a semi-vowel... versus as the full on consonant "J", which is actually IS...).

So in the name HERE (spelled, "y'hoshuaʿ")... there is the yodh, the ABSENCE of a vowel SOUND (represented by the apostrophe), THEN a "he"... another vowel SOUND (rendered as on "o" or "oh" sound)... THEN the "vav" SOUND ("wuh" or "wah", made up from the "ua"... which when said RAPIDLY... SOUNDS like "wah"... versua "you-ah"... due to the placement of the SOUND... AFTER the "sh" SOUND (made by the "shin" consonant... or the "sh"). So that you have a "shwah" SOUND.

(NOTE: I had the privilege of being taught English the PHONETICS way, versus however they're teaching folks today... and so I TOTALLY understand what my Lord is telling me: the words are based on SOUND, NOT sight! So, when one hears HIM state them, the LETTERS make sense! I digress.)

It also differs from the Hebrew spelling Yeshu (ישו) which is found in Ben Yehuda's dictionary and used in most secular contexts in modern Hebrew to refer to Jesus of Nazareth, though the Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) is generally used in translations of the New Testament into Hebrew[4] and used by Hebrew speaking Christians in Israel. The name Yeshua is also used in Israeli Hebrew historical texts to refer to other Joshuas recorded in Greek texts such as Jesus ben Ananias and Jesus ben Sira.[5]

That name, "Yeshua"... is CLOSE (but no cigar, as it is still missing another syllabic SOUND, the "eh"). Now, if they said "Yeh eh shua"... THAT would be closer. If they said, "Yah eh shua"... even closer! If they SPELLED it with a "J"... versus a "Y"... even CLOSER. But to SAY it, literally, the "eh" is ALMOST silent. It ISN'T... but it isn't PRONOUNCED. Hence... "Jaheshua"... comes OUT as "YASHHH YU WAH... or, as my dear Lord says it: YA ESHU AH".

It is SOUND, dear At... NOT spelling/letters!

In English the name Yeshua is extensively used by followers of Messianic Judaism, and some Christian denominations, who wish to use what they consider to the Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus.[6]

And so, you see, we are NOT the only ones to know it or use it. We know and use it more ACCURATELY than some others, yes, but I don't think we are the ONLY ones. We who do may not be MANY... but then, that shouldn't be a surprise: neither JAH nor Christ are going to put their names out there to be sullied... reproached... an even generally blasphemed (as the names "Jehovah" and "Jesus" are!). JAH's name is HOLY. SANCTIFIED. HALLOWED. Not cursed, damned, or taken up in vain. And since Christ's name INCLUDES the name of the MOST HOLY One of Israel ("JAH Saves"... "Salvation of JAH")... which is why he said OF it, "You will not see me again UNTIL you say 'blessed is he... who come IN THE NAME OF JAH'".

I know, I know: most Bibles say, "in the name of God." Think, though, dear one: what is that NAME?

Our dear Lord WANTS us to THINK... to USE our "god-given" reasoning abilities... if we CAN'T hear him! Otherwise, we only need listen to HIM... and HE will tell us! (Not yelling - jus' emphasizing - LOLOL!).

But if you Google the name "Jaheshua," while you will find my references most often, you WILL find others who know and use it. It's even included on this site of baby names!

http://www.just-think-it.com/sbn/m_j11.htm

LOLOLOL!

But as with ANYONE's name, dear one, the more you USE it... the more you become familiar with the one to whom it belongs, yes? I mean, we know you here at dear "Ataloa." How much closer of a relationship we might have, though, if we were to call one another by our TRUE names (as many of you do me)? Of course, AFFECTION would prompt us to address one another as, perhaps, "brother" or "sister"... given our union with one ANOTHER, by means of our union with Christ... but wouldn't even THAT (addressing one another as "brother/sister") have more DEPTH and MEANING... if we knew WHO are "brother/sister" WAS? Same here: just calling a man "father" is good, yes, and endearing. But if one doesn't even know the NAME of one's father...

I mean, almost any man can father... and so be called "father"... by a child, yes? And such happens often in our world. If someone were to ask them, though, "WHO is your father?"... yet, they didn't know his NAME... where would that leave them? Wouldn't they WANT to know, at least after that?

"MY father is...John, the carpenter!" "MY father is... Timothy... who lives on..." MY father is... Joe!"

Or would they rather say, "MY father... is the father. His name isn't important, though"?

And if such one were to call out, when in need... or even danger... "FATHER!!"... who would answer? WHICH father??

I think you understand.

And finally, the term "MischaJah"... is merely a spelling of the SOUND I hear when my Lord refers to himself as what WE might spell as "messiah". WE say "mih sigh ah." HE says... "mee'scha Yah."

So, again, it is all about SOUND... not spelling. And what I SPELL... is what I hear my Lord SAY... and how HE says it is spelled in OUR language (English).

I hope this helps, truly. NOT to convince you of anything... but maybe to give you some things to think ABOUT... so as to maybe know what to ASK about. That's it, that's all.

Again, peace to YOU... and may you be GIVEN ears to hear our dear Lord say his own name to YOU... if you so wish them!

Always, YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Thanks for sharing these things, yet again!

Here we see yet another example of WTBTS twisting the Bible, specifically, the words of the Christ.

John 15:4 - vast majority of translations, including Kingdom Interlinear
μείνατε ἐν ἐμοί,
Remain in me

John 15:4 (NWT): Remain in union with me
There is NO SUPPORT whatsoever for inclusion of the words "union with". The old NWT doesn't even have brackets around it, and the Reference version has no footnote. This is an egregious 'adding to' the words written.

Ok, enough of that rant.

There are other things Christ said.

Luke 14:26: If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.

Luke 14:33: In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.

I've been pondering the latter one for some time now. Some translations say "renounce". The greek word means "withdraw from", "take leave of", "renounce", "send away". Is this telling us that we should all get rid of our possessions?

Matthew 19:37 and Mark 10:21 say something similar:
Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

The man grieved over this, then it is written:
Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!"

These, too, are things he said to do. But, I'm not sure to what extent. He said "everything". I've always been taught that he was not advocating a life of poverty, but instead that we should lead simple lives and not be striving after material things, and be willing to walk away from everything we have instead of being attached to them, perhaps as Lot's wife was. But, if we are here saying that he was clear in what he said, then we should be taking these literally, no?

Not trying to be difficult. Just striving to understand and find the right balance.

~LQ

You be the judge, dear, dear LQ (mornin' and peace to you, dear one!). Some of us have already responded to that call... and as a result have had all pretty much replaced! LOLOL!

Trust... and faith. His promise is that he IS with us, yes? So, WHATEVER it is we "fear"... that "prevents" us... from serving him... we really have no grounds TO fear, if we TRULY have faith in him.

Not that this was directed at/to you (it truly wasn't, I promise!), but remember, also, that he PROMISED (and I share this because I am thinking of you NOW): whatever we ask the Father in HIS name... would be done/given us. I can't imagine then, that asking, for example, to preserve our families WITH US... would be denied. I mean, it wasn't denied Noah... Abraham... RAHAB... Cornelius... and so many others, some who didn't really even know the Father fully, yet. Why would it be denied those who DO, then... or are truly TRYING to?

Faith, dear brother. Faith. The ASSURED expectation of the thing HOPED for (based on) the EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION of realities (here, that it has already been done for others)... thought not BEHELD (you cannot see the reality with your EYES... yet!).

May JAH be WITH and BLESS you and yours!

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

And so, you see, we are NOT the only ones to know it or use it. We know and use it more ACCURATELY than some others, yes, but I don't think we are the ONLY ones. We who do may not be MANY... but then, that shouldn't be a surprise: neither JAH nor Christ are going to put their names out there to be sullied... reproached... an even generally blasphemed (as the names "Jehovah" and "Jesus" are!). JAH's name is HOLY. SANCTIFIED. HALLOWED. Not cursed, damned, or taken up in vain. And since Christ's name INCLUDES the name of the MOST HOLY One of Israel ("JAH Saves"... "Salvation of JAH")... which is why he said OF it, "You will not see me again UNTIL you say 'blessed is he... who come IN THE NAME OF JAH'".

Dear A... With love and peace to you this morning...

This comment is so true as my Lord revealed this to me on an occasion when we were driving home from my nieces funeral who died at 36 and her own mother, grandparents ( except one) cousins, siblings did NOT GO because it was NOT a JW funeral! I could not believe it. ( the community could not believe it)

I was praying, crying asking that they be forgiven for such gross lack of love. I apologized for the reproach they are bringing to your name and it is then when he told me...

" They are not reproaching my name in any way child. It is the name Jehovah they are making look terrible. He is the one they worship, which is why they do and act the way they do. Although my true name is right under their noses in their bible more than any other bible ( psalms 68:4 and all throughout psalms where it says JAH) I do not allow them to know it because they do not want to KNOW me nor my son."

I felt much better as I realize all the terrible things in the world done in the name of God and religion!
None of it is because JAH or CHRIST tell them to do these things.
The WTBS does and teaches what they do in name of Jehovah. And it is by their fruits that we recognize they cannot be the truth.

Hope this helps as it did me.
May you be given ears to hear and use our Fathers true name Jah, the true father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the name of our Lord Jaheshua. It is from THEM ALONE that Lifeswater, the gift of Holy Spirit is dispensed FREE!

Love your sister and fellow slave of Christ, Justmom

Thanks for that story, justmom, and to Shelby for all that information. I have read through it a couple of times, but will need a few more. Twenty years ago when I was in the watchtower, I would have loved all that stuff; but that was before all my brain cells started dying off.

Well, this is what was shown to me after I was struggling to understand and FULLY accept.

We have of course Yeshua, a common Hebrew name/spelling.

Spelled often as Y'eshua (with the apostrophe... although that has been shortened as Shelby stated above as Y'shua, with the apostrophe still, but without the e)

In any case, this is the 'aha' moment for me, when my Lord showed me this:

Yeshua
Y'eshua
Yah'eshua

Y
Y'
Yah


Look at those names in reverse, and you can see how the full name got shortened to an abbreviated form, and then eventually lost the abbreviation and/or the 'e' and became Yeshua.

Now, I saw it as spelled with the Y only because I had been thinking about the accepted name Yeshua, and that is how my Lord showed me the progression. I think I needed simple, and that is what I received, so I am sharing with you also.

Of course, I completely understand the J, with the Y sound, so that we have Jaheshua, and that is how I see His name also; though pronouncing with a Y.

...


As well, there is also the name Jah (the name of God, albeit shortened), in the names of the prophets (and as JM pointed out above halleluJAH).... though some prophets and such had the name El (the title God) in their name. Such as IsraEL.

I linked to a site that has all those names and their meaning, on this board, and I think you saw and looked at that Ataloa.

Of course, my favorite for connecting the two... title and name... is Elijah:

My God is Jah.

EL i JAH


But this helped me to see that many of the prophets had something in their name to identify with God (El) or His name (Jah), sometimes spelled iah instead of jah; but the pronunciation is the same.


Hope that helps.

Peace,

tammy

Did I? I don't remember.



Yes I SEE that! Oh that does help a lot. Thanks Tammy.

Praise JAH for our very clear, concise, and succinct TEC!! LOLOL!! THANK you, dear sister for helping our dear At "SEE" - LOLOLOL!

The greatest of love to you BOTH!

YSSFS of Christ,

(A VERY appreciative) Shellamar

Oh, I probably would not have understood if I hadn't read all the other stuff first. Thank you.