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I`m dying laughing here...You two are Hillarious.





I think sKally and Shelby would be great on Six Screens together..
sKally had me friggin laughing the last time she was on..
I don`t know what Rick would do with both of you there..
I`d dam well be listening in though..LOL!!..

I think the two of you would enjoy coffee together..
Your both straight talkers..
I think the misunderstandings would melt away,if you met in person..

I`m definitely listening in when you two go on Six Screens..
I wouldn`t miss that!..No Way!!..LOL!!..

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If that is what you "trust," then most likely it never WILL be... for YOU. Because you won't be able to recognize it when it is. I don't mean that as a put down; I mean that as a truthful reality. WE are the ones who stand in our OWN way... between falsehood and truth. Because we tend to WANT falsehood... MORE than we want truth. Because falshood can be "soothing", even pleasing (to the ear). Truth, not always so much.



I hope not, though I am sure it has in some instances.



I know exactly what you mean. And you are right! It CAN'T be... by us (humans). And certainly not by ME. Not "much", anyway. Which is WHY... I must depend ON the Truth to speak it TO me.



I understand. I have learned (over just the past year or so), that MOST think this. Which is why MOST... CAN'T see Christ: they don't BELIEVE he exists, not REALLY! Or... they don't GRASP... that HE is the Truth. Believing Truth (or truth) to be an illusion is no different than religious folks who cannot grasp ANY part of science... or science-oriented folks being unable to grasp ANY part of the spiritual. You can see... or hear... something... or someone... YOU don't believe even exists! And it's not that your BRAIN won't allow it - your HEART won't allow it!



Sure I can! And there have been those who've known him better than I have! Many! But once one COMES to know him... TRULY know him... they know him the same as all OTHERS who know and have known him. Because he is the SAME to them all!



Whoa! WHOA! I... don't... want... you... or... ANYONE... to... believe... ANYTHING... I... say... dear... Skally! I put it OUT there, yes! Whether others hear OR refrain. Where you believe what I say... ANYTHING I say... is up to YOU. DO... or DON'T. I am NOT trying to "make disciples." I am simply doing MY "work"... in the hopes of saving MY household! I cannot save you or yours - THAT... is on YOU... and between YOU and Christ. Not ME, you, and Christ!



(Shaking head) Whoa, again, luv! For the LIFE of me, I don't know where you get that. I have NEVER said that! I don't even HEAR God... except very rarely. Seven times, thus far. So, already, you're lying on ME. Do you see that? You are stating something... and trying to get others to see/think *I* stated something... that I have/did NOT.



Skally... WHERE did you EVER read/hear me say THAT?? You don't have to trust a SINGLE thing I "say"... and you can question what I share all you WISH to! ANYONE can! I am NOT the one "telling" you these things... that you "have" to trust ME... and how dare you question what "God" is telling ME... or that He is leaving YOU clueless (He is NOT!)... and CERTAINLY NOT that you... or ANYONE... is simply not as worthy in "God's" eyes as I am! If you are HEARING these things... you are NOT hearing them from ME! So perhaps you might want to take a moment and consider where... or better, from WHOM... you ARE hearing these things!! I can promise you: it ain't me. I am not even sure it's God OR Christ. I can't imagine why THEY would tell you such things. BUT... I know of one who WOULD tell you. Please... check as to WHO you're LISTENING to!!



And I just shared it with you, dear, dear Skally. I have NOT said such to you... nor do I THINK it! On ANY level! Girl, if I THOUGHT I was so much "better" than you... or anyone else... I would even BOTHER with this! I would be like "Hey, I'm ALL that, so let them get it the same way I did! I ain't sharin' NUTHIN'!" Instead, I come here and share it... just as I receive it... and take the "punches" that come with doing that. Again and again. Have been. For close to two decades now. Naw, girl, if I thought I was "all that," there is NO way I would let you and others "talk" to me the way you do! I would be like, "Do you know who you're talking to?!" LOLOLOL!

I am YOUR servant, Skally... but I won't lie to you... or sugar-coat what I DO say. If you knew me in "real life"... you would know that.



I can... and do, luv. I promise you. That you can't believe it... or receive it... is not on me. It's on those who trained you to reject truth, not "preach", teach, or say it.



I am SURE that there are those... including some here... who have asked ABOUT me, dear one. SURE of it. Else... they're fools. And I KNOW some of these dear folks aren't fools. So, I think THEY would know what I'm all about. I have NOTHING to hide, so you are MORE than welcome to ask them. Either here, on the open board OR privately. Whichever makes you/them more comfortable.



LOLOLOL! Of COURSE he does!

ya know, like how he tells you about others lives....does he tell others about his child shelby?

I can't see why He wouldn't... through His Son... if others ASKED. And I am SURE some others have asked, luv! LOLOLOL!



Now THAT I can't say. I mean, why WOULD He?



I know what He tells them, luv, for the most part... through His Son... because that Son has told ME (of COURSE I asked! LOLOLOL!). He tells them that, "Yes, she's a little blunt, sometimes too blunt - but be patient with her, she loves you... and I love you and she's MY servant so don't you worry about HER: she is doing MY work and I will ALWAYS give you proof of that. YOU, though... look at ME, not HER... and listen to ME, NOT her... because I am your leader, NOT her. SHE is doing the work I've given HER. YOU... must do the work I've given YOU."

Do they all LISTEN to him regarding that? My understanding (from him)... and my observation (from what they do/don't do)... is, no. They don't. Unfortunately, most, after hearing him say this to them, turn right back around... and look at/listen to me. Which is why I HAVE to take care, dear one. I KNOW they do this.

But they don't belong to ME; they belong to my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). Who received them from the Father. They are HIS. Whatever I do to THEM, then, I do to HIM. And whatever I DON'T do to them... I don't do to/for HIM.

This is absolutely NOT a game with me, dear Skally. Lives are at stake. Most importantly (to ME)... those of MY household, as well as my own.

I am not a psychic, or a spirit medium, or a clairvoyant, or a charlatan, or a false christ. I am a servant. To God, to His Son... and to His Household, Israel, and those who go with "her." I did not choose this position - I was called to it. But I openly, willingly, readily, heartily... and gratefully... accept it.

I hope that helps, truly.

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Sadly, knowing him, I think he'd say the same thing as to you, dear one (peace!). Not that he ever has, but I think he would say that about most folks who would say that about him - LOLOLOL! Now THAT would be a pair up (winks at the dear Sher'f - peace, luv!): Doug and Skally. HOOO-WHEEEE! LOLOLOL!

Peace, dear Skals... and you, too, dear, dear Sher'f!

Your servant, both, and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar, who really was serious (about sixscreens, if that'll help you any)

Well, this Saturday evening, 4:30 PACIFIC TIME, Sixscreens will be doing their weekly conf calls. I'll clue you in closer to Saturday, okay? Visit his site to get familiar with how the calls work. WILL BE FUN GIRL!! TELL DOUGIE!! LOLOLOLOL

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Yea, he and i go way back. it's all good though. but he can still kiss it! see, there ya go again shelbs...me and da fark have history darlin', so i CAN declare he kiss my ass. he would too!! lolololol kissing ass is an old exjw passtime! ask cedars!!

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Hey Shelby..

.......Doug and sKally??!!..LOL!!..



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Not man-y can handle the Naked Apostate shelbs. doug i know for sure would drop in two minutes. lolololololo age IS a factor woman!!!

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

s-Kally

Yes, I got it! I take no offense to any lack of sugar coating. Telling it like you see it is better than not. Thank you.


Been there and done that. I've moved past that to the acceptance phase. The last bit is walking away. It doesn't just affect me, which is really where my issue lies. The second I tell my family I'm out, it affects them, too. And from experience, anything out of my mouth that goes contrary to WTBTS teaching is met with extreme resistance from my wife. I don't think resistance is even the right word. It goes beyond that. She has stopped just short of calling me apostate in recent months. To make matters worse, my son recently got appointed an MS. I'm proud that he's a good kid and take his responsibilities seriously, but that just complicates things for me. If my family were not a factor, I would have walked away already. I am constantly reminded of this with these words:

He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.

And I'm torn. So much to lose. (To which my own response is: so much to gain!) I know! I know!


Shelby,

Don't EVER be afraid to speak with me with candor. Tell it like it is. I can take it. As I just mentioned to s-Kally, I do not take offense to that at all. My statement, "Let the rebuking begin..." was to show that I expected such candor, and perhaps even more than all of you have offered.

I'm taking time to ponder your post. I won't respond just yet. Thank you, as always, for sharing.

Supberb OUTLAW!!! Nicely done brah! ka blammy indeed!!!

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

lq,



Pardon me, but she is a grown ass woman. She will have to figure her own self out, soon. She just doesn't know it yet. FOCUS ON YOUR KIDS.

Think of it this way: you will be demonstrating by your walking action that you are NOT a weak man. Staying there continues to feed your weakness to not walk away, for good. YOUR KIDS WILL WITNESS THAT AND ONE DAY IT WILL HIT THEM THAT YOU WERE STRONG IN LEAVING, NOT WEAK. THAT INDEED YOU DID THE RIGHT THING FOR YOURSELF. R WE NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON WE KNOW? HOW CAN YOU BE A GOOD FATHER IF YOU BECOME SO WEAK? [dang crapslock!! ]

Have your wife join me and shelby saturday on the conf call. lolol we will 'encourage' her.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Maybe here's the thing that should be said to you, dear LQ (peace to you, luv!):

- If you want to leave the WTBTS/religion, but DON'T want to have a relationship with God/Christ, then the advice to just leave and start a new life WITHOUT that is sound. One should DO that... IF that's what one TRULY wants.

- If, however, one wants to have a relationship with God and Christ, a TRUE relationship... and not just one built on man's doctrines, theologies, intepretations, and tenets, then one must leave religion. Because the ONLY "mediator" between God AND such one... is Christ. True, one can have the ILLUSION of a relationship with God... without Christ and through religion... but there is a reason why most who DO feel the relationship to be "empty" and themselves "hearing" no one, even in answer to their prayers: because RELATIONSHIPS must involve AT LEAST TWO individuals... and such relationships do not. They FEEL empty... because they ARE empty. And no one answers their prayers... because there is no one there (in the relationship WITH such ones)... LITERALLY... TO answer.

I realize that many, perhaps even most... won't like what I've just shared. Perhaps you won't. But... it is the truth. And EVERY BIT of that second option is written. In the Bible (both the Torah AND the NT)... AND the Koran/Quran.

Abel knew it. Enoch knew it. Noah knew it. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob... Moses... David... the Prophets... John (the Baptizer)... the Apostles... Paul... and every other TRUE member of the Body of Christ knew/knows this.

There truly is NO other Way to God, NOW... except THROUGH His Son. And that Son did not establish ANY new religion. He tore the only one SANCTIONED by God... the Jewish system that required folks to approach the MOST HOLY One of Israel (JAH of Armies)... through a human priesthood and human high priest, yet, not be able to actually enter THEMSELVES... DOWN. He did not replace it with a new religion. Rather, he established a NEW form of worship: one that MUST be done IN SPIRIT... and through HIM, the Truth. Not in the flesh... and through a religion/human high priest/group of priests/golden calf.

But PLEASE know: neither you... nor ANYONE else... has to take MY word for this; not at ALL. I only shared it. Whether you can receive it or not... is beyond me, dear, dear brother.

I TRULY hope it helps, though.

As always, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Thank you, dear, dear LQ (peace!)... and I absolutely HAVE to agree with dear Skals (peace!) as to her comments in her last post to you (and folks consider ME blunt?! LOLOL! Although, I prolly WOULD have said that to you in person - LOLOL!).

Dear Skals (peace!)... 4:30pm on a Saturday won't work for me for a couple/few more weeks, as I have band rehearsal (one of the bands I perform with, Phrank's Way & Means," is performing in this "battle of the bands" benefit show: http://i9728.wix.com/law-rocks-1#!san-francisco/cb0e. My bassist also plays for a great local band, Karney).

So, while I would LOVE to do sixscreens with you, if Saturday at 4:30pm is the only day/time it will have to wait until after this show (how about we calendar it for the day after - Saturday, March 1, 2014?). In the meantime, consider coming out to the show, if you can (our proceeds will benefit the SF Food Bank). Of course, ANY of you dear ones are welcome to come and check us out! But be warned: tix are $40 plus a small online fee, I think (and so I am debating whether to do a shout out on Facebook - we're good but not great and for that amount I'd want great, but it's supposed to be great fun, so... ).

Lemme know if 3/1/4 works for you!

Peace!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

What portion are you referring to?

And no prob on the conf gig. It's a regular show every weekend. Fearons got quite a few shows there. It's not all just about watchtower. The one I get on is @4:30pm our time. He is in Mass. {3 hour diffy}. We will plan on a weekend that is good for both of us.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Yet, I will be there this weekend. If anyone else is so inclined, just go to his site for the particulars.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

LQ,

I did not mention what you will be walking towards because that is not my business sir. The fact that you WILL walk from that horrid place, as a strong man with your head held high and your scruples in check, is all I give merit to.

Your relationship with 'god' or "god" or no god at all, is all on you doll. Just do not take ANY steps backwards in the walk you've set out on now. Have faith that your son sees a strong man as his father and not a weak one, bond by chains you know are lethal for the spirit of the human in every degree.

HE WILL NOTICE YOUR STRENGTHS. HE IS OBSERVING YOU. SO IS THE CHILD YOU WERE BORN 'AS'.

Good luck sir.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."