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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:49 pm 
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I agree, that is a profound statement. Y'all always give me good things to think about.

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Could it be possible that you are hearing more clearly and better than you may think?

Possible? I don't know. One thing I have asked for multiple times is to be able to recognize his voice unequivocally... without a doubt that it's him. After all, he said "the sheep follow him, because they know his voice." One would think his voice would become recognizable, or at least apparent that it's not just me having a conversation with myself in my own mind. I haven't actually HEARD anything. Not with physical ears, not with a strong feeling, no visions, no dreams, nothing. I don't know what having holy spirit feels like. I don't know what his voice sounds like.

I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining about this. I really don't. I'm disheartened by it, certainly, but I'm still asking, and if he sees fit to reveal himself to me, then that would be just fantastic. I AM overjoyed that some of you DO hear and DO recognize because I get to benefit from what you hear.


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Hello LQ,

If I may. When one delves into the sheer exhaustive search and re-search of the deep history of EXACTLY how the IDEOLOGY germinated and then blossomed into the lethal insanity of a book publishing, greedwhores of real estate, that is called the WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY {no, i won't use jw.org ::)) ::)) silly little wt men, there they go again with the "we are no part of the world...HOWEVER.... //;) //;) "]...

Then one sees clearly and easily that it is time to walk. Just walk away sir. You will feel like crap. You will cry. You will go through the entire grief process. Google it honey and get familiar with it. If you are not aware of jwrecovery.com, google it too. GET YOURSELF A REAL GOOD SUPPORT NETWORK GOING [OFFLINE] . Non jws and non exjws will steer you to a healthier place in your life. Until you get yourself situated and pretty much at the end of your processing of grief, try to go easy on exjw stuff.

So, to re-cap:

Once you do the real research it takes to truly know the depths of lethal insanity that is the wtbts/ You WILL go through a process of real hard grief. The process WILL end at some point and you will survive. From that point on, every wt literature you see, you trash, knowing that if you do not, an innocent will get their hands and soul on it and THEY will one day have to go through this process. You feel no guilt in such soul-saving services. You Know it is LETHAL IDEOLOGY WITH NO MERIT.

Hope THAT helps! ;)

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Possible? I don't know. One thing I have asked for multiple times is to be able to recognize his voice unequivocally... without a doubt that it's him. After all, he said "the sheep follow him, because they know his voice." One would think his voice would become recognizable, or at least apparent that it's not just me having a conversation with myself in my own mind. I haven't actually HEARD anything. Not with physical ears, not with a strong feeling, no visions, no dreams, nothing. I don't know what having holy spirit feels like. I don't know what his voice sounds like.


I think that what you are asking for takes time, Leaving. The more you come to know Him, the easier to recognize Him and what comes from Him. The more you are also able to distinguish his voice from your own, or any other voice.

You are already recognizing and rejecting a stranger's voice (the wts). A voice you have been taught from childhood to accept as truth. You know and accept that it is Christ alone to whom we must listen, and that He is the Truth, the Word, the Image of God. You know to test all against Him. This truth may even seem obvious to you now... but there are those who can't hear or see that simple truth (yet).

Your concerns also sound similar to my own when I first understood that He does speak, and I asked for ears to hear Him... only to realize that He had been speaking to me all along. I just had to learn to use those ears I had been given.


So don't be disheartened.

I am glad that I could share something that helped from earlier also from another pov, with you and JM. I don't do that as much as I should. I forget sometimes.


Peace to you both,
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Well, I'm actually kind of "afraid" to respond (may you all have peace!)... because you all know me and my... mmmmmm... candor. But I will try (fingers, toes, eyes crossed!). First, I can't see anything you've stated that is deserving of a rebuke dear, dear LQ (peace to you, dear one!). I WOULD, however, speak forthrightly with you (smile - I know you know that), which may "feel" like a rebuke... but I think that's really only WTBTS "baggage." Few JWs are able to handle being spoken to directly. If you doubt that, ask anyone who is NOT a JW as to their experience WITH JWs at the door! Even so, I am not certain of your "frame of mind," so I ask that you NOT read anything into my "tone"... other than love, zeal, and forthrightness. I truly mean NOTHING else.

With that said... I will start with what I received from my dear Lord to share with you as to what you (think you) "want", and that is... that you will hear... when YOU truly WISH to.

I know you think you are ready now (most do)... but apparently what's in your HEART says otherwise. And part of that is due to fear, which I will touch on, in a bit. But what he directed me to ALSO share, to help you understand WHY you're not truly ready is consideration of "the man, Lot." If the TRUTH is told, it is EVIDENT by the account that Lot didn't REALLY WANT to leave Sodom... even though he KNEW what it was and what was occurring there!. Others had to literally be SENT to him and literally take him by the hand... and lead him out. THAT, though, dear, dear LQ... will never happen again. For one, it didn't really save anyone but dear Lot. His wife never made it far past the city gates... and his daughters took the situation as a opportunity to rape their own father. Both, the wife and daughters, did what they did because of what was in THEIR hearts. At least Lot obeyed... and didn't look BACK.

For two... someone HAS been sent to lead us "out" - the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). As you stated, HE calls HIS sheep... by NAME... and leads them out. Which is something I will expound on in a second.

But we HAVE the example of Lot... so that WE don't have to HAVE anyone be sent to LITERALLY lead us out. Knowing what he did, Lot should have LEFT. ON HIS OWN. WithOUT someone having to come get him. Why? Because the place was FILLED with badness and unrighteousness! What in the world would he want to stay there FOR... and... be a man of GOD?? He didn't leave, though, and it was ABRAHAM's plea that saved him. Lot WAS a righteous man... and because of Abraham's challenge to the MOST HOLY One of Israel... Lot... was saved. But... Abraham didn't go into Sodom and literally pull Lot out himself.

NOW, we have Christ to plead for us. But, like Abraham, he isn't going to literally come (or send someone) to take US by the hand and lead us OUT of "cities" that we KNOW are full uncleanliness. For one, he shouldn't HAVE to. For two, if WE can't see enough OURSELVES to leave... then HIS VOICE should lead us out! It should be ALL we need. Because, like the Father... HE IS A SPIRIT. And we WORSHIP the Father... and obey the SON... in SPIRIT and TRUTH. And if the TRUTH is that a "city" is FILLED with unrigtheousness... well, we can justify, overlook, excuse, ignore, even REFUSE to see, all we want. BUT... it won't change the TRUTH.

One does not even need to look at the results of the WTBTS' lies, falsehoods, and misleadings. At the many who have died LITERALLY... because of their misguided stance on all manner of things. One does not have to look at the hypocrisy. One doesn't have to look at their false prophecies. One doesn't have to look at their changing "light." One doesn't even have to look at where they've "seated" themselves (in the seat of Moses, the mediator for physical Israel). One need only HEAR them... when they call THEMSELVES "the truth"... to KNOW they are not who OR what they claim. Because ONLY ONE is the Truth: Christ. At least, as far as those who claim a UNION with Christ is/should be concerned.

But if none of these things convinces one to leave, then the WARNINGS that we have been GIVEN for doing so should do it! What warnings? First, the one where were told to FLEE... when we catch sight of the "disgusting thing standing in a holy place." Dear one, there is only ONE "holy place" on earth... and that is the "temple" of God - the Body of Christ. And ANYTHING that is standing in that "place"... yet is unclean... is a DISGUSTING thing to the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies! They don't BELONG in that "place" - such is the place of a CHASTE VIRGIN, not a an adulterous harlot!

The other is the warning says to get OUT of her... IF you don't want to SHARE in her sins. Because whoever stays IN her... WILL... SURELY... receive part of her plagues!

Now, true, it might seem like those plagues are a long time in coming, especially when you look at the "women"/"daughters" who've come before her. Some are not only still standing, but looking better than ever, yes? BUT... JAH is NOT slow respecting His promise. He just doesn't want ANY to die... and so are giving us time. Which time has only been a matter of days to HIM. Of course, we have also been warned: there will be the ridiculers and the whole "Where is this promised presence of his?" But that kind of thinking is not for someone who TRULY wants to know, hear, see Christ... is it? That is the thinking of the UNbeliever... or, at least, the doubter. Both... lack faith.

For those who truly have faith, however, time isn't an issue or an obstacle. Neither God nor Christ work according to OUR time requirements; it is WE who must humble ourselves as to THEIRS.

I am not saying these things to scare you; as other have shared, the choice is yours. I am also not trying to play clairvoyant here, as to what's in your heart - I truly do NOT know; I only shared what my Lord TOLD me. And while we can fool others, even fool ourselves... we cannot fool him, the Holy Spirit. HE knows "what's in a man."

I AM sharing these things with you (and risking another jaw drop from dear Skally - peace to you, too, dear girl!)... because he directed me to, they are the truth, and you need to understand: there will be no hand-holding being(s) sent to pull you out. Nope, YOU gotta make the choice and, if you choose, walk out... of your own recognizance. Why? Because THIS time, the choices REALLY won't be made FOR us. THIS time... we WILL have to make them. And what we do... and don't do... are evidence of our choices.

So, if there's something in "HER", that great but harlotous city... even in one or more of her daughters... that still calls to you... then it might be that you are having trouble hearing CHRIST call to you... WELL. Because HER voice is much louder. She is the "boisterous" woman, whereas our dear Lord's voice is low. And soft. And quiet. And calm. On occasion it can be sharp ("Mary!"), but it's never loud, at least not as we consider loud. And it never will be.

And... it should never HAVE to be.

I hope that helps, dear one, truly. Keep in mind, though, the words of the prophet, as reiterated by Paul. It's:

"Separate yourself and QUIT touching the unclean thing... and I will take you in, as sons and daughters"...

Not...

"You tell me what I need to do to convince you that I'm here and speaking to you... and, if you let/will have me, I will be Father to you."

The implication is that the separation comes FIRST, not "in the meantime." THEN we are taken in as sons and daughters. And I can personally vouch for that sequence. I heard some while still in, but I was beginning to question. The more I questioned, the more I heard. The more I heard... the more I tried to share with them WHAT I was hearing. The more they grew angry, the more I could "see" that they weren't who they claimed... which is what my Lord was TRYING to tell me. Once I made the CHOICE... to follow HIM... and NOT them... my hearing became more prevalent and my comprehension of WHAT I was hearing increased. Not WHO I was hearing, but WHAT I was hearing FROM him.

Bottom line: the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, doesn't owe US a thing, dear one. His promises are due to His love. He doesn't HAVE to speak to us, tell us ANYTHING, do ANYTHING for us. He doesn't need US - WE need Him (and for those who might wish to roll their eyes here... so be it; no one has to convince anyone else of anything - He will prove to be in HIS timeframe, not ours). Likewise, His SON doesn't owe us anything, either. Yet... he PAID (for) us! And so it is WE who are in debt... and so OBLIGATED... to THEM. And all they ask... is for us to listen... which requires faith... and then OBEY what we hear. And no, they don't tell us to put infants in ovens, or murder them, or such. (MY eyes rolling, here!).

My personal suggestion, dear one? I think dear FC (peace to you, luv!) touched on it: be honest with yourself. Not with us... not even with God and/or Christ. With YOURSELF. Start there. Ask yourself whether you truly WANT to find God/Christ. THEM. Not whatever illusion you have of them, painted by man, but them, truly. Whatever that means. Because if you're not TRULY willing to "risk it"... then you're not TRULY "wanting" what you might think you are.

I make this suggestion because I don't think you do truly want it... yet. I think you might want the "God" the WTBTS... or other "men"... have painted for you... but now know that that isn't the reality... and so aren't sure what IS the reality. The WTBTS, however, is safe (relatively speaking); you KNOW them... and how to "work" within them and their parameters. This, though, actually KNOWING God (through knowing Christ)... is entirely new to you. And that comes with some fear and uncertainty.

Once you allow your FAITH to move you PAST fear... and into love... TRUE love of God (and Christ)... which means AS they are and NOT as man has made them out to be... then you will stop hearing what you "want" to hear... and not hearing what you "don't want" to hear... and hear truth. FROM the Truth. Loudly (at least, in a spiritual sense)... and very clearly.

Again, I hope this helps and I hope I didn't offend... or if something I shared "felt" offensive to you, you will let the spirit of love in which I SHARED it prevail... and cover it over.

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

P.S. If you're not yet doing the "least" things that Christ directed those who belong to him to do... then again, this is evidence of what you (really don't) want... regardless of what you SAY. Do you see? I truly hope so!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:26 pm 
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Ever wonder WHY Lot didn't really WANT to leave Sodom?

I will leave it to those who ask to share with us what they received as to what (or perhaps who?)... was "keeping" him there. Although, one might not even have to ask on this one, given the discussion thus far.

Peace to you, all!

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I AM sharing these things with you (and risking another jaw drop from dear Skally - peace to you, too, dear girl!)... because he directed me to, they are the truth, and you need to understand: there will be no hand-holding being(s) sent to pull you out. Nope, YOU gotta make the choice and, if you choose, walk out... of your own recognizance. Why? Because THIS time, the choices REALLY won't be made FOR us. THIS time... we WILL have to make them. And what we do... and don't do... are evidence of our choices.


//;) um, i said this TOO shelbs. i just said it straight from my heart though.

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I would LIKE to say that I shared what I did straight from MY heart, too, dear Skals (peace!)... but that would not be the TRUTH. At least, not toward your connotation (that it was mine or something from ME). The TRUTH is that I'm just not that GOOD. And so I don't have it IN me... on my own... to have shared what I did. I did share what was PUT in me by my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). For ME to take credit, then, would be unkind and unloving. Because it would not be the TRUTH.

And regardless how childish and "high school" SOME of us can be at times (for instance, your silly attempt to make this a "contest" between you and me (sigh!)... I believe all here DESERVE the truth. Which is why I'm telling some to YOU, now.

I don't know the origins of YOUR insecurities, dear girl, other than the damage inflicted by the WTBTS, but I truly wish you'd stop trying to use ME as your whipping boy. Because I cannot PROMISE you that I won't address it. Again... I... am NOT good. Never said I was. Have ALWAYS said that I, Shellamar, NEED a savior.

And, mercifully, I have been given One. And so I'm not going to disregard, discredit, or overlook him... for YOU... or anyone else. Please... don't take your lack of faith... or lack of NEED for faith... out on me.

And please... don't compare yourself with ME. TRULY... I am NOT worthy. There is only one you should compare yourself with, and I am not even worthy to have tied the sandals of the one who said HE was unworthy to tie the sandals of that One: the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). Look at HIM, luv, and compare yourself with HIM... and ONLY him. In that way, you can't go wrong. Might "see" some things in yourself you won't particularly like, but that will be between you and him.

I hope that helps!

As always, peace to you!

YOUR servant, always, and a slave of Christ... ALWAYS,

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It appears your feelings are touched rather raw by my reply. I cannot help that occurance.

I can't figure out why you hop on my back in certain posts either Shelby. I was sincere in my comments to lq. Yet, nothing ANYONE ever says to anyone here that asks questions or enlightenment or encouragement on something, nothing we say or share has AS MUCH merit as what your god allegedly speaks only to you. So, it is fair to say we both get on each others nerves with our expressed thoughts and feelings on any given topic. Because, anything I ever say or share will be inferior to what you say and share.

My Voice tells me to tread carefully around you dear. I heed that warning everytime I encounter you. I'm sure it would be the same as if we were offline. I'd be a fool to ever lack heed of these warnings. Just as you do when you are warned of me by your Voice.

Have a super duper day Shelbs.

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LQ,

I hope you understand what my 'drift' was, so to SPEAK. My Voice told me to share it with you, so I did just that. I know it lacks a certain degree of sugar to coat it, yet you WILL get used to the 'taste' of raw truth. And it will get easier to swallow. Digestion? That's a different story. Once it 'passes' though, you are good to GO! GO SEEK YOUR NEW LIFE BRO! :D

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It appears your feelings are touched rather raw by my reply.


I had to take some time to think about that, dear Skals (peace to you!), to see if it was accurate, yes, but even more, to make sure that my response was truthful. And the truth is that I understood your INTENT (which was to return the "pain" my comments raised in YOU)... and THAT irritated me, yes. Because I didn't understand why you WISHED to do so. So, I responded to THAT: your INTENT to cause pain.

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I cannot help that occurance.


What you intended? No, I don't think you could have, luv. And I TOTALLY understand that. I'm not sure if you do, though.

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I can't figure out why you hop on my back in certain posts either Shelby.


Oh, c'mon, dear Skals: I don't "hop" on your back. I simply respond to what YOU put out there toward me. If anyone "hopped," it was you, dear one. I have tried, though, MANY times... and the record shows it... to speak "kindly" toward you. And the result? Always... ALWAYS... more discord from you. So, when I DO respond, it is usually according to "how" YOU have "taught" me you wish to BE responded to by me... and usually only when YOU address ME in some snarky way. As you did here. This thread was ABOUT hearing Christ. A dear one commented as such relates to HIM... and I responded to HIM. As did everyone else, including you.

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I was sincere in my comments to lq.


We ALL were sincere, luv! Yet, for some reason you seem to think you were more sincere than perhaps I was. But I was absolutely sincere. AND truthful. Both in my comments to the dear one AND to you.

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Yet, nothing ANYONE ever says to anyone here that asks questions or enlightenment or encouragement on something, nothing we say or share has AS MUCH merit as what your god allegedly speaks only to you.


I'm sorry - what (in gawd's name) did I say here that even makes you THINK that? Each one, including you, shared what was in THEM... as I shared what was put in ME. What I shared was IN ADDITION to and an augmentation of what others shared. YOU are the only one who shared something that, in essence, was DIFFERENT. But I didn't take issue with your contribution. NO ONE did - we ALL leave it up to dear LQ (peace to you, as well!) to decide. And we pretty much all said THAT, too, albeit maybe in different ways.

Now, if you FEEL that that is the case... that "nothing ANYONE ever says... has AS MUCH merit as what [my Lord (sic) says to me]"... then how should I respond to that? Differently than YOUR "I cannot help that occurrence"? Why must I be "better" than YOU in that regard? YOU (apparently) couldn't help how you responded... or how (you think) your comments made ME "feel." But you want to assert than I CAN "help" how my comments make YOU feel?? Isn't that... hypocrisy?

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So, it is fair to say we both get on each others nerves with our expressed thoughts and feelings on any given topic.


You don't get on my nerves, dear Skally. Truly. Your attacks are irritating at times, yes, but not to the point of being on my nerves. Mostly, you evoke feelings of (great) sorrow in me and a desire to apologize... SCREAM an apology and a REBUKE... for what you've endured and what FALSE christs/prophets have taught/done to you. But I am not your enemy. And apology to you and those like you... and a rebuke to those who did it!

What confused ME, though, is that I've done NOTHING to you, EVER. Technically OR literally. I simply respond in the same forthright manner YOU believe YOU use. Unfortunately, YOU don't seem to view it that way... and so take issue.

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Because, anything I ever say or share will be inferior to what you say and share.


I am sorry you FEEL that way... but I am not sure that I am responsible FOR that feeling IN you... OR that I am the key to YOUR dealing with it. Because what I say/share is NOT mine. You, though, either cannot... or will not... grasp that truth. Either way, I have absolutely NO control over that.

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My Voice tells me to tread carefully around you dear.


Perhaps you are not only misunderstanding the source of your "Voice," dear one... but the message. It could be AS to (YOUR manner of) dealing with me)... versus the manner of my dealing with you. I don't pursue you, dear Skally. I rarely comment to you (any more). Usually, it's because what you DO say seems full of a kind of anger I just don't want to be a part of. I don't NEED to be a part of.

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I heed that warning everytime I encounter you.


Okay, how do I respond to that? With "soothing" words ("Oh, dear Skals! Why?? You shouldn't have to do that!")? Or with truth? Well, you "know"me, so... and so truth it is. And the truth is that, no, you don't, dear one. You're not careful with ME at all. To the contrary, actually. You literally make it your AIM to be opposing, if not right out antagonistic, WHENEVER you comment to me. Virtually without exception ALL of your comments to ME show that, including those here. C'mon, let's BE honest, if we're gonna BE honest, K?

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I'm sure it would be the same as if we were offline.


I'm not sure, though. I think that here you only see one "facet" of "me"... and I of you... as well as perhaps misread/misunderstand my tone and intent (as you may think I do you/yours). I say that because those who DO know and speak with me offline may not agree. I am sure that some may agree, though, given a situation (I am a "stand your ground" kinda girl, absolutely, when I believe the situation calls for it), but I believe they would say it's situational. I am human, just like everyone else, dear one. I'm just not as concerned as some when it comes to saying what others want to hear/want me to say/will think "about" me if I say what I do.

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I'd be a fool to ever lack heed of these warnings.


Just so we're clear: YOU are saying that, and not me.

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Just as you do when you are warned of me by your Voice.


(Scratching head). I'm not sure what you're referring to. If you believe that my Lord warns ME as to YOU in the way your voice warns YOU... and I'm not saying he does (why would he??)... why do you have an issue with me at ALL? Wouldn't that imply that we are the same/similar? So how can you take issue with ME... for being "like" you?? If you TRULY view us... and our situations... SO similar... and this statement implies that you do, in some way, why are you expecting ME to be/act different than YOU do????? Oh, that's right: I'm the "christian." YOU are excused from acting "nicer." I am not. You do realize that that's hypocrisy, yes? Even so, "niceness" is not a fruit of God's holy spirit, dear one. I can assure you, by means of his words to them, MANY thought my Lord was not "nice." SOME even wanted to KILL him for his unflinching, sometimes even scathing candor. Some... did.

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My Voice told me to share it with you, so I did just that. I know it lacks a certain degree of sugar to coat it, yet you WILL get used to the 'taste' of raw truth. And it will get easier to swallow. Digestion? That's a different story. Once it 'passes' though, you are good to GO! GO SEEK YOUR NEW LIFE BRO!


I realize you stated this to dear LQ, but I must say I find it so... curious... coming from you, now. I stated virtually the exact same thing... and apparently with no "sugar" either (I mean, that is the "problem", right???)... yet, you make this statement. Apparently, MY stating it [without "sugar"] doesn't have "AS MUCH MERIT" as YOUR "sugarless" statement. Yes? LOLOLOL! Oh, the... well, there are a number of words that could go here. A "b" word, "i" word... "h" word...

(Shaking head)

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Have a super duper day Shelbs.


You, as well, dear Skals, truly! And, please... don't let me "get" to you, girl. Maybe look past what you THINK you're "seeing" in my words... and just try and grasp the point/message? I mean, I realize that WT training is to read something OTHER than what's in the "paragraph," but I promise you - I am not trying to mislead ANYONE. I say what I mean... and mean what I say. And I share what I receive from my dear Lord... just so... and share the truth: that I received it FROM him. To say otherwise would be a lie. You deserve to be spoken to truthfully, dear Skally. Everyone does.

Peace! Truly!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar... who apologizes to dear FC and other dear ones (peace to you, all!) for this "sidebar"... but if it keeps the thread current, well, then...


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Shelby, i cannot even, i mean i will not even read all of that. i tried the first few paragraphs but the spinning, the insertion of thoughts that aren't there on my side, the "i'm right about what i say i am, and what not and you are wrong in whatever it is i'm wrong in how i view god in MY life.

i told you a Voice told me to tell you these things. how about my Voice and your Voice have a conference call at sixscreens! :/

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Maybe look past what you THINK you're "seeing" in my words... and just try and grasp the point/message? I mean, I realize that WT training is to read something OTHER than what's in the "paragraph," but I promise you - I am not trying to mislead ANYONE. I say what I mean... and mean what I say.


I say this right back atcha Shelbs! Verbatim. Maybe a whole new pair of glasses will help YOU to see past what YOU think YOU 'see' in MY Voice. I'll tell ya one thing, I'd love to have coffee with ya someday!! g:) We could skip all these longwinded posts, eh? And just chitchat it out. I'd love it. My Voice engaged with your Voice. Awesome!

And I mean it, I'd love to sit a while with you and gather Light.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:46 pm 
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You deserve to be spoken to truthfully, dear Skally


That is all I've ever been waiting FOR. Yet, I do TRUST, the wait will never Be over. I'm sure you efforts have not gone unnoticed though. ;)

Candidly, I've never gotten the impression much truthfulness can be spoken by such imperfect humans, Being. Nor by you Shelby. I do Believe that Truth is an illusion. You cannot know the truth any better than I can know it. I've realized this now. You simply want me to believe ALL that you say, because you also (here)say that "god" is the Voice telling me these Truths. And if I don't TRUST what you are telling me, cuz "god" told you and how dare i question what god is telling YOU, but is leaving me klueless, as LQ is trying to point out, well i simply am not as worthy in gods eyes as you are.

dont deny it shelby. remember, I DESERVE THE TRUTH SPOKEN TO ME. NOT FABLES AND SPIN.

Can you practice what you are preaching to me here? TRUTH? I suppose only YOU and your Voice knows for sure what you are really all about shelby. do you suppose he talks to others about you? ya know, like how he tells you about others lives....does he tell others about his child shelby? does he talk about you to all his OTHER CHILDREN? What do you think he tells them?

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Shelby, i cannot even, i mean i will not even read all of that.


I understand, luv (peace!). I openly admit I am verbose. A "sin" perhaps, but I can't help it - LOLOL!

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i tried the first few paragraphs but the spinning, the insertion of thoughts that aren't there on my side,


Not sure what you're referring to there...

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the "i'm right about what i say i am, and what not and you are wrong in whatever it is i'm wrong in how i view god in MY life.


Not sure what you referring to THERE...

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i told you a Voice told me to tell you these things.


And I did not disagree with that! Indeed, I totally received that! Even addressed what that Voice MIGHT have meant! So, not sure what you mean with THAT...

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how about my Voice and your Voice have a conference call at sixscreens!


Sure, how about it? I'm not sure how that works, but I'm not opposed to it, if that's what you want to do! I would need to know when well ahead of time so's I could mark my schedule, but, sure... how about it? And yes, I am absolutely serious.

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Maybe a whole new pair of glasses will help YOU to see past what YOU think YOU 'see' in MY Voice.


Ummmm... I think I "see" what YOU say is there: me, on YOUR nerves. But YOU said that, dear one. I didn't think it up.

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I'll tell ya one thing, I'd love to have coffee with ya someday!!


Well, then, come on over, girl!

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We could skip all these longwinded posts, eh?


Yeah, but, well, what's an internet forum like this FOR? I did that whole "You gotta be quiet and only say what we want you to say and then only a little bit" thing with the WTBTS. Done being censored as to God and Christ, luv. You should be, too. EVERYONE should be!

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And just chitchat it out. I'd love it.


I would, too; however, "history" has shown ME that those who SAY they'd love it... seldom do! But... I'm more than willing to give it a try!

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My Voice engaged with your Voice. Awesome!


I think so!

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And I mean it, I'd love to sit a while with you and gather Light.


(Smile) We could sit... and I could let my little light shine, luv. But you wouldn't gather any from ME. I would be MORE than happy, however, to tell you about the One from Whom you COULD gather some (light)!! MORE than happy - LOLOLOL!

You are not the first to want to get together, dear one. I remember dear Farkel making the same request some years ago. And I went to see him... and we had a LOVELY time! We are still close today - more than any would guess, actually (which reminds me - I need to call him!). Very few meet me and then "hate" me. EVEN if they don't want to talk about God/Christ. Only one situation turned "sour" (last year)... and my heart breaks when even thinking about it. It was unfortunate, but it was a matter of loyalty (to someone I felt was unnecessarily... and unkindly... being treated very poorly. For no REAL reason except others' inability to forigve and let go. I couldn't jump on that wagon and so... well, you know how we women can be - if one doesn't like you, none of their friends, family members, spouses, etc., can like you, either. So sad, IMHO). But virtually everyone else - we're cool! Once folks see I have no horns, tail, pitchfork... halo... wings (yet)... they tend to relax a little more. They do ask a LOT of questions, though - LOLOL!

Anyway, sure, dear Skals. You name the time and place... and if it's within, say, 100 miles... or hours that my schedule can accommodate... I'm there!

Peace... and looking forward to "meeting" you, too!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


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:)

doug can kiss my ass though.

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