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To the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with... may you all have peace!

In the account of the man Job, one can read what is the TRUE "challenge" set before man: whether he will maintain his integrity and so his faith in God... or whether adversity will cause him to lose faith (in God)... perhaps even to the point of cursing God, even to His face. The challenge is issued twice, at Job 1:6-12 and at Job 2:1-7. It is the second instance that is on my mind this morning... because of what my Lord said to me a bit earlier. There, it reads:

"On another day the angels came to present themselves before JaHVeH, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. And JaHVeH said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”

"Satan answered JaHVeH, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

"Then JaHVeH said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”

“Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

"JaHVeH said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”

"So Satan went out from the presence of JaHVeH and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head."


Interesting challenge: a man will give ALL that he has... of his own life. In other words, so as to keep living... meaning to protect his PHYSICAL life... a man will give everything. Give. And what my dear Lord and I discussed early this morning is that a man will even give the one thing that NO ONE can TAKE from him: his faith.

If you read the account you will see that in order to prove his challenge, the Adversary literally took EVERYTHING away from Job... except his life (well, and maybe that nagging wife - LOLOL!). Took. By permission, yes, but still took away from dear Job... by the things he (the Adversary) did: Job's children, his wealth, his health (and some believe that you have nothing if you don't have your health... but is that true?).

What he DIDN'T take, though... along with Job's life (which he did not have permission to do)... was one other thing that he COULDN'T take... and even WITH permission! Had JAH given him permission, he COULD have taken Job's life... but... and THIS is what I learned from my Lord very early this morning... he COULD NOT have taken Job's FAITH! Why? Because THAT is the one thing that doesn't even belong to JAH to take/give to another: it must be given UP... by the one who possesses it! It is the ONE THING... man owns... ALL to himself!

Yes, we can receive MORE faith from JAH, because it is a fruit of His holy spirit. But the "seed" (of faith)... which is often not EVEN the size of a mustard seed... is ours!

Yes, JAH can allow a man to succumb to a LACK of faith... but that man will have had to show he WANTED to succumb, WANTED to give up... WANTED to relinquish his faith... to begin with! Eve did this, relinquished her faith. She was deceived, yes, but she could have stood on her FAITH... in JAH and what He told her. Rather, she chose to give that faith UP... DEMONSTRATED that she WOULD give it up (by letting her "desire" for the fruit be KNOWN).. and by doing so... was ABLE to be deceived!

Dear ones... your faith... belongs to you... and [i]it is the ONE thing that NO ONE can TAKE from you[/i]. They can take everything else, even your very life! But your faith... you must GIVE. And this world, which belongs to our Adversary, and so everything IN it has been designed BY him... to help HIS assertion, prove HIS challenge... to all of mankind)... is designed to DO that: push you... to give UP your faith!

That challenge, to ALL of us, asserts that for the sake of his own life a man WILL give ALL he owns... including his faith. Why is it important to know this TRUTH? Because, dear ones, it is not your PHYSICAL life that the Adversary wants you to give up. It is not your PHYSICAL life that he is after. It is your ETERNAL life... the REAL life... the SPIRIT life... that he wants you give up. Why? Because HE wants THAT life! Your flesh is nothing, means nothing to him. Is of no use at all. But your SPIRIT? THAT, dear ones... is the "TREASURE"... HIDDEN... "in earthen (physical) vessels."

How, though, can the Adversary get you to give UP that life, the ETERNAL life? By getting you to give UP... your FAITH... in the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies! Your faith... because it is FAITH... that leads to the preserving ALIVE of your SPIRITS! Hebrews 10:39; Luke 4:5-8 That preservation is given by only One:

Psalm 31:23
Psalm 36:6
Psalm 41:2
Psalm 66:9
Psalm 119:25, 37, 40, 50, 88, 93, 107, 149, 154, 156, 159
Psalm 138:7
Psalm 143:11
Luke 17:32-34

And the means by which He GIVES it... SAVE... PRESERVES ones alive... is His SON:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, [b]but to save the world through him[/b]."

John 6:38-40; 47-51; 53, 54, 57, 58

So... give up your worldly goods to save your skin? Maybe. Your wealth? Could be. Your children? Who can say? Perhaps even give up your own fleshly life - we can, all of us, only take so much UPON our flesh, so who can judge? But give up your FAITH?

Before you do... please... consider just what ALL you're giving up. In this life, yes... but what about the next?

I hope this helps and, again, peace to you!

Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with... and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

What he DIDN'T take, though... along with Job's life (which he did not have permission to do)... was one other thing that he COULDN'T take... and even WITH permission! Had JAH given him permission, he COULD have taken Job's life... but... and THIS is what I learned from my Lord very early this morning... he COULD NOT have taken Job's FAITH! Why? Because THAT is the one thing that doesn't even belong to JAH to take/give to another: it must be given UP... by the one who possesses it! It is the ONE THING... man owns... ALL to himself!

Yes, we can receive MORE faith from JAH, because it is a fruit of His holy spirit. But the "seed" (of faith)... which is often not EVEN the size of a mustard seed... is ours!


WOW!!!

It is our FAITH that the adversary wants. Because of what comes with it ( giving up our spirit/life)
Nothing else physical concerns him. But it is what he uses to try and break us and get down, deep down and inside into that possible "mustard seed of faith" to ultimately destroy us.

And of ALL the things Jah can give and take away and allow....

Our FAITH is something he cannot.

That was awesome my sister,
Thank you for this
Love and blessings to you and all your household as well,
Justmom

Amen, and Amen!

To this and to all.


May all with ears hear this truth... and so be on guard against giving up your faith when the Adversary uses all at his disposal to get you to give it up, and instead find strength in Christ.


Peace and love to you all,

tammy

Very interesting.

JWs say Satan wants us to give up our integrity/obedience/loyalty. That's the use of fear, of course, to get us to do things the way WTBS wants us to.

On to faith . . . what is it? JWs use this: "the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." (Heb 11:1). I've given many a talk to define what this means, and I have to admit, looking back, I've failed miserably. It's hard to explain faith.

I just looked up "faith" in multiple dictionaries online, and found what I deem to be attempts to define something that's pretty abstract. So what is faith? I found this posting, and actually really liked it. If you don't want to read it, the synopsis is: faith is taking God at his word. I would add that this poster appears to view God and Christ as one and the same. I do not. Thus, faith in God and faith in his Christ are two different things, but boils down the the same thing: taking God/Christ at their word. I don't think I could have said it simpler.

http://www.startingwithgod.com/knowing- ... -is-faith/

Faith is knowing that what you have heard from Christ and/or God... is real and true.


faith is taking God at his word.

That is not too bad ; )

One hears the Word of God (who is Christ)... and one puts faith in what one hears because one knows that what one hears from God and/or Christ... is trustworthy and true.


Then one may exercise their faith by DOING what one hears to DO.

Peace,
tammy

[Disclaimer: wordy and passionate, but NOT yelling; proceed at your own caution - LOLOL!)



You must completely let GO of what JWs "say," dear LQ (mornin' and peace to you!). Else, you will be compelled to go BACK to it... so as weigh what CHRIST says against it. The danger in doing that is if what HE says sounds even REMOTELY like something JWs "say"... you are more likely to reject it. Even if it comes from him. What you forget is that "Satan KEEPS transforming himself into an angel of light." And that false prophets and false christs WILL arise... "to mislead, IF POSSIBLE... EVEN the chosen ones."

So what? So... ALL religions will have SOME... mmmmmm... "kernels"... of truth on which they based their claims (and so, develop others' faith in THEM). If, however, you let GO of ALL you learned from them... from ALL religion... and then let CHRIST help you REBUILD your "house"... on HIMSELF, the Rock... you won't falter "when the rain and winds" come.

Now, for the account in Job, yes, the Adversary DOES want us to give up our integrity. The problem is... integrity as to WHAT? Our FAITH. Contrary to what the WTBTS teaches, however, faith in JAH and CHRIST. NOT faith in "Jehovah"... OR the WTBTS... which is what they are pushing: if you have faith in THEM, you have faith in "Jehovah". If you have faith in "Jehovah" you will have faith in them.

There is only One in Whom we are to put our faith, though... and that One is SO watered-down by the WTBTS that he virtually doesn't even really exist among them: the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). By having faith in HIM... one has, by default, faith in his Father, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Because one cannot even KNOW the former... unless the latter allows it. John 6:44 In the same vein, one cannot have faith in the LATTER... without having faith in the FORMER... because the former is the One Whom the latter SAID to put our faith IN.

As for what faith IS, I will tell you that the NWT transliteration is one of, if not the, best out there. Per your quote:



Yes, this is ACCURATE, although I'm not sure the WTBTS translation committee meant it be so!



Not if you really read the WORDS, luv! Let's take a look:



What is an "assured expectation"? Is it not being CERTAIN/SURE of one's expectation? Sure/certain that what is expected WILL occur? Expectation of WHAT, though? The next few words clarify:



Oh! So, it the certainty/sureness of expectation... of what (thing(s)) one is HOPING for! Hmmmmm... like... what? Well, let's take Noah: per him, he was given a directive to build an ark. Why? Because "God" was going to cause a great amount of water come upon the earth, indeed, overcome and flood the earth. Is this what Noah was "hoping" for... that he could be CERTAIN/SURE would occur? Doesn't sound very righteous, does it, given the destruction that would result? What, though, if Noah's "hope"... was for God to rid the earth of violence/wickedness/evil? Could THAT have been Noah's "hope"? Sounds more righteous, even reasonable, does it not?

So, okay, for the sake of argument, let's SAY Noah's "hope" was for the earth to be rid of violence/wickedness evil. Now, let's look at the next few words:



The "evident"... "demonstration." What does that mean? Doesn't it mean that some kind of DEMONSTRATION... most likely tangible... is presented, given, witnessed somehow... perhaps even seen... that gives EVIDENCE... to whatever the "thing" (on which the "hope" is based)... has occurred?

So, we have faith being the ASSURED... EXPECTATION... of the thing HOPED for... further CORROBORATED by... the EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION... of... what? The verse says:



Of... REALITIES. NOT of... assumptions, presumptions, speculations, contrivances, illusions, delusions... no. Realities. The REAL.

So, faith is the "assured... expectation... of the thing HOPED for"... and so the "EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION... of... REALITIES." Wow. So, the one hoping has an ASSURED expectation of what they hope for... BASED on an EVIDENT demonstration... of [a] reality! So, such one somehow received SOMETHING... REAL... which something provided DEMONSTRATIVE EVIDENCE... so that they could have the ASSURED expectation... of whatever it was they were HOPING for. Yes? Following so far?

But wait... there's a very importance piece to consider and that's the last 3 words of the verse:



What does THAT mean, "though, not beheld"?? Well, what does it mean to "behold"? Does it not mean... to SEE... with one's eyes? For example, when one says, "Behold!"... do they not mean, "Look!"... "See!" Okay, you might say, "Well, yes, but they don't always mean "with your [physical] eyes. Sometimes, they mean "perceive... with your 'mind's eye' or 'spiritual' eyes!" And that's true! BUT... what is not "beheld" HERE... is an "EVIDENT demonstration"... AND... REALITIES. How, though, can one receive some kind of EVIDENT... DEMONSTRATION... even some REALITY... yet NOT see it?

Dear one, it is how ALL did, in almost EVERY account: from Adham/Eve... to Noah... to Abraham... to David... the Prophets... John the Baptizer... Saul of Tarsus:

THEY HEARD.

We are SO dependent on our EYES... that we FORGET... we have OTHER senses! At least four, if not more (four PHYSICAL senses, but 5 other SPIRIT senses, if not more!).

Noah... HEARD... FROM JAH... what He going to DO. He BELIEVED it, based on SOME... DEMONSTRATED EVIDENCE... that He WOULD do... given to NOAH. That evidence... was SO... REAL... to NOAH... that he didn't NEED to SEE it, BEHOLD it.

This is the very reason why we are told, as to the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit:

"This is my Son, the beloved. LISTEN... to him!"

True, that Son said we are also to LOOK at him (keep our gaze upon him, as Israel had to look at the copper serpent raised up in the wilderness by Moses)... but before he said that, we were TOLD... by Moses AND JAH... to LISTEN (to that Prophet/Son).

This, dear one, is what our dear Lord meant when said we are to walk... NOT BY SIGHT... but... BY FAITH: the "assured expectation of the things hoped for, the evident demonstration of reality, though not beheld."

To what was he referring to, specifically? LIFE back from the dead!

How is this? Do you recall when Thomas said he would NOT believe that Christ had died... and returned... unless he saw the wounds... and Christ responding that while he (Thomas) was happy because he SAW... happy would be those who DID NOT SEE, yet BELIEVED? Believed... WHAT... dear one?

THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND IS ALIVE... ALIVE, SUCH THAT HE SPEAKS!

Why is this important? Dear one, it is of the UTMOST importance because... if you do not TRULY believe that Christ not only rose from the dead... is alive... AND speaks... HOW CAN YOU HAVE A HOPE IN A RESURRECTION?? And is THAT not the thing "HOPED for"... for which we have received an "EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION... of the REALITY"... in Christ HIMSELF resurrecting... even though we DID NOT SEE IT WITH OUR OWN EYES... but only HEARD OF IT?

(Not yelling - only emphasizing - LOLOL!).

The Jews believed in a resurrection... or so they SAY. As many today SAY... they believe Christ rose from the dead. Some even say he is alive. But... WHO... TRULY... BELIEVES THAT HE SPEAKS? DEAD men don't speak, dear one - LIVING men... speak! So, if Christ DOES NOT SPEAK... then... he isn't alive! He is dead... STILL!

Yet, if he DID rise... and IS alive... then why WOULDN'T he speak?

And that is what faith is about: that one has the ASSURED EXPECTATION... of the thing HOPED FOR... THEIR OWN RESURRECTION... AND... THAT OF THOSE THEY LOVE... BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION... OF THAT REALITY - THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST! EVEN THOUGH... WE DIDN'T SEE IT... OURSELVES. We have FAITH... that WE will be RESURRECTED... BECAUSE... HE was resurrected!

And THAT is why (1) passing his flesh and blood BY; and (2) NOT LISTENING TO HIS VOICE... are DEMONSTRATIONS... EVIDENCING... OUR... LACK OF FAITH.

Again, not yelling. Quite calm, actually. But the SPIRIT in me, right now... HOO-WHEEE!! He REALLY wants you dear ones to GET this!



One cannot explain what one does not know oneself, dear one. And faith, in this regard, as you are wondering about here... is a fruit of God's holy spirit. And so, to EXPLAIN it... with regard to these matters... requires the possession of that spirit. Such that one does not speak of one's own initiative or "knowledge"... but of the SPIRIT, which spirit is given them by Christ... AND DOES NOT LIE.



Smile. You tell us, now.



I will see your synopsis and raise you... as to your knowledge of what... or rather WHO... is God's WORD. Because THAT is where most folks STUMBLE: they THINK it means listening to what comes out of God's mouth... and it DOES... to the extent that it means listening to the One who CAME FORTH FROM GOD'S BREATH... he Who is the Word of God... the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). Listen to HIM... you listen to God. See HIM... you see God. He is NOT God... but the "mouth," "word," "wisdom," "truth," "life," "way," "yes," "Amen,"... and SON... that came FORTH... FROM God. TO us... and FOR us.

Which is, again, why God SAID:

"THIS... IS MY SON, the beloved. LISTEN... to HIM."

If we don't listen to that One... how can we say we're listening to GOD?? Some will say, though, "Well, he doesn't SPEAK, except through the pages of the Bible!"

Well, we know THAT's not true. Why? Because:

1. He didn't speak to Philip "through the pages of the Bible."
2. He didn't speak to Saul of Tarsus "through the pages of the Bible."
3. He didn't speak to Peter, Cornelius, James... or John... "through the pages of the Bible."

The BIBLE "says" ... God's Word... IS ALIVE... and SPEAKS. And it is NOT meaning the Bible (which is NOT God's Word! John 1:1, 14; 17:17; Hebrews 13:12; Revelation 19:13. We can KNOW that by (1) the words OF the Bible that follow the statement as to that word being alive (if read in an accurate transliteration); and (2) we KNOW Christ is God's Word... and that he IS alive - he LIVES.

We can also know it by the words of the same writer, that:

"You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”

"But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, to [Jesus] the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

"See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?" Hebrews 12:18-25

Notice, it does not say, "him who speaks"... from the Bible... but "warns us 'from heaven'"!

Now, that phrase "warns us" might instill some fear... and so we might misinterpret it. The Greek word that is transliterated "warns", though... apo... means... SEPARATE. So the ACCURATE rendering of the verse is for us to not refuse him who tries to SEPARATE us... doing so from the spirit realm! And is this accurate? It is! Based on Christ's words:

"The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to [i]his[/i] voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice." John 10:3, 4

Yet, isn't that what JAH tried to do with our ancient brothers? Lead them OUT of Egypt, OUT of captivity, to FREEDOM... by means of the man MOSES? Yet because of THEIR lack of faith... which prompted them to murmur and complain... even rebel against Moses... they kept putting Him to the test and so were laid low in the wilderness, NOT permitted to enter the promised land?

It is the same TODAY, dear one: He is STILL trying to lead "Israel" out of "captivity"... only this time, NOT from a place on earth (Egypt/the wilderness) to yet another place on earth (Jerusalem, where His earthly house was built)... but from a STATUS on earth (children of the Devil) to a STATUS that encompasses heaven AND earth: the NEW Jerusalem, the "HOUSE" of God, made up of HIS children!

So that just as ancient Israel had to listen to MOSES, THEIR mediator... who repeatedly tried to warn, so as to SEPARATE them, while in the wilderness.... WE are to listen to Christ... OUR mediator... who tries to warn US, from the SPIRIT realm... so as to separate US... as HIS sheep... while we're in THIS "wilderness."

If we don't believe he SPEAKS, however... how can we HEAR him warn, lead, and so SEPARATE us??



Nope. THAT you couldn't have said any simpler, dear one. If you know that, though, then you at least have some TRUTH to your "Foundation." I hope you are able to build MORE... which you can do if you listen TO... and FOLLOW... THE Truth:

The HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Son and Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... JAH, who is the MOST HOLY One of Israel.

May you then, if you don't already have them, be given ears to HEAR... the SPIRIT, Christ... when he and his Bride, those of the NEW Jerusalem, say to YOU:

"Come! Take 'life's water'... the breath, seed, and BLOOD of God... which blood SPEAKS... and in a better way that Abel's blood... and is poured out from the innermost parts of the His Son, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... FREE! "

I know I've shared a lot here, dear LQ... but I hope some, if not all, of it helps. Truly.

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

I don't disagree with anything you said here. Letting go is VERY hard for someone like me, a born-in, such that all I've ever known is JW teachings. But I agree that I must.

You said this:

I agree that JWs, knowingly or not, interchange WTBTS and "Jehovah". However, I'm curious what you mean by the difference between faith in JAH and faith in "Jehovah". I may not be "getting it".

There is no "Jehovah," dear one (peace to you!)... OR "Jesus." There are only the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and His Son, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

The name "Jehovah" (and it's partner, "Jesus") is a misnomer created to "mislead, if possible, EVEN the Chosen Ones." I know, I know... what does a name matter? While I have shared why more times than I can count, I am directed by my Lord to share that all one need do is look up how many times the MOST HOLY One of Israel (1) makes an issue of His name... and calling on it, and (2) admonishes that His name is to be EXALTED... and (3) the times the SON mentions HIS position as to that name... so that no one has to take MY word for whether it is important to call... the SOVEREIGN of the Universe... AND His SON... by their right names.

It will not be those who "call on the name of 'Jehovah,'"... or on the name of "'Jesus'"... that will get away/saved... but those who call on the name of the MOST HOLY One of Israel... JAH (of Armies)... JaHVeH (NOT "JeHoVaH"), by means of saying "Blessed IS he... that COMES... IN THE NAME of JAH." Only One did: JAHESHUA, the Chosen One OF JAH.

What some who haven't yet learned to FULLY shed the baggage of the WTBTS... or other false prophets... is that the very reason those FALSE names, "Jehovah" and "Jesus" were put OUT there... IS to mislead Israel... and those who go with... AWAY.

First, they tried to take the TRUE names out of the Writings altogether! "Someone" decided, "Oh, no, the name is just too sacred to utter!" How, though, can you call on someone whose name... YOU CAN'T UTTER?? Ridiculousness!

When someone realized the folly of THAT... they tried to put it back. Only... they weren't allowed to HAVE it... so, they put in misnomers: "Jehovah" and "Jesus."

We don't GET the name of God from man, dear one... OR the name of His Son. We get the name of BOTH... FROM the Son. He who makes the Father... KNOWN... to us... and we to the Father... and who calls us by NAME. He, of course, would give us HIS name... himself.

Now, does it matter if one says "Yahweh" vs. "JahVeh"? I can. It COULD be like a clashing symbol... same as it would if someone YOU didn't know/like/love called YOU... mmmmmm... "Leaking Quietly." See? Change one letter... and you have an entirely different meaning! Which difference FRIENDS might be able to get away with... but only in moments of jest. In moments of seriousness... it could be considered insulting. Certainly not loving. Especially if they KNOW that is not your name. And, as your FRIENDS... they WOULD know. Right?

What about "Yahveh"? That would be more like calling you, say, "Leeving Qwyetly"... which SOUNDS the same and so... why worry about that? We, though, especially in the western world, think nothing of names... ridiculing them... even defaming and slandering them. In the EASTERN world, though... names MEAN something. And just changing the SOUND of a name... can change the MEANING of a name. And names are VERY important for those people. It is why children are often NOT named... for some time. Time for them to SHOW "who" they are.

As always, though, dear one... no one has to take MY word for any of this. They can read of it (it IS in the Bible... and not just briefly)... or they can ask, too! Very simple, both, and one even MORE. Ask.

Or... just keep calling on "Jehovah" and "Jesus"... and see what that gets you. I dare say, there are MANY who would say NOW (and even more, if they were being HONEST)... not much.

Not being disrespectful. Just being honest. And for any who would take offense (although, I hope none do as, again, just being honest here), I would offer that they might consider this when they "cringe" on hearing the name "Allah." Because there are millions who think THAT is the real name of God, too, yet... I've no doubt they would argue to the contrary.

I hope this helps, dear LQ!

Again, peace to you, my dear!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

I actually have no problem with JaHVeH. Other than the pronunciation, I was thinking maybe there was another issue at stake. I do think it wrong of anyone, including WTBS to purport to restore the divine name to the Bible and completely ignore the pronunciation. They would have been better off at least using Yahweh or just YHWH instead.

I'm having a hard time, admittedly, thinking that "Jehovah" and "Jesus" were put out there to mislead.

And you're not alone, dear LQ (peace to you!). Unfortunately, in our HOPE that mankind is "good"... which is a noble hope, even I have to admit... "we" sometimes, in our pursuit of "positivity" (versus pursuit of TRUTH)... go there: "Why would God ALLOW us to be SO misled??! No, it must be a mistake to think that!" Please... consider the CHALLENGE to us, mankind... and that FACT that one who MADE it... will not only pull out ALL stops... but... as you have heard/read... "transform HIMSELF... into and angel... of LIGHT."

But as to the REASON those names... THAT name... is "out there,"... please... do NOT take my word for it! ASK! And then LISTEN to the response given you!

Please... DON'T underestimate the Adversary SO! C'mon, luv... we are human! We are SMART (well, we like to think so)! What would be... SMARTER?? To blatantly show oneself as opposed to the MOST HOLY One of Israel? Or... to show oneself... mmmmmmm... "friendly" and "harmless."

"Keeps transforming himself AS an angel of light."

Have you ever TRULY considered just what that MEANS, dear one?? WHO... IS... the Light? And so WHO would the Adversary KEEP... TRANSFORMING... himself... to be an angel... messenger... OF? And would such transformation be obvious/blatant? Or... illusory... hidden... insidious?

"To mislead... IF POSSIBLE... EVEN... the chosen ones."

We each have to look at ourselves... and determine... whether, based on US... that IS... indeed, possible. Because WE... are the ones who provide the RESPONSE... to all of the CHALLENGES/ACCUSATIONS:

"Now... the ACCUSER of our brothers... has been thrown down!"

What are we... one anothers' BROTHER... accused OF... and by WHOM?

I hope this helps, dear one, truly.

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Wonderful stuff! And better still, I 'heard' where you were 'going' before reading the words.
Thank you Shelby.


Loz x

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"This is my son. LISTEN to Him!"

Faith is everything, yes.

Plus discernment, so that we don't founder by going down false paths, as with the Watchtower.

"The adversary transforms himself into an angel of LIGHT".

Since the TRUE light is CHRIST and remember why some of the reasons so many are attracted to the WTBS is the fact that they have come to call they feel the true god by his personal name separating him from all other " Gods and Lords" that are merely titles.

So the name " Jehovah" from the Hebrew YHWH or JHVH, JeHoVaH, sounds and looks correct.

And if the adversary needs to transform himself into the closest thing to the real light being Chirst as possible in order to mislead even " chosen ones", then the name of the religion and the god it worships MUST look and sound real close to the real thing without being it!

Sorta like Coke versus Pepsi. ( Coke is the real thing saying)

This has been a huge attraction and snare. Because although they feel they worship the true God by his name, the adversary has accomplished his purpose because they are millions of so- called Christians that DENY CHRIST making themselves an anti- christ because they forbid them entry into the covenant by not allowing them to " partake of the body of CHRIST and drink his blood".

And denying them the " FREE gift of the Holy Spirit, this annointing from CHRIST that allows them to become part of his body saying it is only available to the GB now? ( doubt they count any of the rest anymore)


So yes, knowing and using his true name is necessary for those who truly belong to him and his son.

But knowing the name that looked and sounded so much like the real thing but wasn't was exactly what the adversary wanted to keep us all ensnared and to lose out on truly knowing the one who is "THE TRUTH" believing the WTBS was the truth this whole time.

The WTBS is filthy, unclean, full of lies, hypocrisy and the god that they worship ( Jehovah) is a vengeful god who destroyes everyone not a Jehovah's Witness and they ALL " crave this day of Armaggedon".

Which is why so many that have left finding out they have been SO misled have given up altogether on Jah and his son. Which is exactly what Satan wants all along. To abandon our faith that once drew us to a religion we felt was the truth and worshiped a god whose name was very close to the real thing.

Giving up on Jah is like jobs wife saying " just curse god and die"

This is why once agan the invitation is so wonderful in Revelatipn 22:17,

" The spirit ( CHRIST ) and the bride ( his body) say.... COME!!!!!

Come to HIM ( CHRIST) and take life's water FREE! He is the life, the water source, the true bread from heaven, the means and the only way for us to be led into all truth. He is everything, and that is something that we NEVER heard and still don't from the WTBS.

Love and peace to you all
Justmom

Yes Char ( and good morning),

And using this discernment not to go down any other false paths as well that call themselves truth or allow anything or anyone else to come between us and Chirst as our mediator or father on earth.

Love to you this day and hope you are feeling better,
Justmom

WHOO-HOOO, dear, dear Loz (peace to you, luv!). I LOVE it when others hear, too!! Isn't it a wonderful... phenomenon?! And to think, ALL... COULD... if they only allowed themselves to do so... stopped hardening their heads and hearts, and stiffening their necks...

The more you turn your heart... and head... TOWARD Christ, the Copper Serpent lifted up for us by the MOST HOLY One of Israel, dear one... the more you will hear! Keep turning, then, until you are straight on! That's MY goal - LOLOL!

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar