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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:34 am 
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I thought this news item to be interesting. They sure were giving their faith a test lol.
They object to US Christian religions because they are controlled by the Government (could be) and that they are paying taxes for abortion and promotion of Homsexuality which they strongly object to. She said:
"her family was fed up with government control in the U.S. As Christians they don't believe in "abortion, homosexuality, in the state-controlled church," she said.

U.S. "churches aren't their own," Gastonguay said, suggesting that government regulation interfered with religious independence.

Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being "forced to pay these taxes that pay for abortions we don't agree with."

The Gastonguays weren't members of any church, and Hannah Gastonguay said their faith came from reading the Bible and through prayer."

This couple took a small sailing boat with 2 babies and the mans father and were trying to sail to some Polynesian Island where things were simpler. But they got damaged and were adrift for months and ran out of food. Scary. I like their spunk but think it was a bit over the top considering they had 2 babies on board. Read about it for yourself, they don't believe in organized relgion and only rely on Christ and the bible so thought it was relevant to this forum.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/family-leaves-us-sailboat-over-religious-concerns-start-141854975.html

PHOENIX - A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.

But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.

Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials, Gastonguay said. The U.S. State Department was not immediately available for comment.

The months long journey has been "pretty exciting" and "little scary at certain points," Gastonguay told The Associated Press by telephone.

She said they wanted to go to Kiribati because "we didn't want to go anywhere big." She said they understood the island to be "one of the least developed countries in the world."

Kiribati is a group of islands just off the equator and the international date line about halfway between Hawaii and Australia. The total population is just over 100,000 people of primarily Micronesian descent.

Hannah Gastonguay said her family was fed up with government control in the U.S. As Christians they don't believe in "abortion, homosexuality, in the state-controlled church," she said.

U.S. "churches aren't their own," Gastonguay said, suggesting that government regulation interfered with religious independence.

Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being "forced to pay these taxes that pay for abortions we don't agree with."

The Gastonguays weren't members of any church, and Hannah Gastonguay said their faith came from reading the Bible and through prayer.

"The Bible is pretty clear," she said.

The family moved in November from Ash Fork, Arizona, to San Diego, where they lived on their boat as they prepared to set sail. She said she gave birth to the couple's 8-month-old girl on the boat, which was docked in a slip at the time.

In May, Hannah, her 30-year-old husband Sean, his father Mike, and the couple's daughters, 3-year-old Ardith and baby Rahab set off. They wouldn't touch land again for 91 days, she said.

She said at first, "We were cruising."

But within a couple of weeks "when we came out there, storm, storm, storm."

The boat had taken a beating, and they decided to set course for the Marquesas Islands. Instead, they found themselves in a "twilight zone," taking more and more damage, leaving them unable to make progress.

They could have used a sail called a genoa, she said, but they risked snapping off the mast and losing their radio and ability to communicate.

They had been on the ocean for about two months and were low on supplies. They were out of food and were down to "some juice and some honey." She said they were able to catch fish, but they didn't see any boats.

Still, we "didn't feel like we were going to die or anything. We believed God would see us through," she said.

At one point a fishing ship came into contact with them but left without providing assistance. A Canadian cargo ship came along and offered supplies, but when they pulled up alongside it, the vessels bumped and the smaller ship sustained even more damage.

They were getting hit by "squall after, squall, after squall."

"We were in the thick of it, but we prayed," she said. "Being out on that boat, I just knew I was going to see some miracles."

Eventually, their boat was spotted by a helicopter that had taken off from a nearby Venezuelan fishing vessel, which ended up saving them.

"The captain said, 'Do you know where you're at? You're in the middle of nowhere,'" she said.

They were on the Venezuelan ship for about five days before transferring to the Japanese cargo ship, where they were for nearly three weeks before landing in Chile on Friday. The Chilean newspaper Las Ultimas Noticias reported the story of their arrival.

"They were looking for a kind of adventure; they wanted to live on a Polynesian island but they didn't have sufficient expertise to navigate adequately," police prefect Jose Luis Lopez, who took the family's statement at San Antonio, told the newspaper.

Sean Gastonguay's brother Jimmy, who lives in Arizona, said he had provided a description of the family's vessel to the U.S. Coast Guard and exchanged emails with them once they were picked up by the first boat.

"There was some concern, but we were hoping for the best, and they eventually popped up," he said. He was able to keep track of the family with the help of the Coast Guard as they were transferred from ship to ship.

Hannah Gastonguay said the family will now "go back to Arizona" and "come up with a new plan."

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:46 am 
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Here is a pic of them leaving the rescue boat. They look pretty healthy. I kind of admire them. What an adventure.

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Well, the first duty of a Christian family, indeed of any family, is to keep everyone safe. That's part of respect for life, and deep respect for life is the reason abortion is so terrible.

Having said that, a person at their wits' end should be treated with compassion and understanding, and that's the general rule that the Pope was talking about in his Rio speech that has been so very widely misrepresented, even on this forum.

The whole thing is, while we should hate the sin, we must love the sinner, because, after all, we are all sinners. Those who think they are not sinners are making a serious and arrogant mistake.

That is why we say "Lord, have mercy on us". And we believe and trust that he will.


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Become the change you want to see happening in the world, don't run away from it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:36 am 
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US taxes pay for abortions?


I am not knocking that they took a stand for something that they believe strongly in, and certainly not that they exercised their faith. But the Kingdom of Christ is no part of this world. You can't sail to it, and away from this world.


Christ also said to render unto Caeser what is Caesers... and he paid his taxes, that could have gone to anything. He never told his disciples to worry about what those taxes went TO. Perhaps because all governments are part of this world, as is money and taxes.

At least they did not refuse to pay their taxes, but simply tried to leave.

But taxes also pay for war... and there are terrible atrocities and injustices being done by those... and there was no mention of that.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:02 am 
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SO funny (peace to you all!) - I PROMISE I was going to post what dear tec (peace, luv!), did... almost verbatim - LOLOLOL!

Nothing more to add, 'cept if they were reading their Bibles, not sure how they missed this... so as to put those dear little ones at such risk. Ah, well...

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