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In your opinion what symbols do we need? And if the answer is 0, then why does God use symbols?

-Sab

Yes, CHAR, I know what you LATER said. But you have said that you left the rcc, and that your understanding changed, does not change what you said to us... and what we went by.

You do continue to throw out little digs and snark though, Char... and it is uncalled for. I am not doing a happy little triumph. Just stating what has happened, so that perhaps you can stop and think before accusing others. So that you also cannot falsely accuse others.

The mistake that you say others have made, then, is based on your mistaken words. How is it fair, just, or even honest... to make an accusation against others for your mistake?

Peace,
tammy

He wrote in direct response to the Byzantine iconoclasm that began in the 8th century by the Byzantine emperor Leo III and continued by his successor Constantine V. St. John maintains that depicting the invisible God is indeed wrong, but he argues that the incarnation, where "the Word became flesh" (John 1:14), indicates that the invisible God became visible, and as a result it is permissible to depict Jesus Christ. He argues: "When He who is bodiless and without form... existing in the form of God, empties Himself and takes the form of a servant in substance and in stature and is found in a body of flesh, then you draw His image..."
He also observes that in the Old Testament, images and statues were not absolutely condemned in themselves: examples include the images of cherubim over the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:18-22) which God instructed Moses to make, the embroidered figures of cherubim angels which God told Moses to make on the curtain which separated the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle tent (Exodus 26:31), or the bronze serpent mentioned in the book of Numbers.
He defends external acts of honour towards icons, arguing that there are "different kinds of worship" and that the honour shown to icons differs entirely from the adoration of God. He continues by citing Old Testament examples of forms of "honour": "Jacob bowed to the ground before Esau, his brother, and also before the tip of his son Joseph's staff (Genesis 33:3). He bowed down, but did not adore. Joshua, the Son of Nun, and Daniel bowed in veneration before an angel of God (Joshua 5:14) but they did not adore him. For adoration is one thing, and that which is offered in order to honour something of great excellence is another". He cites St. Basil who asserts, "the honour given to the image is transferred to its prototype". St. John argues therefore that venerating an image of Christ does not terminate at the image itself – the material of the image is not the object of worship – rather it goes beyond the image, to the prototype

The Holy Ejaculation, eh? That's about as insulting to the Spirit as you can get.

I am really glad I'm not you.

I think some people DO need them yes, sorry if I wan't clear.

Jean Piaget was one of the most important and influential people in the field of Developmental Psychology. He believed that humans are unique in comparison to animals because we have the capacity to do "abstract symbolic reasoning." His work can be compared to Lev Vygotsky, Sigmund Freud, and Erik Erikson who were also great contributors in the field of Developmental Psychology. Today, Piaget is known for studying the cognitive development in children. He studied his own three children and their intellectual development and came up with a theory that describes the stages children pass through during development.

Some people? Think again.



-Sab

Now, we BOTH know that THAT's not the truth. Else, you wouldn't cry so much that no one is listening to YOU... but everyone SHOULD... while having problems that it seems people ARE listening to ME. They're not. They're just listening to what I am sharing as to the One they SHOULD be listening to... and do/are trying to. The One YOU should have listened to... before you blasphemed. Because he DID allow me to warn you so as to keep you from doing it. Unfortunately, your "righteous indignation" has led you to it.

No Sab, I realize we all have pain. But yes, we can ask to be healed. And the peace and joy and love and contentment that comes from knowing Jah will on most days ( lol) surpass our pain.

It is anger that alienates us from Jah. It is what alienated Cain from Jah. Anger towards our brother or sister can be like being " a manslayer or murderer".

This anger is real for us. And the WTBS breeds this in its people.
I understand really I do. But Jah, Christ and many of us here do love you despite the fact that we CANNOT follow what you say as being truth.
We owe each other love. Love will always speak truth. Truth will not always be easy to receive.
But we all will stand and have an accounting as to who our master IS!

I must continue listening to the one who led me out of the WTBS. And although there were and are pieces of puzzle that are not complete with me yet, one day that beautiful puzzle will be complete.
I have faith in this! And I have faith in the words of the spirit that speaks every piece of this puzzle in between. When and as I am ready, he feeds me.

Love to you always
Justmom

Be silent, woman (1 Corinthians 14:34).

-Sab

The Cross is power and strength, in that symbol lies the truth of the very message of Christ.

As you deny both it and the name of Jesus, you have no idea how much that says.

ah hell no

How you and Shelby and justmom love your little triumphs, your little gloating sessions, especially if you can mock me at the same time.

Mock away. I don't care one jot.

I make mistakes and I learn from them. Do you admit yours?...you made a huge mistake following Shelby's course.

Be silent, woman (1 Corinthians 14:34).

-Sab