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 Post subject: Re: Nazarites
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Probably best to let it all drop at this point.


You are probably correct : )


I think I have shared as I can... others can choose what they do with what has been shared here, by anyone.


Peace and love to you,

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:25 pm 
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Now, Shel, that is really naughty. On two counts. Firstly, given that you are clearly talking about me, you should say so. This business of saying "someone" rather than naming a person is kind of weird, sort of passive-aggressive, which doesn't sit well at all.


Sigh. It's not passive-aggressive, dear Char (peace to you!). It was merely an attempt to keep the discussion between me and dear Sab (peace to you!), and if you wanted to join in, you, without referring directly TO you these many pages later, in case someone new decided to read the thread. That's it and that's all. Had I mentioned you, they might no go back read the ENTIRE thread and just assume they "know" what's going on from that point... which can be very misleading.

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Secondly, you asked me to explain why I had qualified a statement as I had. I spent some time in replying to your question. You sought an explanation. I gave it to you. You appear to have ignored it, and you have reiterated the same baseless accusation.


Oh, no, I didn't ignore it. I just thought better of responding to it, given where the discussion has gone since I first referred to it. I don't think you... or at least one other... can take what I would share. So, I simply accepted your comments and left it at that.

Dear Char, may I ask you something? Do you think the JWs with which you have issues would consider your accusations "baseless"? Don't get me wrong; I agree with you as to most about them. My point, though, is that just because one disagrees and "sees" another's lack of faith (which I am SURE you believe is the case with JWs, yes?) doesn't mean they're judging them or thinking poorly of them. Yes? Or do you think JWs have faith in God and Christ?

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I've just read your latest post, which was posted as I was writing this. Actually, Shelby, you say it isn't important, but it IS in fact important. I thoroughly dislike being called into doubt, asked to explain something, going to lengths to oblige at the expense of something else I really ought to have been doing and then not only having that explanation ignored but the same accusation being repeated. And then see you saying it doesn't matter.

It really won't do.


Dear, dear Char... I am going to ask you something else. What that not the VERY thing that occurred on this thread from the start? Someone called for explanations... I and others (some of us going to great lengths) responded... some, including you, expressed doubts... etc.? What issue did I take with you for doing so, dear one?

Now, I CAN comment on your response... but, again, it is not important enough to ME... to do so, as I believe it will add FURTHER to the contentiousness of the discussion... and I don't want that. But if you insist, then you will leave me no choice. I leave it to you to decide, dear one, but please keep in your mind and heart that it is me... and am not sure I can do so in any way other than what I know.

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:23 pm 
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If " truth " that exists in all religions was something that was acceptable to Jah, why did Jah eventually tell His people that their house had been abandoned to them, and destroy his own beloved city's temple and form of worship? Why if truth even some was there?


Judaism underwent a refining process which is mentioned in Psalms:

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And the words of the Lord are flawless,
like silver purified in a crucible,
like gold refined seven times.



-Sab


This refining process was called " being nailed to the tree."
FULFILLED!

And now this law was to be on hearts, not on stone or in temples, physically.
It was a spiritual temple NOW being built up with CHRIST first as the chief cornerstone and All those belonging to him as being pillars, gates, stones making up this new city.

But I understand you may disagree. It is okay by me. I love ya anyways.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Love Justmom


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 Post subject: Re: Nazarites
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:49 pm 
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Yes, well, according to YOU... I'm not in that Palace... so no worries about ME putting MY feet up there, yes?


The Kingdom of God is human enlightenment which you have strayed from. The Palace is of God is all of existence which you exist within.

There are many rules you do not account for. This is ignorance, the first poison.

You think that God's name can exist as paint on a banner? God's name exists well beyond the realm of speech or written word. This is attachment, the second poison.

You call many agents of darkness and actively avoid them. This is aversion, the third poison.

We all dine in the Palace of God. I bid you farewell!

-Sab


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 Post subject: Re: Nazarites
PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:35 pm 
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Fare THEE well, dear one, on YOUR journey... and peace to you while you're "travelling"!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SA, skipping merrily away, while initially wondering:

(1) why others can use a name with reference to God, including but not necessarily limited to "Elohim," "Jesus," "Allah," "Jehovah," "Yahweh," and more; and

(2) how one can call ON a name they must call on but apparently no one knows, or can know (since it can't be spoken OR written)... but then is reminded by the Holy Spirit and HOLY One of Israel that while the real name of the MOST High God IS beyond the ability of tongues, ears, and pens of this world because our physical languages are limited TO this world... that just as HIS real name is beyond this world (Revelation 19:12)... this world HAS been given a name - "JAH... who breathes into existence armies (of spirits)"... or "JaHVeH" - which is borne out HIS name, he the One who came IN the name of JAH: JAH eSHUA, the Chosen One of... wait for it... JAH... or "MischaJAH"... and that at some point those who belong to HIM will also be given names that originate OUTSIDE of this world (Revelation 2:17)... and so will not be mentionable outside the beloved City, the NEW Jerusalem (Revelation 22:15...

... and so THANKS dear Sab for raising the issue so that she could BE so reminded!


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:47 pm 
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Location: I dare you to close your eyes...
<.<

I got the last word in :P

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:11 am 
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No you didn't, Hellish Pup!

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:43 am 
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Bastard! Respect my authorita!!! :D

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:49 am 
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It's all the fault of those Nazarites!


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:11 pm 
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More as to my Lord's Naziriteship (peace to you all, and my apologies to the dear Doggy... peace to you!... for surpassing his "authoritah" - LOLOL!). As you might remember, I have shared that things come in "parts" sometimes, with the "foundation" being laid first. In light of this discussion (as to my Lord's Nazariteship) thus far, I am directed by that One to ask you:

Did Christ reinstitute HIS Nazariteship?

Then, I am to share and ask:

The terms of the "vow" was that IF a man/woman drank wine, touched a dead body, etc., they had to shave their head, commit it to be burned, and then, seven days later start the vow period anew (Number 6:1-21). If, by touching dead bodies, drinking wine, etc., Christ "ended" his literal vow so as to have to start it ANEW, could it be that's why, after taking the cup, giving thanks and telling those present “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins," he THEN said:

"I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” Matthew 26:27-29

???

Because the first resurrection does not take place until he returns, he will not have "touched" another dead body sicne the last person he resurrected while here.

I am not permitted to "tell" you what I received on this matter. I am directed to simply share the information... and questions... with you... and then encourage, EXHORT even... YOU to go... and ask about it for yourselves. May those who DO... be granted faith... and ears... so as to hear the truth about this matter.

Again, peace to you all!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

SA


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 Post subject: Re: Nazarites
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:34 pm 
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When Christ returns everything will be 'new' ... He will have served his nazariteship...as the resurrected Christ...during which time he hadn't drunk from the vine....but there is a link to Refelation 21 v 5 "Look I am making all things new" ....still listening.....and the marriage of the Lamb and his bride will mark an end ...to the vow? ....

Loz x

Edit....is it that then the whole body become spiritual Nazarites with Him?

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:06 pm 
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the marriage of the Lamb and his bride will mark an end ...to the vow


Well, there will be some "reclining at the table" and "drinking of wine" during the marriage "feast," dear Loz (peace, luv!), so...

I'd say keep listening, luv! I think you're "onto something"! Of course, that just's my opinion, so please don't take MY word for that, either - LOLOLOL!

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

SA, who did not intend this to be a quiz... just sayin'... LOLOLOL!


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:21 pm 
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Mmm...the 'marriage' will end His literal or spiritual celibacy....

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:46 pm 
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the 'marriage' will end His literal or spiritual celibacy


I'm okay leaving it there, dear Loz (peace to you!)... althought I would say "vow" over "celibacy" (I could be wrong but I think Nazarites could marry)... and just say that I am SO glad... for YOU... that you are listening!!

Peace!

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:42 pm 
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Mmmmmmm....

Very interesting my chick- A - dees ... //;)

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