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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:58 pm 
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Yesterday was a very sad day for my wife. She went to visit her parents and they would not receive her. The reason, they found out that we partake of the emblems in the commemoration. They treated us of apostates and that we would be destroyed at Armageddon. My wife cried a lot. For the record, neither my wife nor I have been disfellowshipped.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:04 pm 
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How terrible it is Jochy that the WTBS promote such unloving treatment, and without due cause, simply for examining the scriptures agains our own consciences. I'm so thankful that no religious group has any power over my own beliefs anymore.

Please pass on a hug to your wife for me. Sad for her hurt. She's made a courageous stand for Christ though, and that is so important, for her and for Him. May Jah bless you both.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:06 pm 
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Oh, Jochy, that was such a horrid thing to experience.

Your poor wife.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:15 pm 
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Oh Jochy, please tell your wife that I am so sorry that they did this to her, and please give her my love.

Christ says TO partake, for anyone who hears His call and anyone who wants union with Him. It is horrible how this organization teaches its members to ostracize people for following and obeying Christ.

Our Lord sees you and your wife. Please take comfort in Him.

There is a very marked difference between those who listen to this religion, and those who listen to Christ. For one, those who listen shun those who they believe are going to die at armageddon, and cannot intercede and offer prayers for their loved ones. Indeed, they expect that their loved ones will be killed by God if they do not listen to the wts (and in many cases, like yours, even when you are not df'd or da'd) But those who belong to and listen to Christ can offer prayers for loved ones, and ask forgiveness and mercy for their loved ones... without the fear that it might be wrong to ask God to forgive. And these ones can be HEARD.

So even though your loved ones reject you... you can continue to love them, and intercede, and ask forgiveness and mercy for them. Because they do not have the freedom or the love to do this, themselves. But YOU can. One day, they will see that your love for them did not fail.

May you both have peace and love and comfort and joy in Christ,

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:34 pm 
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thank you all for your support and words of comfort. at this very moment I am translating to my wife your beautiful words and she wishes you many blessings to all. GRACIAS.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:39 pm 
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Love to your wife, Jochy.

It's so sad, what that awful religion...that cult, because it IS a cult, does.

Love to you both. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:46 pm 
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My dear brother Jochy

Please give our comfort and love to you wife.

It truly shows how the WTBS " shuts up the kingdom from before men."
They no longer make it a personal decision as to whether one feels the calling or not and chooses to partake. The harlots cup truly is "filled" with blood of holy ones.

But my brother, rejoice for the reasons we are persecuted by THEM and our FAMILIES.
It is for the sake of the CHRIST.
He knows us and leads us out and never abandons us!

Our love to you and your household
Justmom ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:55 pm 
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Thanks again to all. It is amazing how true are Christ words on this matter.
Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:30 pm 
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Please give your dear wife our SINCEREST condolences and wish for love and peace, dear Jochy (the greatest of love and peace to you and her, both, our dear brother!). I can't add anything to what's already been stated here, except this:

Perhaps, when your dear wife is feeling better she might consider sending copies of the following from the NWT Reference Bible (or the smaller version, if you don't have the large one) with the following words highlighted/underlined to her dear parents:

From John 6:48-55 (Page 1290):

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From John 10:7-9 (Page 1296):

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From John 10:16 (Page 1297):

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From John 10:27, 28 (Page 1297):

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No need to include anything else (although, you might wish to make better copies AND include something on them that says what verses they are) as these verses don't need our words, dear one. Folks with either get them or they won't. Either way, it's up to JAH and Christ, not them OR us. Matthew 13:10-17; John 6:44 WE don't choose who does or doesn't, even as to ourselves.

That's not to say they WON'T get it, not at all - they very well might. Nor it is to say that if they don't they won't be part of the kingdom but like Joseph's brothers who initially rejected him, even sought to kill him, JAH shows mercy to whomever HE chooses. Matthew 25:31-40

The point is that the WTBTS almost NEVER refers to these verses, if EVER, with the exception of parts of John 10:16, which they misstated and misteach. It can be upon us, then, to help others learn what CHRIST says, versus what the "hired man" who purports to stand in his place and so is a thief and plunderer, says.

This, however, might help your dear in-laws understand WHY you dear ones chose to do what you did... and how they may well be passing by the very ever lasting life and resurrection... and ability to live forever... they are looking forward to.

May the undeserved kindness and mercy of our God and dear Father, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and the love and peace of His Son and Christ, our dear Lord, Master, and King, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) be upon you BOTH... and your entire household... to time indefinite!

YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:56 pm 
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Perhaps you and your dear wife are already aware of the article below, dear Jochy (again, peace to you, both!). If not, it's quite interestign and may help her see further the utter hypocrisy fomented by the WTBTS. You know, just in case things get even... mmmmm... tougher... for you dear ones down the line due to your partaking (though why they should simply because you did is a mystery, is it not, since it's supposedly no one else's business? But, we know how the WTBTS believes in making everyone else's business one's own... even though we are told by one Bible writer to "make it [our] aim to live quietly... and MIND our OWN business." Sadly, they say... but do not do, yes?). Anyway, this might give her... and you... some hope... because you KNOW JAH and Christ see their hypocrisy.

Dear Char and Burns, peace to you, both... and you dear ones might consider stopping here... or closing your eyes... so's you don't see SO much "red" (LOLOLOL!):


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Woe to those scribes and Pharisees... hypocrites...

Peace and, again, may JAH bless you and your dear household!

YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

Shellama


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:04 pm 
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Muchas gracias mi querida amiga Shelby. My wife was prepared to explain to them what the Bible really teaches (Wow, that sounds familiar) about that, but they not even allowed her entry to their apartment. Her father was outside and stopped her before she could reach the door and her mother began to raise his voice through the window and said we were going to be destroyed at Armageddon. It was very hard for her. But we will keep praying for them.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:22 pm 
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I am truly sorry to hear that, dear Jochy (again, peace to you!), and I understand how your dear wife must feel. Sometimes, though, face-to-face discussion isn't possible or conducive... or even the best course. Sometimes it's what a person READS, particularly those who walk by sight and so need to see things "in writing, that gets through to them. Something to consider, dear one.

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellama


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:41 pm 
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Jochy: You might even consider tearing out (from an old, unused, about to be thrown away, new world translation) the pertinent pages of the Bible that AGuest showed above, highlight them and underline them, and then "mail" them to your wife's parents without your return address on the envelope. That way, they will probably open the envelope and see the pages from their own version of the Bible and won't be able to help reading the verses highlighted and underlined. Might work, might not, but it certainly couldn't hurt them. Just a thought. They may assume (accurately) that it was you who sent those pages to them. But by that time, they've read the pertinent passages. May Jah bless and His Christ "shine" upon you. --Armand


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:59 pm 
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Very good suggestion. Definitely will take it into consideration. Thanks my brother Armand.


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Yes, way to "second" my motion, dear Armand (the greatest of love and peace to you, my dear, dear brother!).

Peace to you all!

YSSFS of Christ,

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