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MEDEWTYSENU SAID


http://www.policymic.com/articles/27411 ... -democracy

In short what this revamped bill means is that anyone, foreign or domestic could very quickly find themselves in a FEMA camp.

Popularly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, the regulations suspended important provisions of the German constitution, especially those safeguarding individual rights and due process of law. The decree permitted the restriction of the right to assembly, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press, among other rights, and it removed all restraints on police investigations. With the decree in place, the regime was free to arrest and incarcerate political opponents without specific charge, dissolve political organizations, and suppress publications. It also gave the central government the authority to overrule state and local laws and overthrow state and local governments. This law became a permanent feature of the Nazi police state.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10007888

YSandFSofC
Morgan
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TEC SAID

Thanks for putting both articles up, Morgan, to show how easily a pattern can repeat itself.

The more one gets attacked, the more restrictions they might put in place to hopefully prevent future attacks; then the more people are in dissent over the restrictions; which can lead to other attacks and other restrictions.

But I think the worse thing done is the shift in the WAY people think... being afraid and angry and suspicious leaks over into all aspects of life, and not just a potential terrorist threat.

Peace,
tammy

AGUEST SAID

Here's what makes me smile about things like this:

[quote]The NDAA, however, wouldn’t do much other than legalize what the government already has been doing since the Bush administration, perhaps finding it’s true origins in Vice President Dick Cheney’s “1 Percent Doctrine,” which held that if there was even an 1% chance that a person could be engaging in terrorism in the future, the government had to pre-emptively convict the person of a crime right away. Most of whom have been bearing the brunt of this largely un-American and simply inane doctrine have been immigrant-Muslim families or children of immigrants who, in the midst of the height of Islamophobia, have found themselves incarcerated for long sentences simply because of the religion they practice or the political beliefs they could one day hold.[/qoute]

Our descent began with the Patriot Act, dear MS (peace to you!). I find it curious that some, while villifying Mr. Obama as being Muslim and so just working toward handing the US over to its Muslim "enemies" on the one hand, others are apparently villigying him as being anti-Muslim by Acts such as this.

It's interesting to me, especially given the thinking of some about this site: we have enemies that some believe are planning to do us harm. Because of this POTENTIAL some have expressed the wisdom in letting them post, due to the POTENTIAL danger. And that danger really isn't far-fetched. Others (including myself, to some degree) believe that we shouldn't restrict the freedoms of ANYONE, so long as no "laws" are broken. But, then, that leaves us "vulnerable" TO violations.

I can see how this issue is much the same, but the risks and dangers are higher. How DO you stop another WTC disaster from occurring? And I don't see the same... mmmmmmm... scramble... to impose legislation upon any blonde-haired, blue-eyed, ex-US Marines... although Timothy McVeigh almost single-handedly brought down a federal building... with babies inside at the time (we don't like to talk about THAT event, though. Why IS that? Why are we STILL bemoaning the WTC disaster... and focusing all attention on that... and mouring it AS A COUNTRY... yet, barely making a peep over the Murrah Building disaster? Things that make you go "hmmmmm". I digress.).

I don't want ANYONE improperly or illegally detained. No matter WHAT their race, religion, ethnicity, etc. At the same time, I don't want myself or my loved ones... or ANYONE... to get on a plane with a bomb. Or a train. Or a bus. Or be in a building. So... what to DO?

I don't think blaming the decisions of our government is the answer. Unless we want to explore the theory that Mssrs. Bush and Cheney WERE involved in the 9/11 conspiracy... I think we have to accept that we are living in different times, right now, and perhaps we don't know what all the government knows. WE certainly didn't know Osama Bin Laden was hiding out in Pakistan. Per the media, he was holed up in some caves in Afghanistan.

It is truly sad that the WORLD is a place where freedoms are often restricted for the sake of safety. Have to be. But I don't think we can cry out and whine to a government to keep us safe... and then decry how they choose to do that. Particularly if we're going to not be a "part" of that because it is not "part" of Christ's kingdom. Those who are part of Christ's kingdom really do have to let the superior authorities work out their tasks.

What, though, if those tasks begin to infringe upon us personally... or others to the point they seem to have no voice? In all things, we are to obey God as ruler. Sometimes that means speaking up for/taking action on behalf of the oppressed, yes? Because that's what love... and justice... would do. To what extent is only tempered by love: we can't, say, return missiles - LOLOLOL!

I don't know the answer(s) to the problems and concerns of this world: who can control man who acts in opposition to God? But, again, I don't think we can decry government action that purports to keep citizens safe... while crying to be KEPT safe. Rather, submitting some other, reasonable, moral, ethical... and workable... solution might be the best course. I personally don't have one... other than to keep pointing to my Lord and HIS rulership.

Most laugh at that, though, so...

Just my $0.02.

Peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

SA

MEDEWTYSENU SAID

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:31 am Post subject:
Greeting AGuest and much love and kindness to you Fellow Servant.

My opinion as to wht there is so much focus on WTC and not the Oklahoma City bombing is pretty straight forward. Timoth McVeigh is not Muslim and so his actions dd not or do not presently have anything to do with our foreign policy. Right now our government is focused on vilifying a particular race, religion, cultural group. Much like what was done during WW2 towards the Japanese and during the Vietnam Conflict against person of South East Asian descent, be they legal American citizens or simply visitors.]

It's always been the governments (when corrupt) to place the blame for their woes upon a specific group of people in order to conceal their own actions (the governments) from the eyes of the governed and to instill a sense of Nationalist Pride of "Us vs Them", thereby ensuring for many decades that we the people won't see what is "going on behind the curtain" because we are being misled.

I like to think of it in terms of stage magic. Misdirection is a tool often employed by those who use sleight of hand tricks. They focus your attention in one place while doing something elsewhere and when it's said and done the trick seems "miraculous" or "magical" when in actuality there is a reasonable explanation. Namely we weren't paying close attention.

Atrocities of the worst kind have been committed by government leaders in just the 20th Century alone because either we didn't pay close enough attention, we didn't want to know, we didn't care (because it was happening to someone else) or we were an active participant.

So I see the Patriot Act and the NDAA as preemptive of something more sinister yet to come.
The Bible foretells a time in which all those who refuse to "worship the wild beast" would be unable to buy or sell. It foretells a time in which people would throw their money into the streets (because it's worthless, like the US dollar is quickly becoming) and that people would become faint out of fear because of the things coming upon the entire inhabited Earth. Now I know that the USA is not the entire Earth but the other countries of the world do have a tendency to imitate the US's example (in things good and bad). We also know the USA as a world power is prophesized to fall and become desolate for a time until the 8th King revives it. At which point in time all those who marvel at this action will receive their mark.

So to me I consider the words of our Lord and how he equated the natural signs of the impending occurrence of Spring to the events that are happening around us as being the signs of his impending arrival.

YSandFSofC
Morgan