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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:47 am 
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That can help, dear tec (and sorry for losing you, dear Loz) - peace to you, both! But it's actually the inflections that are important, IMHO. What I am trying to do is get those who might need to to understand the differences, as to person, for both regular and irregular verbs. Because that's what you're most going to use. So, you might want to start by learning how to say "I want, I am, You are, You sing, He puts, He drinks, We dance, We go, They have, They are..."

As with English, there are several ways to say the same thing. If you learn the "person", particular as to I/me, you, he/she, they, etc., you get a good place to start. When I wish to say something in Spanish, the first thing that usually comes to MY mind is whether it's about me, you, them, we, etc. Whether I am going, doing, wanting, saying... or YOU are... or he/she is... etc.
In teaching another how to say, for example, "I want to sing," I can go the "Yo quiero cantar" (I, I want to sing) route... or just say "Quiero cantar" (I want... to sing). Is the latter proper? Not necessarily; however, will your audience understand what you want? You betcha! Will they take offense that you didn't say it absolutely properly? I haven't run into that. Indeed, I have found that they are less intimidated when I speak "not so properly."

Again, dear one, I am not a Spanish teacher, so I am probably not the best person to "teach" this if folks want a proper education - LOLOLOLOL! But my point is that a good place to start is knowing the difference between, say, "no se" (I don't know)... and "no sabes" (YOU don't know). Or, say, "I want" (quiero) and "WE want" (queremos).

Yikes, maybe I SHOULD turn this over... because I don't want to confuse anyone - LOLOLOLOL! I mean, I can hold my own in a Spanish conversation, but teaching to others is an entirely different thing.

Okay, I'm taking applications/resumes - LOLOLOL! Dear GLT, PSacto, whoever else... do you wanna? Otherwise, these poor folks are stuck with me - LOLOLOL! (It IS only Lesson Two, though... and I think even Rosetta Stone takes a few lessons before things start to "click", so... LOLOLOL!)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:48 am 
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I'm not confused. Just need to practice it. A lesson, followed by a paragraph or a few sentences showing the way it is used helps. I'm a visual learner. Others probably learn in their own ways too.

Also, I was thinking that if some people wanted more advanced lessons, rather than the basic, then we could have two threads going and GL or someone else who wants could start an advanced one, for those who might get bored on the basics.

Also, in English you have to memorize which verbs are regular and irregular. I never paid attention to those terms, but we do have to memorize which ones use different rules. English is probably really hard to learn from an outsider's pov.

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You are doing great at explaining AGuest. I am learning oodles but boy is this making me use my thinking cap.

I don't know what regular and irregular verbs are, I better google It, hate to admit I don't know this as it shows up that I have not got the best education background Thanks to the WT society.

You have a gift for explaining things, I am actually understanding what you are getting at but it's all too much info all at once for me at least. I need to digest this and keep reviewing it.

Gracious for all your efforts here

Ok I get it now, just never heard the term regular and irregular verbs before.
I looked it up as to English meaning and instantly understood. Hey I learned something new that I already knew today lol.

Regular verb example - Roll, rolled, rolled, plan, planned, planned

Irregular verb example - break, broke, broken, Swim, swam, swum


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Zoe, i am in the same boat as you

I know what they are too, but just not by their 'title'.

I don't think you need to worry about that though, Shelby... we can google those terms.

(I hated grammar... english grammar AND french grammar. I know how to put sentences together, I hate thinking about the terms describing the process though)

You are doing a great job, Shelby!

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Yes, you're doing a great job, Shelby!

It takes me longer these days than it used to to learn languages. However, in reading through the vocabulary, I can see the root words in many Spanish words. I do know regular and irregular verbs etc, all the tenses, declensions, etc. however, it is the familiarisation that will take a bit of time, and I don't get much spare time at the minute.

That's why I felt I just needed to take it more slowly. It wasn't any kind of reproach.


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Hey, ladies... peace to you! No, I didn't take it as reproach, dear Zoe (peace!) but that my "style" is probably not in the traditional and so only meant to say that if we WANT traditional, I'm probably not the best one to take the lead in this language (heck, in ANY language - LOLOL!). I truly don't mind if someone else wantst to take the lead; I just think we need to establish that so that (1) we don't confuse everyone by possibly cross-posting, etc., and (2) one knows whether to proceed and invest the time, etc.

I realize I am the one who suggested informality and fun. I guess I meant informality and fun... along a line that folks can follow - LOLOLOL!

At least this goes to show that when I say I am nobody's teacher, you can put faith in THAT! LOLOLOLOL!

We're only a couple days/lessons in, dear ones - we'll get the kinks worked out. In the meantime, for those who ARE more advanced/want more advanced instruction, there are a plethora of FREE online language programs (just Google!), so not sure we want to have two threads going. BUT... I'm just a poster, same, as you all... so if someone WANTS to do that, why not? I'm easy.

Tell ya'll what: before I post another "lesson", let's decide what we DO want. If someone has, say, an outline... put it up and let's take a looksee. How's that?

Paz, pollos!

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Your teaching is brilliant Shelby, no probs with that at all. It's MY brain that's pretty useless Lolol. I have a lot going on learningwise, right now, so I am unable to give this any quality time just yet, but I definitely will, as soon as I can!

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I subscribed to a spanish word a day with audio pronunciation. My first word is estudiar a verb meaning to study.

I studied Spanish a lot yesterday.
Estudié español mucho ayer.

Ayer?? the pronunciation was like aajarrr, is that right?

I am studying Spanish today.
Estudie espanoles hoy

You studied Spanish today.
Usted estudió españoles hoy

I tried it in different ways so I guess this is a regular verb???


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:50 am 
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Oops I just read the rules and I am not supposed to use a online translator for my sentences. Sorry, I won't do that again.

I just hope somone will correct my baby talk Spanish. LOL

Hola and buenos dias mis amigos

My spanish word for the day is
Love - Amor
I love - Amo
I love you - te amo


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Oh so sad this Spanish thread is being neglected

My Spanish word for the day is a noun - cebolla - Onion


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:51 am 
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so sad this Spanish thread is being neglected


Not sure how you mean, dear Zoe (good morning and peace to you!). I can't answer for others (but can only assume) but I am:

1. Only planning to post a lesson 1-2/week as
a. Most classes are only 1-2/week and
b. I have various drs. appts/job tests/interviews going on; and
c. I want to keep this informal and fun (and so truly appreciate YOUR contributions!)...

2. I was out helping friends yesterday and had a job test this morning; and

3. Today is Friday and hubby is off (as well as Monday 'cause it's a holiday here)... and when he is I try to give him some time (most here know that - I've announced it SO many times they're probably sick of me doing so - LOLOLOLOL!)... and so I'm not going to get into any heavy posting today, if I can help it.

I think others are just "chewing" on what's been posted thus far (I didn't get any "homework" questions or PMs, so I assume everyone's handling things thus far).

Were you expecting/hoping for more? If so, oooh, I'm sorry but it's gonna have to come from elsewhere, dear one, as I don't want this to become a chore... for anyone, especially me because I will be returning to work sometime and so will only be able to give it once a week or so.

YOU seem to be doing great, though. Am I missing something?

Peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

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AGuest I did not mean YOU are neglecting this thread, no way.
Sorry if it came across that way. I meant no one seems to be coming here much to practice the Spanish lessons you have offered.

I bet some are just practicing offline and at their own pace, I know I can only learn slowly or it's too stressful so please ignore my silly words that sounded pushy.


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Absolutely NO worries, dear one! When one isn't sure, one should ask. I asked - LOLOLOLOL!

Paz... y hasta luego!

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Hola

Amo cebollas, pero no mucho.

Amarillo o blanca o rojo - cebollas e this thread are making cara Zoe cry.

j/k

I'm glad this is moving slowly; some weeks I don't have a lot of time to engage, just skim a little bit.


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I'm going to catch up this weekend, and review everything. I had my uncle down for a few days, and I wasn't feeling well a few days. I like your word of the day, Zoe!

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