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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 10:36 am 
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Not sure if I have posted this in the right place, but if its wrong could an admin move it to the correct place please?

Anywhoo I had this most bizarre dream, it was so real and vivid it unnerved me. Woke up feeling like I had snakes in my stomach.. Blergh

To start with Babysprout and I was were sitting on top of this sky scraper that was sloping, so we were struggling to keep our bums on there. The building opposite was a fancy hotel and we were watching people come and go out of the hotel. We had to jump off the building but we were nervous so sat for a while. Then BS decided to jump but I wasn't ready so I grabbed her, in doing do I slipped and I screamed Now at her and we both fell. Our parachutes got tangled as we were falling and my stomach rolled *like when you are on a roller coaster* my stomach rolling woke me up.

I asked last night and this morning what my dream meant but I haven't heard. Its engrained in my mind and I can't stop thinking about it.

It was a strange one, especially as I felt I was really there and not in a dream state.


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This is an appropriate place, I think dear WS (peace to you, luv!) and I would like to respond. As you know, interpretation of dreams belong to the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, so what I will share me to help you understand yours. This is what I received from His Son, my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

The "skyscraper" represents the "place" on which you have seated yourself and dear BS. It is VERY "high"... and so your "perch" is precarious. The other "building" represents the house of JAH. Others are going in but you are not because you're afraid to leave where you are even though you're having difficulty staying there (on that very high sloping residing place) because of your fear.

Dear BS, however, is NOT afraid to jump from where you two are over to the other, better (fancy) building. So SHE takes the leap (of faith). Your FEAR, however, causes you to try and stop HER... and so you BOTH fall.

This is a warning to you, dear one: if you don't CONQUER your fear you will not only fall... but "drag" dear BS down with you. Rather than leading her by means of YOUR faith... your FEAR undermines HERS. That your parachutes become entangled means you will try to depend on one another NOT to fall but that will fail. Rather, it will becomes a tangled mess that saves NEITHER of you (from the fall).

I, SA, have shared the meaning of your dream with you just as I received it from my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH ( MischaJah ). 

I TRULY hope this helps and that you are given whatever fruit of our dear Father holy spirit you might need to overcome!

The GREATEST of love and peace to you and to your household, particularly dear BS!

YSSFS of Christ, 

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:14 pm 
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Peace to you, all! In light of what was shared above, i am moved to further comment because I think... KNOW... there are others, many even, who "suffer" from fear, especially if they were raised in the WTBTS. I see it in many; I just didn't realize how many and to what extent. I mean, in RL folks tend to present as if they fear little or nothing. But as you get to know them/speak with them, you realize they really are afraid of quite a bit. Some... of everything. Literally. As some have shared, they are afraid of dying, but are also afraid of living. 

It needs to be addressed not only because it's exhausting, even debilitating, as well as faith-eroding... but, again, it DISHONORS JAH and Christ. JAH, dear ones... is the God... OF THE LIVING! To fear DEATH, then, is to glorify Death... and that's one's agent, the Adversary! In the same vein, however, to be afraid of LIVING, even of LIFE... is to dishonor JAH... through dishonoring His SON, Who IS the Life (John 14:6).

Both joy AND peace are FRUITS of God's holy spirit! Nowhere do you read that fear, anxiety, etc., are. 

Should we fear JAH? No. We should fear displeasing Him... as one WOULD fear displeasing someone they LOVE. A parent, spouse, child, friend. Or, alternatively, if we're hurting/harming/messing with someone He loves/who belongs to Him. Then, yes. Because He has PROMISED to take care of such ones... even handle their enemies, so that THEY don't have to, that THEY don't sin (because who of us CAN cast the first stone... without actually being a hypocrite?).

The WTBTS, however... and many "christian" religions... don't teach joy OR peace. Or, if they do, it's not TRUE joy or peace. Why? Because they don't truly KNOW true joy and peace! Who do YOU know who loves someone they are FORCED to love? Or someone they are THREATENED into loving? Even if the threats are subtle, indirect, just implied. Who WANTS to love someone under those circumstances? I certainly don't.

And neither JAH nor Christ WANT us to. However, there is one, our Adversary, who wants us to turn our BACKS on JAH and Christ, indeed CURSE JAH... and die. And so, what does he use? Think of it: if YOU wanted someone to hate and turn AWAY from another... what would YOU use? If you spoke against such a one openly, well, you're gonna show yourself to be the true bad one, yes? So, you've got to convince folks to do what you want them to do... even curse God... getting them to do it WILLINGLY. And HOW MANY actually "HATE" GOD... JAH... BECAUSE of the fear-inspiring "monster" religion... particularly the Jews, Christians, and Muslims... have fomented?!!?

We of the Body of Christ, however, don't have to look/listen to man as to the TRUE nature and personality of the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. WE... HAVE HIS SON to look at and listen to! And what did HE ever do or SAY that we should fear HIM? 

Please... forgive my zeal, here. But for me, it's same as if someone were to speak of one of YOU dear folks and try to tell me/others that we should be in fear (of you). I KNOW BETTER.

And I know better as to the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. I know better... because I KNOW His IMAGE, His exact representation... His SON. And JUST like his Father, indeed in IMITATION of his Father... HE is COMPASSIONATE... MERCIFUL... SLOW to anger, ABOUNDING in love, kindness, and faithfulness. Upholding love to thousands... upon thousands... and FORGIVING wickedness, rebellion and sin.

If that is the SON... and the Son learned FROM THE FATHER... how else COULD the Father BE? We cannot see the Father, but we CAN see the Son. If not literally, with our eyes of FLESH... then CERTAINLY spiritually, with our eyes of spirit!

How? By means of his works!!!

The only people who needed to fear Christ were those who betrayed him... and pierced him. And even those... he asked the Father to forgive. And THEY didn't even ASK him to ask! Would he not, then, ask the same.. forgiveness... for those who DIDN'T/DON'T betray/pierce him... if they ASKED him to??

OMGoodness, dear ones. LEAVE off you fear. LET go. COME to the One who sets you FREE from sin... and so, from worry and anxiety. TAKE his yoke and carry HIS load. For HIS load is LIGHT... and HIS yoke... IS kindly.

REST. Leave off your own "works" of WORRYING... and REST. Finally. Just... rest.

Don't you WANT that? Surely, you DO! EVERYONE does! Okay, so maybe you don't think you DESERVE that. But THAT... is the BEAUTY... of the GOOD news of Christ: that rest... GOD'S rest... is NOT because you DESERVE it! It's due to UNdeserved kindness... and so God's MERCY. ALL one has to do... is TAKE IT. ACCEPT it. RECEIVE it!

And then stop. Just... stop. Doing your OWN will... which will can include worrying... because of the need to (be in) control. Well, control comes with a lot of others things, dear ones. Mainly... judging. Because it spends an awful lot of time looking at others, at what THEY do/don't do... and then comparing that to what one is doing/has, etc., oneself. Because that need to control creates a "measuring" stick that one uses to gauge "where" they are (in life).

We, the Body of Christ, however, only have one measuring stick: Christ, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJAH). HE... is the "chief perfecter" of our faith, the ONLY One we must look at, look to, and listen to... so as to be found "worthy" before God. And when we do THAT... we put ourselves in line to have WHATEVER "deficit" we possess... or present... covered over, blotted out, even washed away... so at to appear CLEAN... and HOLY... before the MOST HOLY One of Israel.

You can do this, dear ones...

And, again, please... forgive my zeal. It's simply anger at what those who CLAIM to belong to God... and CLAIM to know Christ... have fomented in mankind for millenia. And it's all based on lies. Lies that one NEEDS to fear JAH... and lies as to the kind of Person the MOST HOLY One of Israel is. 

But we don't HAVE to be misled about that. All WE have to do is look at... and listen to... the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Son and Chosen One OF JAH (MischaJah). Even if we can't hear him (clearly) yet... we have no reason not to READ his words. Enough of them have been recorded for us so as to know him, to some degree... and so, know better.

Peace... and JOY... to you ALL!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel


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Peace to you Watersprout!

Worry is the thing that my Lord has warned me about stopping, and one way that He told me was in my dreams. (which also stems from fear, which stems from a lacking in faith) When He first told me to STOP worrying, and showed me the consequences of NOT listening to Him, I did not think it was possible for me to stop. I mean, I said to Him and to me, okay... but realized later that at the same time I said okay, deep inside, thought I can't do that, its impossible; I'm a worrier; that is what I have always been; that is who I am. I also worried that if I don't worry anymore, then nothing will motivate me to DO what I should be doing. That if I really feel that much joy and freedom, then I'll just get lazy and do nothing anymore.


Well, I was wrong and our Lord is right and true. Yeah... big surprise there, right? LOL.

Not too long ago (about a year later from above), I realized... or rather, I think He asked me (helping me to realize the truth)... did I think that He would tell me to do something that I literally COULD NOT do? And of course I realized that He would NOT do that! Because where would be the love in that? Him telling me to do something that He knows I literally/physically/spiritually cannot do?

Then I understood that if He has told me to stop worrying, then I CAN stop worrying. (as He has told all of us: Do not worry... and as He has also told us not to be afraid: Luke 12:32 Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the Kingdom) It IS possible NOT to worry and NOT to be afraid... because our Lord Jaheshua, the Christ and the Holy Spirit, the Holy One of God, [b]has said so[/b... and He is the TRUTH.

Once I realized that He would not tell me to do something that is impossible, then I KNEW that I could ask Him to help me stop worrying; to give me whatever fruit I needed - more faith; more love; more strength; anything - and that He would, and that I can/will stop. Just knowing that I could and would be able to stop worrying was in itself so FREEING, and faith strengthening.

AND... He also told me (or rather RE-told me because He has told me before)... that I do not need worry to motivate me, nor is that what HE wants TO motivate me... but rather, LOVE (and faith), for Him and God - and we love because they loved us FIRST.

Fear and worry PARALYZE us. KEEPING us from faith, and from exercising our faith and our love... with our WHOLE heart, soul, mind, strength.



What He told me was truth - same as what He has told YOU - and we know that Truth comes from love. So put your faith in Him, WS... and know that if He has told you that you must stop being afraid - that you can stop being afraid; ask HIM to give you what (fruit) you need TO be able to obey Him. For you AND for your daughter.



Peace and love to you, and whatever fruit you need my sister, from Christ who gives these things,
your servant and sister, and fellow slave of Christ,
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Please... forgive my zeal, here. But for me, it's same as if someone were to speak of one of YOU dear folks and try to tell me/others that we should be in fear (of you). I KNOW BETTER.

And I know better as to the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. I know better... because I KNOW His IMAGE, His exact representation... His SON. And JUST like his Father, indeed in IMITATION of his Father... HE is COMPASSIONATE... MERCIFUL... SLOW to anger, ABOUNDING in love, kindness, and faithfulness. Upholding love to thousands... upon thousands... and FORGIVING wickedness, rebellion and sin.


Amen, and thank you for sharing this. This really spoke to me.


Peace to you,
your sister and servant and fellow slave of Christ,
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:37 pm 
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Peace to you Shelby!

Fear is a big part of my life, I'm consumed by anxiety. So the interpretation of this dream explains a lot. I really need to offload this fear as it could be a cause of the gastric migraines I am suffering with.

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It needs to be addressed not only because it's exhausting, even debilitating, as well as faith-eroding... but, again, it DISHONORS JAH and Christ. JAH, dear ones... is the God... OF THE LIVING! To fear DEATH, then, is to glorify Death... and that's one's agent, the Adversary! In the same vein, however, to be afraid of LIVING, even of LIFE... is to dishonor JAH... through dishonoring His SON, Who IS the Life (John 14:6).


Exhausting doesn't begin to explain it, I have been exhausted since I was five years old. *light bulb* I started suffering with migraines when I was five, I am becoming more convinced that fear/anxiety is a main culprit to these migraines. Best off load the fear and find out. Oooo to have energy and be pain free, sounds divine lol

I never thought of fearing death to be glorifying it and its agent! To be frightened of living is engrained in a born in, to enjoy life meant that you were displeasing Jehovah and you wouldn't survive Armageddon. If you suffered with negative emotions like depression then it showed how faithful you were, you were 'suffering'. To be excited about life was WRONG! To enjoy life was WRONG! So many in the kh I was in suffered from depression, it was rampant! Shows how evil the WT is yet again.

You have given me a lot of information to absorb, so I think a cup of tea and some *ahem* milk chocolate butter cookies are in order lol


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Hi Tammy peace to you also!

Worry is part of my life, it resides in my gut controlling every minute of my day, even causing nightmares. Fear is so paralysing, it stops you from living, it stops you from experiencing the fun parts of life. BS is also a worrier and its completely my fault, she's picked that up from me and I HAVE TO stop it so BS can be free. She has her whole life in front of her and for her to be crippled, *and yes it really does cripple you,* by fear/worry/anxiety, its just not happening. That child of mine is going to experience freedom from a young age and not be crippled well into her 30's. I am determined to get rid of this worry and experience FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOM!!!!!


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just out of curiosity, i searched and came upon a hit i chose to share:

http://www.unclesirbobby.org.uk/dreamdi ... craper.php

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Tall buildings are usually a metaphor of some kind - confidence, abilities, or perhaps your interest in something. Think of the overall mood of the dream - if you are scared whilst at the top of a building (suffering from heights) then this may indicate that you are are doing something or meeting people who intimidate you. So you have been thinking you are out of your depth.

QUESTIONS to help you make associations(pick the one that makes most sense to you)
- Did you have to face a major test of your abilities yesterday?
- Are you going to have to face some major test on the actual day of your dream?
- Could the dream be a premonition of some testing situation on the actual day of the dream?
- Are you lacking in confidence right now?
- Have people made you feel especially confident and good about yourself right now?
- Are you wanting to prove your skills and abilities?

KEY WORDS :Proving or failing, confidence, testing, feeling good or bad, demanding respect(write down some quotes that capture your key feelings on issues that have been dominating your mind. Then see if any of these words could appear in those quotes)

KEY PHRASES(Pick a quote which captures your feelings right now. Think especially of the day before the dream) :
- "I have been feeling so good about it"
- "I need to show how able I am "
- "It is about confidence"
- "A chance to prove my abilities"
- "I demand respect"
- "I need to show how strong I am"
- "I feel lacking in confidence"
- "they made me feel so good about it"
EXAMPLE DREAMS

Example dream : A dream about a top floor linked to the dreamer thinking about his studies. He sometimes thought the things he was learning seemed pointless but he knew it was for the best. The skyscraper symbolised how this would improve his confidence and expertise.
Example dream : A dream about a college in a skyscraper linked to the dreamer expecting such a good day. He ended up feeling deflated and lacking in confidence. The skyscape symbolised how this day could have provided him an opportunity to prove his abilities (to 'stand tall').
Example dream : A dream about fighting aliens at the top of a skyscraper linked to the dreamer feeling alone and cutting himself off from people. The top floor symbolised his inability to mix with people who were more confident and able than him - he had chronic confidence problems.
Example dream : A tall building symbolised the stand the dreamer made the night before - she was demanding respect from her husband.
Example dream : A dream where the dreamer is locked on the top floor linked to her trying to stand up to some cowboy builders. The top floor symbolised her confidence in standing up and insist on them completing the work.
Example dream : A dream coming down an elevator shaft in a tall building linked to the dreamer trying to maintain the quality of his general work whilst having to concentrate on other things. The skyscraper symbolised his attempts to maintain the highest standards whilst falling down symbolised him knowing that standards would suffer.
Example dream : A skyscraper linked to the dreamer becoming pregnant. The skyscraper symbolised the dreamers feeling of elation - having a baby made her feel so much more complete and special especially amongst other women.
Example dream : Trying to jump off a top floor linked to the dreamer being told that she should be proud of being psychic yet this just scared her.
Example dream : Wandering around a skyscraper in a dream linked to the dreamer feeling a little lost and wishing for some encouragement from those around her.
Example dream : A skyscraper dream linked to the dreamers wish to put his opinions across in as confident and commanding a way as possible. He was aiming to be as good as possible. (he wanted to 'stand tall')
Example dream : A skyscraper dream was linked to the dreamers difficulty mixing with people who were confident and out going. She felt out of her depth. Skyscrapers can represent situations which are challenging. They are a symbol for the need to reach the heights of our abilities.
Example dream : Climbing a skyscraper represented the dreamers wish to rapidly improve his health.
Example dream : The top of a skyscraper symbolised the dreamers wish to put every effort into making something as good as possible .
Example dream : A dream where the dreamer was suffering from heights whilst up a skyscraper was linked to his thoughts about his own confidence problems. He particularly struggled meeting people who and lots of confidence and ability so therefore his fear of being high up a skyscraper was a symbol for his real life fear of mixing with people at the top level.
Example dream : A skyscraper dream linked to the dreamer wanting to do as well as he could in life and to motivate himself to think as positively and confidently as possible.
Example dream : A skyscraper symbolised the dreamers relationship with a woman he was attracted to. Things were going well (symbolised by a tall building)
Example dream : Skyscrapers symbolised a moment when the dreamer wanted to stand tall and be recognised for his achievements and abilities.
Example dream : A ruined skyscraper represented a new interest which had now lost its appeal. The tall building represented his huge interest in this - the ruins symbolised the loss of interest.
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http://www.dreambible.com/dreamdictionary/s3.html

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Skyscraper

To dream of a skyscraper represents accomplishments, high ideals, or power. Being recognized for your superior achievements, resources, or talents. You view of yourself or others as superior. An area of your life where you feel you have risen above others. Elevated social or professional status.

Negatively, a skyscraper may reflect your sense of total power superiority over others or a feeling that someone else's power towers over yours.

To dream of building a skyscraper represents you view of yourself or someone else that is working towards a high level of recognized achievement, status, or power. Working hard to be noticed as the powerfullest, most skilled, or best in your field. Trying hard to elevate your status above others.


i'm just googlin' around sprout. but there is a lot of different dreams about skyscrapers around, so have a gandy.

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Come on people, let your brains do their maintenance and concentrate on real life.
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OUTLAW KNOWS!!!

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I have to ask, dear Skalls (peace to you!) and I mean NO offense but am really curious as to the source of the interpretations you shared. Not that I take issue with YOU. I just wonder: how to people interpret dreams? How do they... perhaps even those you quoted say they do it? I guess I'm curious as to how they know the interpretation is accurate. Is there a science to it? A "gift"?

Not that I dispute; I realize JAH/JAHESHUA are not the ones who utter inspired expressions (expressions from a spirit to our spirit(.

Do they say? It would be very interesting to know, IMHO.

Peace... and dear WS (peace to you as well!)... now that your eyes have been opened you only need keep your ears opened as well and you'll be led well on your way!

Dear tec... the greatest of love and peace to you, luv, and thank YOU for sharing that AND for your great faith. It is TRULY a comfort!

Peace to all of you dear ladies!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

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Hey Skally is that from the "Dream dictionary"? I read those interpretations and none of it fitted me, I know its definitly worry related.

I sometimes use the dream dictionary when I have random dreams and they make sense, im not sure who write's them. I know you can buy books about learning how to interpret your dreams.


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yea, i was just inside the search engines 'gathering'.

hope you slept well last night. i did! g:)

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I see what you're saying you two. And the source shelbers was posted above the quote.

As I said above, I just went into the engines gathering items, then posted them. Yet, yes indeed, I get where you are coming from. No offense taken.

We truly are the only other One who could possibly Be Able to Know what Our Dream[state] is displaying to our Souls.

Thanks for the feedback.

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