MEDEWTYSENU SAID
when I used to be on JWN and often had these discussions one of the things that struck me was two-fold. One people questioned the authority of the Bible and whether it was accurate. Many of the things said in the Bible have been proven correct over a long period of time.
Then on the other side of the fence you have the one who quote scientific papers or "authorities" on certain matters but dismiss out of hand other scientific papers/finding that support Intelligent Design. it's quite the conundrum and they simply cannot see how what they are doing is the same as any religious person who supports one doctrine or teaching over another because "some guy said so and I believe him". Many things scientific that were once thought as fact is now regarded as fiction and is never brought up or excuses are made. Einstein said nothing can travel faster than light and it was accepted fact for decades until recently when CERN did exactly that. Accepted Fact becomes fiction.
What they're failing to realize is human science isn't very dependable. We've overturned different accepted facts of scientific knowledge in a very short period of time. Yet many things in the Bible has withstood the test of time, contradicting what science had to say on a subject, being an object of ridicule for it and then later proven correct.
Such things as the existence of the great city of Nineveh whom scholars said never existed, until it was found and they had to eat their words.
http://classic.net.bible.org/dictionary ... rd=NINEVEH http://www.ultimatebiblereferencelibrar ... Bible.html It seems to me that what has happened when believers become Atheists is that they have traded one set of beliefs for another and become just as zealous as an atheist as they were as a believer. The problem isn't whether either of them is true or false but that the person themselves had no true root in themselves. They readily exchanged one set of beliefs for another. Atheism cannot be proven, just as Christianity is circumstancial to those who do not hear and have not experienced Yahveh working in their lives.
I too had this problem for a long time and finally realized that the fault lay entirely with me and not Yahveh. I am the one who failed to thoroughly search him out, I am the one who failed to seek, to keep knocking, to keep asking and to have patience.
Yahveh said the Israelites were a stiff-necked people (refusing to bow in obeisance). that describes most of humanity. If we didn't "discover" it or "invent" it, then it's not important. We also want glory and adulation for ourselves. If God suddenly descended from the clouds and shook the very heavens, there would still be doubters or people would say it was done with smoke and mirrors, because we as a race are so hard headed and stiff-necked. We have to learn to not be selfish and not seek our own glory.
You just cannot convince some people no matter the evidence you present. Think of Pharaoh in the time of Moses and how he behaved despite seeing all ten plagues. He never believed, he just wanted the plagues to stop, for had he believed he wouldn't have followed the Israelites into the Red Sea. he would had cut his losses and be glad to still have his life. Instead his hard heart led him to do something truly stupid. Of course it saved the Israelites from further pursuit and magnified Yahveh's name, but it was a stupid thing for Pharaoh to do.
YS and FSoC
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