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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:32 am 
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Sunday Morning Coming Down: I love that song sung by Vicki Carr. (Oops! Sidetracked….)

Anyway, back to that Sunday morning’s conversation with Jaheshua subsequent to the conversation regarding the meaning of Christ/Messiah and “a” Christian / “a” Messiah. The conversation shifted from that subject to the subject of “unless blood is poured out no forgiveness takes place.” I have pondered this a number of times before but this time (obviously) was different.

I asked the Master why it was necessary for ‘blood to be poured out’ in order for ‘forgiveness to take place.’ Not that I was questioning the rightfulness or righteousness of this, I wasn’t. I was asking for an explanation so that I could understand it. I told him, after all, Lord, we “here” often transgress and sin against each other, against our wives, against our husbands, against our children, our children against us, against family members, against strangers, etc., and yet we then often times ask for forgiveness from those we have wronged, or they of us, and we often “grant” it, in all of these situations, and no blood is poured out yet forgiveness takes place, and we get on with life.

I asked why in the great scheme of things was it/is it necessary for blood to be poured out. I was remembering the great and constant animal sacrifices at the Temple in ancient Jerusalem like when the Temple was inaugurated—thousands (or so it seemed as I read the account) of animals were sacrificed. I remembered the blood of the animals being sprinkled on the altar, on the book of the law, on the people, etc., etc.

My Lord did not respond to this. He did not answer THIS question of mine. (I assume that this question will yet be answered at some future time.)

I continued on. . . . I told him that when I read in the book of Hebrews about the Covenant (Old and New), that the Covenants “sounded” more like a "Will" rather than a Contract/Agreement. Now we know that a Covenant IS an Agreement/Contract between or among two or more parties and certainly that was what was here. Yet, in my reading of it, especially Hebrews 9, it sounded more like the writer of Hebrews was describing a “Will” in addition to an Agreement/Covenant. (I saw in my mind’s eye the Master smile.) As the biblical text states, in order for a Will to become effective, someone has to die. My Lord said to me that the Covenants were indeed Contracts/Agreements AND quasi-Wills. OMG!!! My Lord affirmed that this was so. This understanding ‘hinted’ at the necessity of blood being poured out, although the conversation, as I stated, did not go further into that aspect.

My Lord then ended the conversation with me suggesting I “look it up.” Don’t misunderstand me. I believed/believe my Lord—completely. I did not doubt what he stated about Covenants, Agreements, or Wills. It was just another “ah-ha” or “OMG” moment for me.

The conversation ended there.

I got up out of bed and went downstairs and ‘looked it up’ as he suggested I do. And sure enough there are scholarly “authorities” (I used that word lightly) who indeed confirm that the Greek term used for Covenant can also be used for God’s “Will.” It was then that I noticed in the various biblical texts that it is often written “this is God’s will,” “God’s will is,” and the word “will’ took on greater meaning than just the generic ‘want(s),’ ‘desire,’ etc. This is God’s Will!

And there you have the end of that conversation on that Sunday morning.

May you all have the Lord’s Peace. Come! Take life’s water free.

--Armand


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:38 am 
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Interesting, Armand, thanks for sharing that with us.

Some things to ponder and ask about.


Peace to you,
your sister and servant and fellow slave of Christ,
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Thank you for sharing this, dear Armand (peace to you, dear one!)... and what you're speaking of is a sacred secret that MOST do not get. That both "testaments"... the Old AND the New... are as you state: JAH's wills. NOT JAH's wills as in "Here's what JAH wants you to DO; here's what He wills us to do..." but His Wills as in... these are His "Last Will and Testaments." The document one strikes so as to have his household handled upon his death. And yes, that is exactly what these two "laws" were/are. But wait... why... and HOW... could the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, have a WILL... and a LAST Will/Testament, at that? My Lord has granted to me to explain:

The OLD Law/Will/TESTAMENT:

The Old Law stated the terms for ISRAEL, as a nation... to INHERIT... JAH's kingdom. They were to be a chosen race, a holy nation, a people for a SPECIAL possession: the kingdom NOT of some human... but of JAH, the MOST Holy... and creator of the spirit AND physical realm. By means of JAH's promise to Abraham, he (Abraham) and his seed would inherit that kingdom, "prepared for them from the [throwing down of the seed]."

Two (2) things would cause that Will to go into effect, be "executed":

1. Israel adhering to the terms that made them BENEFICIARIES, which was CHOOSING JAH AS THEIR FATHER (and so, listening to and obeying HIM), which choosing would make them SONS... and so IN LINE for such inheritance; and

2. JAH's death. Because death is what "executes" a Will... and begins its enforcement.

BUT... Israel did NOT show that they chose JAH as their Father; to the contrary, they showed, and continue to show, Him as anything BUT. Indeed, they have chosen almost everything... and NOT just human, but beast, insect, living, dead, animate, inanimate, false, non-existent... even IMPOSSIBLE... as their god(s). But not the One who offered them an inheritance to begin with.

However, even though Israel did not fulfill THEIR part, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, STILL fulfilled HIS part! He STILL... DIED.

Okay, wait. Died, Shel? You say JAH died? But God CANNOT die! Right?? Right! But... He did. How?

By proxy. In contract law, if one cannot fulfill the terms of his/her part, one MAY appoint a proxy! And that is exactly what JAH did. What He knew from the START He would do: deliver a proxy to fulfill His part... until such time as He could fulfill it Himself.

And that proxy was His Son, our dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). HE died... in JAH's PLACE... so that the OLD Covenant... Will/Testament... COULD be fulfilled... on JAH's part. EVEN if it wasn't fulfilled on the part of Israel. WHY? Two (2) reasons:

1. JAH cannot lie. And He made a promise, a covenant... a WILL... naming Israel as His heirs. And so, even if they didn't fulfill THEIR part, He still fulfilled HIS.

2. Had He not fulfilled it, it could potentially have stood forever, binding Israel forever... and since Israel could NEVER fulfill it completely... NEVER granting the inheritance!

So, He did a CODICIL. Which is "an addition or supplement that explains, modifies, or revokes a will or part of one."

That codicil, dear one, is the NEW Law/Covenant... (Will and) Testament!

And THIS time, it is not only open to Israel, but to all who show themselves to BE "Israel"... by means of having His Law (of LOVE)... written... ON THEIR HEARTS. Because that's where He writes it. Not on stone tablets!

And so, those who fulfill HIS Law (of love)... which is NOT the same as man's understanding/definition of "love"... but as Christ taught and lived it... and SHOWED... us... become HIS sons. And the RIGHTFUL heirs to His kingdom, even over most of fleshly Israel. I say "over", because ALL of Israel WILL be saved; however, not ALL of Israel will received the "DOUBLE honor" given to FIRST sons. Which is not just to be sons and in the kingdom... but to RULE... as KINGS... with CHRIST... in that kingdom!

But there's that second part. That tricky, "JAH must die," part. Because again, a Will cannot go into full force and effect until the one who strikes (creates) it... dies. And JAH... cannot die.

Or... can He?

He can... and does. But not in the way many of mankind think of death (i.e., no longer existing). Death is not a state of non-existence. It is (1) a state of sleep for the spirit; and (2) a spirit entity (Abaddon/Apollyon). The first will come to an end; the SECOND, will be destroyed... and THAT is the state of non-existence: when something is DESTROYED.

The MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, is not destroyed, though. He will ALWAYS exist. He "dies," in the sense that once His "sons" become of the SAME substance as HE is... SPIRIT... and so PURE energy... He "gives Himself" to them... by dwelling FULLY in them! NOT through Christ, as He does NOW... but in them DIRECTLY. In them... and in ALL creation!

He becomes "ALL things... IN ALL."

And so the entity that is the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, is no longer an entity that is separate and distinct from His people, but He becomes one WITH His people... so that THEY... become "Him." HIS mind, HIS thoughts, HIS heart, HIS deed, HIS love... HIS eternity.

At which time the kingdom is given BACK to His FIRST Son, the One found worthy... our dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... who then begins the "indefinitely lasting" part of his rulership!

Which part has not occurred YET. NOW, he ruling, yes. In the midst of his enemies. Those enemies... Death, the Adversary etc., still exist. While they still do, he is ruling over US, his Body, SUBDUING us... and so teaching us PEACE. Teaching us HOW to rule as kings... and PRIESTS... in GOD's kingdom.

BUT... after the destruction of his enemies, Satan, the false prophet, and the wild beast... and after the Judgment... and after the destruction of Death... and, finally, after the second death for those resurrected to judgment... he will receive the kingdom IN FULL.

And he will rule... forever and ever... with ALL of us as "MOST" holy. Because the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, will have EMPTIED HIMSELF OUT... for ALL... as His dear Son and our Lord did for US. THEN, though, we will be CLEAN enough for Him to do so... to dwell in us FULLY... to the emptying out of HIMSELF... and... forever.

He cannot turn the kingdom over to us, though, until we are FULLY ready. FULLY prepared. The ones called Beli'Jah'El, Adham, Eve, and Cain... and those like them, both spirit AND flesh... proved this. Because THEY all SHOWED what they would do. And we would, too, to some extent or another... unless and until we have been "perfected".

That perfection takes time... and is done through instruction and training by the ONLY One who has done it and proven it done thus far: the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). He PROVED it could be done and so PROVED he was "worthy"... to open the scrolls.

That opening of scrolls has revealed ALL truth to HIM... which truth he SHARES... with those who BELONG to HIM. He did not receive it BEFORE he gave his life; only after. We, though, can received as much of it as we can bear... if we GO to him, ASK him, LISTEN to him... and OBEY him.

And when we do our OWN will... we SHOW... that we are NOT from... or part... of HIM. We are showing that, if we WERE to inherit, we would do our OWN will. Which would put the ENTIRE creation at risk. So, for those who believe JAH's will is too hard... or that perhaps THEY know "better" than the Holy Spirit, Christ, himself... I would exhort you: think AGAIN. Because MUCH is at stake and there is MUCH to lose by such thinking!

I hope this helps, my dear brother... which is why I call you brother: we are, all of us of the Body of Christ... JOINT HEIRS... as to the kingdom of GOD!

That inheritance, however, is open to ANY who wish and thirst to take part in it... so long as they go to the One authorized to include them. And he is the One who, along with his Bride... US... KEEP saying, as we do, to ANY who are wishing and thirsting:

"COME! Take LIFE's (Christ's) 'water'... the holy spirit of GOD, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... which 'water' is His BLOOD, BREATH, SEED... source of LIFE... and is poured out ONLY from the innermost part of His Son and cistern, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischJah)... and BUBBLES up in one, like a FOUNTAIN... not only to impart wisdom, knowledge, and truth... but EVERLASTING LIFE... FREE!"

COME... ALL you who are thirsting!

And peace... to you ALL!

Your servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with, and a slave of Christ,

SA


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Following on from your post Shelby, this ties in with Christ being: "the heir of all things" yes?

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It does, dear Loz (peace to you, dear sister!). One cannot inherit ALL things, indeed ANYTHING, unless the Testator (here, JAH) dies. At which point, all things "willed" to the heir/beneficiary becomes the belongings of that one. And, as you pointed out, our dear Lord inherits ALL things. He as already been given some things, though ("I have made your name known to the men YOU GAVE ME; THEY WERE YOURS and you have GIVEN them to ME"), which CAN occur before a testator dies: by means of... wait for it... a trust!

Which is revocable... so long as the Trustor (JAH) is alive. Once the Trustor dies, the trust becomes irrevocable (unless there's a clause revoking something IN the trust itself).

Our dear Lord, the Primary TrustEE, was given a special "trust" - it was irrevocable from the time he gave HIS life, HE died... not the time when, JAH, the TrustOR, died. The latter is true for virtually every other trust made.

I hope this helps!

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:56 pm 
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Will and Testament. That is what i heard when I read Armand's post, but I did not really understand why... and so I let it be for the time being.


I'm so glad that you learned all you did about the law, covenants, contracts, etc, Shelby; because that explanation, in addition to Armand sharing what HE heard, as well as what I also heard (will and testament), all helps me to understand this, and recognize the truth in this. SO very interesting.

Thank you both for sharing as you heard, and as you understand,
your sister, servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy


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It is very interesting, dear tec (peace, luv!) on just HOW convenient my law schooling has turned out to be. You dear ones would be SURPRISED as what folks don't know... and lawyers DO. In the U.S., Canada, and GB. They're all pretty connected (i.e., same roots to many of our laws). But it's ALL based on the Law Covenant. Well, sorta. The property, contracts, penal, evidence, tort... all have their origins early law, primarily biblical law, meaning the law covenant/torah. S'why so many Jews are lawyers (okay, why so many lawyers are Jews... same thing): "law" is their life, so they understand the ins... outs... and how to make, if you can't find... loopholes! LOLOLOL!

On a different (but similar) note... what some miss is the love is the only loophole one needs (for the Old Law). And if one doesn't know how to USE that loophole, they only need look to, so as to learn from, Christ.

But, yeah, I LOVED law school, luv, and wish I could go further (for an LLM). Alas, no time... and absolutely no money.

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar


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Marking, so I can find it again.


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