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LEANN SAID

Hello dear Loz and shebly

Loved all your comments. Something interesting came to my attention in Anatomy class this saturday. I stayed after class to discuss it with the instructor because I have been so interested in understanding the genetic end of the human body.

We are made of up 23 pairs chromosomes. Essently 22 of them are called autosomes. They make up the 'person'. The last set determine the sex of that person. So essentially you would have a person and then they could be either a female, or male.. depending on the chromosone. The same body material is interpeted either way. For example, depending on the dominant hormone, the tissue that creates the genetalia could be a penis if testosterone is in charge or if estrogen is, than it become the clitoris. And if a women get in contact with two much testosterone her clitoris will become more similar to a penis.

So I could essentially still be me and if my chromosomes would have swung the other way and I could have ended up being interpted geneticly as a male.
To explain further, look at it this way.. who I am is not determined by my sex.. that is just an after thought of who I am.

Genesis states the division as occuring because man did not 'feel' complete without a mate, after witnessing the division of male and female amoung the animals. And so God did take a piece of him and divide them into different expressions. Truely his own body, but different ways.

It really makes us look at society and wonder why we judge the essential person not based on the 22 chromosomes but instead of the puny one that just creates a gender.

Much love and peace.
LeAnn

LEANN SAID

Shelby

Much love to you sis. I enjoyed this comment.



In fact the 'leaves' are their only true food. For he is the tree of life and that life is an 'expression' or manifestation of love. So by partaking of that manna or leaves.. they also express love and worship the father and the son. And because this is their only food, it is essentially their only purpose which is to do the will of the father and express his love as messengers.

Much love and peace
LeAnn

TEC SAID

Beautiful, both.

I also enjoyed what you wrote on chromosomes, LeAnn. I know how excited I get when something in science helps me to understand something, especially of a spiritual nature.

Peace to you both,
tammy

AGUEST SAID

I, too, understand what you mean about the chromosomes, dear LeAnn (the greatest of love and peace to you, dear one!). Those really only affect the vessel, which CAN, given the dominant hormones due to that last two chromosomes, tend to dictate gender. Some, though, do not identify with their particular vessel... and I get that... because contrary to what some believe, the spirit is not necessarily tied to the vessel. Most often, yes, especially if we are "fleshly"... but not always.



Their love is directly related to them knowing the SOURCE of their life! How can one not love who provides them with life? Well, I know some don't. Some humans... even some spirit beings. Very sad, IMHO.

e, too, dear tec (the greatest of love and peace to you, as well!). It's one of the reasons I LOVE school! The WTBTS used to lead us to believe that higher education would lead us away from God. For me, it was just the opposite - it helped resolve some things that previously SEEMED not to make much sense! The things one can learn that can HELP on that path to being set free! Of course, there are those who get so immersed in academia and the minutae of "data", "facts", etc., that like fanatic religionists, "can't see the forest for the trees" from the other pole.

There is nothing to fear in learning. There is nothing to fear... in ANYTHING. Except maybe man [those still led by the Adversary]. Even David, a valiant warrior, feared man:

“I am in great distress. Let us fall into the hand of the Lord, for his mercy is great; but let me not fall into the hand of man.” 2 Samuel 24:24

Sorry... rambling...

Anyway, peace to you, both!

YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

SA

TEC SAID



Hmm... this makes me think of how some in other cultures or tribes who were homosexual or asexual... were seen as spiritual leaders/priests/etc. Surpassing the flesh. Not saying that this is true... just interesting that this could have been a/the reason for this belief. Just an interesting connection/tidbit.



Yes, absolutely!

Nothing to fear in this at all.



Yes, and I think sometimes this comes from using that 'data, facts' as confirmation bias... or it becomes a LAW not to go even one breath beyond the data and facts, even if that means following that data to a natural conclusion.

I think you summed it up best... immersed in academia, so as seeing only the trees and none of the forest.


Peace to you,
tammy

LEANN SAID

Morning Shelby,

Much love to you.

you said:


I agree completely with you. We are talking about the creation of a vessel for the home of the spirit/soul. As you know they both grow together.. so the vessel itself has an affect on the growth of the spirit. Similar to what our lord said about the seeds. He plants seeds and some get water, some fall on rocks and some by the roadside.. the 'home' of the spirit does affect the growth. He constantly explains fertile ground, water, and sun. If we see this from an example of growth we may wonder, if we are one of those seeds that ends up in a 'vessel' that is in the rocks and cant grow doesnt that just make us doomed? The answer is always no, while he uses that parable to explain certain conditions that occur that affect the spirit, with his spirit and our faith we have the ability to have the growing conditions change, no matter what influence out particular vessel is or how it geneticly influences us.. because in truth is it all about energy.. our body is a powerhouse, or maybe can call it a cacoon that is a place to grow, not what defines us.



Tec, I love your thoughts and that you seem to thinks so very deeply about things. Your beautiful.

you said:


It is so funny you mentioned this connection because part of my instructors and I conversation ended up focused on sexuality. How people form sexual prefrences and what physical, mental, and hormonal things lead a person to decide what they are attracted too. The truth of it is that it is infact all three. But anyone looking at the situation would realize it cant be just one. It can be that just you are 'born' with a certain prefence because it elimates the other very inportant influences such as pheremones that had been identified in attraction. Does having a better understanding of what makes our vessels be attracted to another person help us understand the soul more completely and that a person can love without boudaries of the physical body? And as such have a better understanding of what love is and what it means to love anyone? I think so because it leads us down to a spiritual understanding. Im not saying this in a physical way.. because in truth most of the 'physical' attaraction is THE VESSEL. I am talking about a deeper more truthful love. A complete love that exists just as the love God is teaching us about. One where physical boundaries are gone.

Much love and peace
LeAnn

LEANN SAID



Paul I am so sorry I missed this post earlier! I loved your thoughts and would love to read that part in paradise, is there a link to the quote?. Im am thinking that Raphael may just be right on in that quote.

Much peace and love
LeAnn

PSACRAMENTO SAID

Some notes about it:
http://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/paradi ... ion9.rhtml

AGUEST SAID

Q

For MOST, yes, dear P (peace to you!), but not all. I am reminded of those who began to "serve" JAH from infancy, if not earlier. Samuel, Jeremiah, John the Baptizer... those who manifested a strong spirit, in spite of the youth of their vessel.

Just something to add. Again, peace to you, my dear brother!

YOUR servant, sister, and fellow slave of Christ,

SA

LEANN SAID

Hi dear shelby,

I think that my quote. <3

and I agree there are souls/spirit that who's age is not tied to their biological bodies.

Much love.
LeAnn

AGUEST SAID

Oh, shoot, yes, dear LeAnn (and apologies to you, dear P!).

Peace to you, both!

YSSFS of Christ,

SA, who needs to look between the ads a little better - LOLOL!

JUST MOM SAID

L

I hear the saying "I feel like I'm an old soul trapped in a young body"
Maybe some of these individuals' spirit are more mature than their vessel.


Justathought
Justmom

LEANN SAID



Hello dear Just mom <3

I love your thought ... and yes I see that possibility as very logical. I tend to encourage people to trust their guts when it tells them things that even though they cannot logic it out in a literal/physical world.. but makes the most sense in the larger scope of things.

Much love and peace
LeAnn