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How do you come to that conclusion, though, given Christ's clear message that he had come to save the world, and his instruction to his disciples to go out into the whole world and spread the good news?

Also, how do you interpret Peter's vision at Joppa? How do you reconcile that with your conclusions above?

This is one part of your often very logical thinking that doesn't seem to accord with Christ's presentation to us of God as our loving Father in heaven. It would be interesting if you could explain your thinking here a bit further.

Thanks very much.

I must agree with all that Shelby has shared.



Because through Judah would come the Messiah... but as Shelby also shared, Israel (with whom the covenant was made due to a promise to Abraham). Christ did not just happen to be born there; that was always going to be.



The Samaritan woman was also Israel (part of the ten tribe kingdom, as Shelby also mentioned)... and Christ DID say that he had come for the lost sheep of ISRAEL. Not just the Jews, but of Israel, of which the Jews are only a portion (or two portions... Judah and Benjamin).

As for the greek woman... the one who was not part of Israel... her great faith in Christ, and the Most Holy One of Israel... is what Christ praised, and is what allowed her to gain as she had asked. Showing that all may come into Israel because of their FAITH.

The new covenant is open to anyone... who has faith IN Christ, the new covenant is in His blood.

"This cup is the new covenant in my blood, poured out for you."

and

"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declared the LORD.

"This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, " declared the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."


The new covenant is in Christ... and that offer went first to Israel... and then to anyone else who would come when called, and put their faith in Christ.

So from this you can get the point that the Greeks were not part of the Nations as the door for the nations opened much later with Peter.

It was open before Peter... but not understood, and that is why Christ sent Peter that vision, and then sent Peter to Cornelius.

Even physically, anyone could join themselves to Israel... by entering into that covenant that God had made with Israel. In the same way now, anyone can join to the covenant by entering through Christ.



Not sure she outsmarted Him. But she might have surprised Him with her great faith. Same with the centurion.



Faith in Christ as the Messiah, and so faith in His Father, the Most Holy One of Israel.



I am not entirely sure what you are understanding from this.

But anyone could listen (though not in the Temple, if I am correct about that) to the scriptures and such, and believe in the Most Holy One of Israel, and join TO Israel. And Christ is also to be a 'light for the gentiles'.

So that they will see Him, and will follow Him, as one follows a light.

It is not that no one else belongs to God... certainly many do, belonging to Christ, because He calls them from every nation and tribe and culture and tongue.




It is not so difficult for Him... but man has made it so difficult for Himself and others. By not looking at Christ, by not listening (or even knowing that there is someone alive to listen TO), by teaching that no one hears; by not understanding how the Spirit speaks; by listening to other louder voices (men, religion, tradition, writings, scholars, etc) over Christ.

Christ and God are spirit... and so speak as spirit... to the spirit that WE also are. Though also in dreams, visions (such as with Peter).


But we must start, always, with Christ and faith in Him. No one come to the Father except through Him.

There is also this promise:

"If anyone loves me, they will obey my commands. My father will love them, and we will come and make our home with them."




Peace to you, Anomos!

tammy

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Good morning,

I must also agree with Tammy and Shelby.

Although CHRIST did come and gave his blood by giving his life on behalf of all mankind, not ALL would accept even want this gift.
Therefore as was mentioned the time would come that this new covenant would be written on hearts not on stone. As the prior covenant was and those previously in this covenant rejected Jah and then the one he sent...HIS SON!

So the hour would come as John 4:23,24 when speaking to the Samaritan woman " when TRUE worshipers would worship the father with SPIRIT and TRUTH. That indeed the father is LOOKING for such ones."

Notice "looking" to see who would WANT to take advantage and enter this covenant by choice and belong as part of the body of CHRIST. Based on faith and obedience to him.

This is why the verse in Matthew 22:14 is that " although there are MANY invited ( into this covenant),
Few are chosen." Because although CHRIST came out of love to the WHOLE world, and the covenant would be offered to All, not All would accept it.

Just wanted to share this to what Tammy and Shelby already mentioned.

Enjoy your day
Love Justmom

Greetings, dear ANOMOS and Char... and peace to you! I can't see where I would need to add anything to what dear Tec and 'Mom (peace to both of you, my dear sisters!) stated. Except maybe that God DOES speak to us, dear ANOMOS... through His Son. Just like in the physical temple one had to go THROUGH the Holy to get into the Holy of Holies (or MOST Holy)... one must go THROUGH Christ, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) in order to come before the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Because that is the DOOR through WHOM any wishing to go in before the Person of [Pharaoh] must go.

Unfortunately, most don't LISTEN to this truth... nor listen TO that One, who IS the Truth. Rather, they continue to listen to men who mislead them... because THEY don't know... and call on/pray "in the name of"... "Jesus."

But there is no "Jesus," luv. And I don't state that to startle or offend anyone but because its the truth. There is only ONE Son, Door, and mediator between man... and the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... and that is the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit: JAHESHUA, the Chosen One... OF... JAH. The Mischa... JAH.

Go to THAT One, dear, and ask your questions. Then LISTEN to and put FAITH in HIM and what HE says to you. Especially when he says:

"Come! Take LIFE'S WATER... the (holy) spirit of God... FREE!"

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of that One, Christ,

Shellamar

I do not want anyone to listen to me. I want someone to talk to me directly. And neither Yah nor Jesus is.

Here's the thing, luv (mornin' and peace to you!)... again:

1. There is no "Jesus", so no one should be surprised, concerned, or angry if theyre not hearing (from) "him" - no one TO hear from, there;

2. JAH rarely (i.e., almost never anymore) speaks to man. Rather, He speaks THROUGH His Son, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). And THAT speaks to ALL mankind, even you, luv. The issue is not that he isn't speaking/doesn't speak to us... but whether we're LISTENING. And that depends. On whether one WANTS to hear what HE has to say. Proverbs 8:4-8. Sad to say, most don't. They want to hear what they want to hear and so listen (if they even bother to listen) for that. Rather than for the TRUTH.

Truth is not what most WANT to hear, though, cause its not always easy to receive. So they tend to tune out what they don't WANT to hear. Unfortunately, that results in a lot of tuning out of Christ. And so such ones learn NOT to hear him.

But that doesn't mean he isn't speaking.

I hope that helps.

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

One of the hardest things to grasp sometimes is the phonetics of a language, especially when we have certain entrenched ways of viewing letters.
It is very hard to see Jah or Jahveh and think that we are to pronounce it as "Yeahvay" and that is why names tend to be "transliterated" like Yahveh/Yahweh.
It gets even more complex when you deal with translations of transliterations.

In the end, and this is only MY personal view, I don't think that God and Christ care HOW we pronounce their name ( unless that have told us directly how to do it) as much as they care about who we feel ABOUT them.
To know their name and to reject them is far worse then not knowing their correct name and accepting and loving them.



This is a very important comment here and I feel for you my friend and I can relate.
While I used to hear Our Lords name, because of pain and suffering and anger, I have not heard Him for quite sometime.
I hope to one day hear Him again, that is the only thing I hope for right now...
I am very aware however that I have put up that wall, that I am the reason that I do not hear Him again.
I am not saying that is the case with you, all I am saying is that many times we don't hear because, well, we don't know ( or want) to listen.
May I ask?
What do you want to hear from Him?

I agree, dear P (peace, my brother!)... although, I think calling someone named "Paul"... "Pedro"... is a bit different than calling him "Paolo." Or calling someone named "Antonio"... "Apollo"... versus "Tony" or "Anthony."

Same premise when calling someone named "JAH"... "Jehovah"... versus, say, "Yahweh" (with the "waw" being pronounced like a "w" OR a "v" (vav)). Or...

Someone names "Jah eShua" being called "Jesus"... versus "Joshua."

In which cases (all), how one's name is pronounced MIGHT be cared about!

Nohmsayin'? LOLOL!

Peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel