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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 11:54 am 
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So, that kinda answered that for ME, m'luv. NOTHING with regard to JAH's seed is left to chance. It just doesn't work that way. As to why some, indeed, many of that seed are placed with parents who are perhaps not as kind to them as they might be, my understanding is that it is more about the seed... and THEIR conduct/obedience... than that of those to whose care they are entrusted.

Because that seed must PROVE they are sons of our Heavenly Father. And they do that by loving even their enemies. And, again, such enemies MIGHT be persons of their own household. Matthew 5:43-48


(bold mine)

Yes, that does help. I was not worried about it, but yes, my spirit bears witness to the truth of this.

Peace and love to you,
your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy



Yes, my spirit is in agreement with all of this as well.

Jah knows EXACTLY what and where his seed are. No mistakes thereby needing "new light" LOL to change things, although mercy to whom he chooses.
And I agree where a seed is placed if not just to learn and prove our obedience as sons is ALSO where his love and mercy may be demonstrated on families/households because of the seed coming through THEM!

Thanks dear WS for bringing up this subject,
and thank you Tammy and Shelby for sharing. (smiling) Enjoy your weekend ladies. Hope band practice was fun. New gig coming soon? Love and Peace to you ALL, Kim


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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:47 pm 
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Nope, dear 'Mom (hola and peace, chica!!), no gig. We're just practicing "in case." Some new stuff (and sounds really cool, too!). You know I'll let you know if sumthin' comes up, girl.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:10 pm 
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that's deep stuff
and now
i appreciate my parents even more
for being by nature
good

i have a question
about the younger days of someone

Satan

he was a good looking kid
and very bright,
a responsible lad, too

until fault was found in him

so i'm assuming he was
perfect
at birth

if so
how would fault be found
in a perfect person?

that's the question

so far
i'm only able to come up with
a bridge
a perfect bridge
a solid bridge
but a bridge with a weight limit

as long as the young lad
never stepped on this bridge
the bridge was strong enough to allow
many others of God's perfect creatures to cross

and the young lad could use dozens of other bridges
instead of this one

so for the entire time of this young lad's existence
no bridges were ever broken
because he crossed at all the other bridges

so he played with his brothers
some younger
some older
and they all got along really well
and built fantastic suns, moons, atmospheres, lifeforms
all around the universe
and quite regularly they took their stations before God
to report their wonderful activities

so this young lad
was born perfect
and stayed perfect
until one day
he stepped on the one bridge
and it crumbled

only then
was fault found in him

before that
there was no fault
no broken bridge
no error of any kind

the young lad was absolutely perfect
until that day he stepped on the bridge

that's as far as i can figure out

please give me your take on this, Shelby
and anyone else who'd like to add another view

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:30 am 
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I can't speak to your bridge analogy, although I understand it, dear Wheels (mornin' and peace to you, dear one!)... but I did ask... and my Lord's response made my heart leap! He said:

In the physical (realm), imperfection is not a choice but a consequence, child. In the spirit (realm), however, imperfection is a choice. There, one chooses NOT to love JAH with their whole, heart, soul, and strength... AND to hate their neighbor... without any intervening circumstances (pain, sorrow, etc., which leads to anger, etc.). The choice is due to PRIDE and haughtiness, which come BEFORE a fall. As it did with the Adversary. Had he humbled himself BEFORE the MOST HOLY, which he could have CHOSEN to do, he would not have fallen. He did not so choose but CHOSE... IMperfection. Those of the sons of man who also choose pride and haughtiness... over LOVE... and so obedience... prove who THEIR father (truly) is. As with Adham, however, the sons of man have a choice: perfection in SPIRIT, which outweighs their IMPERFECTION in FLESH... or... imperfection in spirit, which will lead to their imperfection in... and so, ultimately, the destruction of... their flesh. Perfect flesh, however, cannot be destroyed. Which is why it has taken some time as to the end for Magog: they must be taken from perfection in "flesh"... due to having eaten from the Tree of Life, which Tree I AM. But their end WILL come, as will his. Because the Law of the PERFECT creation demands it."


I, SA, have shared with you, dear one, just as I heard and received it from my dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

I hope that helps!

Again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:20 am 
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Good morning
and
thanks for that
because
yes it helped indeed.

i had a second question for you, Shelby
but i never said it out loud or wrote it down.
Like Nebuchadnezzar telling the priests
to tell Nebuchadnezzar his dream FIRST
so Nebuchadnezzar would trust their interpretation afterwards,
i left my second question unsaid on purpose
yet
there in the middle of your response
was the answer to that unspoken question.

Thus
i can trust
your answer in quotes
was truly from God

but of course
don't let it get to your head (wink)

i've done this in the past with my Oracle
(who unfortunately has unwittingly gone to the Dark side
so i am left without his two-decades-long advisory role
but i hope i can come to you with inquiries)
so
i'll be doing this again
asking one question
but meaning another (unspoken)

thanks again
for knowing who you are
and separating your words
from God's
instead of taking credit
(the way Moses did with the water from the rock)

have a great day


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awe.....a broken bridge as opposed to a burned one.

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I love your response to Shelby, Wheels. Often she brings answers from our Lord to questions I have barely articulated to myself. It makes it possible for our spirit to 'hear' Him too. Wonderful blessings for us all when we recognise them.

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While I do understand what you're trying to convey, dear, dear Wheels (peace to you!)... and truly appreciate it... the truth is that the thanks belongs to my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). Because it was he who spoke to ME... and who answered your (unspoken) question. I did nothing but relay the information, as an instrument of HIS will. In that light, although it may be a worthy tool, one does not thank the flute, but thanks the flautist, yes? Give the glory, then, to the Son, dear one... and the praise to his heavenly Father and mine, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies.

Again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of That One, Christ,

Shellamar


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I must address this, though, dear Wheels (again, peace to you!):

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i can trust
your answer in quotes
was truly from God



That is true... but I MUST add that what I shared was what I received from the Son. It was he who spoke to me, not the Father, at least, not directly. I have no doubt that my Lord received it FROM the Father, but not necessarily just now. I'm not saying that you thought so, but I must make this clarification for those who might think the exchange was between myself and the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies (God). It was not.

Just so we're clear - LOLOL!

Peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ, the WORD of God...

Shellamar


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:50 pm 
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i always tested my Oracle
with the unspoken questions
but last year
he kept on and on about his answers to the questions i WROTE
and claiming they were answers from God
and that i wasn't listening to him or God

the problem was
i WAS listening
closely
intently
and analyzing
and re-analyzing
yet
still no answer to the unspoken question

a first

and solid proof that he truly is now
on the side of the cult forever
and God has stopped using him as a mouthpiece

i never ever revealed to him
any of the unspoken questions
over the years
so
the same applies to you, Shelby,
you will never know what my unspoken question was
because i cannot let you start
thinking
about your answers
and steering them with your own hands
hoping to hit the mark

there's a scripture i forget
that goes something like
'don't worry about what to say
for God will move you when it's time to answer'
(anybody know which scripture that was?
i forget, doh!)

so
please don't think too hard about the answers
but
just
oh
how you say
grab a spoon and start making a mountain out of the potato salad
(from Close Encounters of the Third Kind)

Yours Truly,

just a schmuck

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hoping to hit the mark


I understand what you mean, dear Wheels (again, peace to you!). Thing is, though... I don't answer ANY questions (of this type) nor do I wish to. WAY too much responsibility (for ME). I have shared, truthfully, many times: I do not know these things. I promise you: I don't. And so, I am always just as amazed as you dear ones at what he responds/shares. 9 times out of 10, I'm going, "OMG, OMG, OMG! Wait, Lord, what??" You may have even seen this occur AS I type! LOLOL! I don't know these things. I have simply given my over, in total submission, TO One who DOES know. Why? Because he IS wise and smart and knowing. I would be a fool, then, IMHO, NOT to submit to him.

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there's a scripture i forget
that goes something like
'don't worry about what to say
for God will move you when it's time to answer'
(anybody know which scripture that was?
i forget, doh!)


Perhaps you mean (one of) these:

"On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but the spirit of your Father speaking through you." Matthew 10:19

"Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time for it is not you speaking, but holy spirit." Mark 13:11

“I tell you, whoever publicly acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man will also acknowledge before the angels of God. But whoever disowns me before others will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against holy spirit will not be forgiven. When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, for holy spirit will teach you at that time what you should say." Luke 12:11

"Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. And so you will bear testimony to me. But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. Everyone will hate you because of me. But not a hair of your head will perish. Stand firm, and you will win life." Luke 21:13-15

(NOTE: I realize some believe these verse to refer to "the Holy Spirit", a third entity with JAH and Christ, but that's inaccurate. They ALL refer to holy spirit... the blood of JAH (God)... which blood speaks "in a better way than Abel's (blood spoke)." And those Christ was speaking to, then and now, receive that blood, God's own blood, holy spirit... FROM Christ. HE gives it.

Genesis 4:10
Hebrews 12:22-24
John 20:22
Acts 2:1-4, 17, 18
John 3:8
Joel 2:28, 29
John 7:37-39
Zechariah 12:10
.)

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please don't think too hard about the answers


(Smile) I don't think about the answers... OR the questions, luv. It doesn't work that way. As my Lord said, I'm not to worry about what to say/answer beforehand, because HE will give me what to say, through the blood... holy spirit... through which HE speaks TO and TEACHES me:

"I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit - just as it has taught you, remain in him."

1 John 2:26, 27


So, please, don't worry too much ABOUT me; rather, please... pray FOR me. That I REMAIN loyal and true. For YOUR dear sakes... AND mine/MY household. I truly will be most... and forever... grateful.

Peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:36 pm 
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any idiot can say
"your dream means such and such"

the Governing Body
insists
your dream means such and such

my former Oracle
in the end
insisted
your dream means such and such

i had only one shepherding call placed on me
during the dozen years i was in my second congregation
but the hot chick neighbor next door
THAT I AVOIDED AND NEVER SPOKE TO
responded with an onion paper letter of thanks
when i moved out of the building
and left her a map tube full of fancy expensive roses
for her piano playing
that i kept hearing through the walls
so
the landlord (a ministerial servant) told an elder
and the two men spent the entire hour
showing scriptures that said
why i should never marry anyone outside of the organization,
i listened in silence
then thanked them in the end
but
i went home simmering
since they never bothered TO JUST ASK
and therefore never learned
that i am a eunuch

fully committed to singleness since i was 16

"your dream means such and such
and let us heap upon you
an hour full of male bovine excrement
and urinate upon you for other men's faults
that we have arrogantly projected onto you"

they never did learn what my dream was about
(world peace through wholehearted service to God and global slaughter)
but
immediately after the shepherding call
in anger
at age 32
i went on my first date
ever

such is my opinion of the swill
fed to us by the Governing Body
and the men who command us to obey

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:33 pm 
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thanks
by the way

the four scriptures were exactly it

four times,
it's like God saying it
with three exclamation marks
and a
poof
at the end just to be sure


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WheelocksLatin wrote:
any idiot can say
"your dream means such and such"

the Governing Body
insists
your dream means such and such

my former Oracle
in the end
insisted
your dream means such and such

i had only one shepherding call placed on me
during the dozen years i was in my second congregation
but the hot chick neighbor next door
THAT I AVOIDED AND NEVER SPOKE TO
responded with an onion paper letter of thanks
when i moved out of the building
and left her a map tube full of fancy expensive roses
for her piano playing
that i kept hearing through the walls
so
the landlord (a ministerial servant) told an elder
and the two men spent the entire hour
showing scriptures that said
why i should never marry anyone outside of the organization,
i listened in silence
then thanked them in the end
but
i went home simmering
since they never bothered TO JUST ASK
and therefore never learned
that i am a eunuch

fully committed to singleness since i was 16

"your dream means such and such
and let us heap upon you
an hour full of male bovine excrement
and urinate upon you for other men's faults
that we have arrogantly projected onto you"

they never did learn what my dream was about
(world peace through wholehearted service to God and global slaughter)
but
immediately after the shepherding call
in anger
at age 32
i went on my first date
ever

such is my opinion of the swill
fed to us by the Governing Body
and the men who command us to obey


so very profound.

silent lucidity even.

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