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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:40 pm 
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LOL @ Outlaw.


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Okkkkkkayyyyyyyyyyyy... dear LQ (peace to you, luv!)????!!!! How can you claim to be OF the "144,000"... yet not even know the nameS supposedly written ON you????

A bunch of lies and trickerization.* What's even worse than the "regular" members not knowing... is those folks actually THINKING THEY'RE ANOINTED! If we were living in the first century, though, every one of them would be called upon the show MANIFESTATION of that anointing! Today? No. Why? Because "it's between me/them and 'Jehovah'."

Anyone can "sound" anointed... and especially in THAT organization. You don't have to speak TRUTHFULLY... just "WELL." From the podium. Or at the door. Or for more than, say, 20 years. Speak what THEY tell you to... using THEIR outlines/magazines/"reasoning"... and who's to say you're NOT anointed?

In the meantime, some who might BECOME chosen ones... are being misled.

[Dear Lord JAHESHUA... may you kindly, lovingly... and MERCIFULLY... grant it to them to WAKE UP... and GET OUT of her?! Please... dear, dear Lord!! Wake up and get out... to YOUR glory and the glory of your Father and ours, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Because it is only when they DO wake up and get out... QUIT touching that unclean thing... that they CAN bear His name... and yours... ON them! May it be your will and our dear Father's! Please!!]

Sorry, dear ones... a bit overcome...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:22 pm 
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Hey Tammy!!..

The WBT$ Bible reminds me of a story..

When I was in grade 1..
My mom insisted I show the teacher God`s WBT$ name,in the WBT$ NWT Bible..
I was just a little kid..I didn`t want to do it..
She wouldn`t stop..
After months of being harassed I did it,to shut the woman up..

That turned into a part at the assembly,to give my experience..
Also set up by my mom..
The audience was taken in by a little kid who preached to his teacher..
"Oh isn`t that wonderful!!"..
*Applause*

The audience never did hear the real truth of what happened..
The real story would have been this:

My mom harassed me for months until I preached to the teacher..
I did it to shut her up..
Then I got dragged onto an assembly stage..
Now you fools are clapping about a story,you`ll never hear the truth about..
LOL!!..

In all my years..
I`ve never known any of the stories told at assemblies,to be 100% truthful..
They were reworked and rewritten to suit the WBT$ Agenda..

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Okkkkkkayyyyyyyyyyyy... dear LQ (peace to you, luv!)????!!!! How can you claim to be OF the "144,000"... yet not even know the nameS supposedly written ON you????

Exactly my point!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:06 pm 
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Oh, wait, I forgot:

"We KNOW it; we just don't USE it because it ain't as POPULAR as the one we DO use!"


Oy... VEY!

Noooooo... JAH... VeH!!

LOLOLOL!

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I think that we should look at this another way. (not that you are not looking at what good can come from this in their new bible, but just to state it...) Yes, some people, especially newer ones coming in, will be fooled by this and other changes, covering their tracks. But on the other hand... the wts admits right there in black and white that Jehovah is not the name of God and they KNOW this, and they know that His name is Jahveh (spelled with the y, but still) or the other pronunciation that they used. Yet they use the wrong name KNOWINGLY, saying that it does not matter if the name is correct; only that a name is used. That makes NO sense at all, and some will SEE that, and perhaps a seed will be planted.

So with all of the emphasis that they have put on 'restoring' His name, with all the condemnation and judgment that they give others for calling on a non-existent god who does not hear them because they do not use His proper name (so I was taught during my study)... this hypocrisy (shown even easier on this particular matter by this bible and its reference to the name they use as being knowingly wrong)... may also help some who are seeking SEE, and some who are wondering, to QUESTION. To help them perhaps hear and be led out.

Now that we know it is in there (and others know as well), it is a tool in the arsenal against their teaching, and against their claim for being truth... and for being God's organization.

Why in the world would God not reveal His name to those who are 'supposedly' representing Him; those who claim to be the mouthpiece of God. They can receive new light... but they cannot learn His Name?


Just some thing to keep in mind. To keep hope, and to be able to rejoice and have peace and faith in Jah and His Son, our Lord, Jaheshua.

Peace and love to you all,
Your servant and sister, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy


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I totally hear you, dear tec (peace to you)!! YES!! We can actually show them in their OWN Bible and, along with pointing out the utter RIDICULOUSNESS of some, including their leaders, stating they are "of the 144,000" yet not using... or perhaps even KNOWING God's true name... ASK them:

"REGARDLESS of what others accept, are familiar with, or popular... shouldn't YOU at least be using the TRUE name? What is the POINT of calling your organization "the truth"... or saying you're "in the truth"... if you use a name FOR GOD... that is NOT true"??????

So, yes, they may have actually shot themselves in the foot REAL good, this time! LOLOL! And this may be only ONE error that exposes them!

Which makese wonder... How long do y'all think it'll be before they'll need to publish yet ANOTHER version? LOLOLO! They average about what, every 25 years or so? I don't they'll [be able to] wait that long this time!

Maybe not a bad thing, per se, but still makes me sick to my stomach.

Peace, luv, and thanks for that POV!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:32 am 
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OUTLAW wrote:
Now that the WBT$ has gotten rid of the Bible..
Should they Change their Initials?!..
WBT$ (WatchTower,Bible and Tract Society) to... WTS (Watchtower and Tract Society)..

NO!..They get to keep the "B"!!..
They still have (Jehovah) "Baloney"..
It`s now the "Watchtower,(Jehovah) Baloney and Tract Society"..


We get to keep the "B"?!..
....Thanks OUTLAW!..

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That turned into a part at the assembly,to give my experience..
Also set up by my mom..
The audience was taken in by a little kid who preached to his teacher..
"Oh isn`t that wonderful!!"..
*Applause*



Wow. Thanks for sharing this. You very well were just like the three year old on stage in that utube video.

Let me say to you right now SIR /:) ...I AM SORRY YOU WERE SUBJECTED TO SUCH TORTURE BY YOUR MOTHER; IN OBEYING WT BASTURD SOCIETYS INSANITY.

I just read a thread that has a poem in it about this very dynamic; obedience that inflicts torture on children in all four elements of our Being:

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Obey obey you have no choice
we are the ones who are God's voice

do as we say and not as we do
or we shall soon dis-fellowship you

Faithful and Discreet we take the lead
the Watchtower is all you need to read

We created JW(dot) ORG
just to keep you in the borg

Apostates sites don't look or see
in case you find TTATT

Donate to us your hard earned loot
so we can wear a Gucchi suit

to fly the world delivering talks
about tight pants and lascivious walks

We change things around from time to time
even though there's no reason or rhyme

Make sense of prophecy, no not us
just read and obey and have full trust

that what we say is straight from God
we know its true and you should nod

your head in agreement and give us, the slave
your undying devotion and honor and praise.

If you obey us you will live, not die
and you can add that as another lie

Yes, the Governing Body, we really are
that fact we will broadcast near and far

Remember, obey obey, you have no choice
we are the ones who are God's voice.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:56 am 
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Outlaw, I hear you on how stories such as yours morph into something that they never were to begin with. Some truth (you DID 'preach' to your teacher... even though you preached wrong, as you had been wrongly taught... as they now admit that they knowingly preach something that is not true!), some deception.


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Yes, I totally agree!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:31 am 
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Hey sKally..

I like the poem..
Yes..
I was one of those little kids up on stage,in the ministry school..
I had no idea what I was talking about,I was just supposed to do it..
Nothing in that Hell Hole is Voluntary for Little Kids..
Try saying you don`t want to do it,without threat of punishment..
Thats never going to happen..

Hey Tammy..

I didn`t preach to the teacher so much as,Parrot to the teacher..
It certainly wasn`t voluntary..

The wrong name for God has never mattered to the JW`s..
Franz admitted to it many decades ago..
JW`s didn`t care then,JW`s don`t care now..
The people who do care..
Are all on the outside of the WBT$ JW Cult..

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That WAS a great poem, dear Skally (peace, luv!). And while I, too, am sorry that you were subjected to such as a child, dear Sher'f (peace to you, as well!)... I would be lying if I said I WASN'T glad that it served to put SOME gall in your mouth... and cause YOU to wake up... and get OUT!

Sometimes, there is no gain... without some pain. I wish it wasn't so, or that the pain is always minimal... but "life" isn't really like that. We CAN envy those whose lives SEEM to be without pain or suffering... but I think I've come to know that ALL lives suffer some (kind of) pain at some point. Different kinds, perhaps... and, unfortunately, we always tend to think that we'd take someone else's pain over our own. But I'm not so sure - I think we only THINK our pain is "worse."

Ask a starving mother and child which pain they'd prefer - hunger pangs... or the oppression of the WTBTS... and I am willing to bet it would be the WTBTS.

My point? What doesn't kill you... makes you STRONGER... IF YOU LET IT.

If you can look at these things as, say, "scar tissue"... so that the point of the "injury" NOW has a scar... or the bone has healed... such that it is now STRONGER than BEFORE the injury, you might find a way to feel some "gratitude" FOR your "suffering." Because you KNOW... that NOW... their ability to cause you MORE pain... or REINJURE you... is virtually NIL.

Yet... you are still alive! Many are not.

I hope this helps. I don't mean to be cynical... or deny anyone their "right" to be angry, etc., not at ALL. I am just remembering a dear friend who didn't get this... didn't use his injuries to "shield" himself from FURTHER pain/injury... but, rather, let those wounds "fester" and their "infection" spread. Until their "poison" was just SO great.

DON'T DO IT.

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I would be lying if I said I WASN'T glad that it served to put SOME gall in your mouth... and cause YOU to wake up... and get OUT!.....Shelby


It certainly did that..LOL!!..

Theres a big difference for Born In,as opposed to people who Joined..Who leave the WBT$
People who join have a life they can go back to..
People born in have nothing to go back to..Our lives as we knew them are gone forever..
Our friends and family are gone..Our entire support system is destroyed..
We have to learn how to live in the outside world..Something most people learn as they grow up..
Some of us make it,some of us don`t..
I`ve never seen a Born In totally healed from the Damage Done by the WBT$..

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Theres a big difference for Born In,as opposed to people who Joined


If I may re-structure this to say:

"...as opposed to those ADULTS that joined, and then spent the span of the childs life, torturing them with sheer WTBTS insanity".

And...it continues as we discuss it! !

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If I may re-structure this to say:
"...as opposed to those ADULTS that joined, and then spent the span of the childs life, torturing them with sheer WTBTS insanity".....sKally


Your absolutely right!..
This was my first WBT$ Childrens Book..

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These are some of the pictures from that book..

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........................Enjoy Your Nightmares JW Children!..
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...........WatchTower World is an Extremely Terrifying Place..
..................... For a Child to Grow Up in..


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