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I am reading a thread on the other site, re: great tribulation. I'd like feedback from the believers here as to this portion contained therein; how would some of you here , reply to:



Very interesting indeed.

Thank you.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I actually wouldn't make a distinction between Dionysus, Osiris, or "Jesus," dear Skals (peace to you!). But if someone in 1BCE wanted to know why JAHESHUA... versus Dionysus... Osiris... Hercules... Perseus... or any other "mythological" god... I would respond to them as that One did: if you can't believe on the basis of his words, then believe... on the basis of his works. The blind were given sight, the lame walked, the sick healed... the dead resurrected. And folks SAW this... and recorded it.

Unfortunately, they didn't have iPhones back then so the only means for "recording" such things was for folks to write it down. And, according to Luke, MANY did that. Not just he and three other guys:

"Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word..." Luke 1:1, 2

Then I would say, "Now, dear 1BCE folks, if you can show me where Dionysis and Osiris did the same things... either by your own testimony or that it's written somewhere... non-fictionally speaking, of course... we can continue this discussion. Until then, all I can say to those of you who saw... but STILL don't believe... well, maybe that old addage that "SEEING is believing" is just a lie."

Of course, you could be curious about what one might say to someone TODAY. That's fair. I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but what I would say to someone TODAY is:

"Well, thus far, it's only been JAHESHUA who has spoken and shown himself to ME. And so, unless and until when Dionysus and Osiris... or Hercules, etc.... step and do the same, MY faith is in him. Because for ME... HEARING is believing. And he speaks. Unlike Dionysus, Osiris, and Hercules. Those, although they HAVE mouths... well, at least the depictions of them do... they don't speak.

So... there you go. That's what I would say.

I hope that helps!

Peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

That "SeekChristOnly" poster over on the "other" forum really got Cofty all riled up LOL

He seems to be a troll and not a Christian. He is trying to rile people up, that's obvious.

Yes, so I've heard, dear Zoe ( mornin and peace to you, dear lady! ).

And apparently someone took the bait and responded with the questions dear Skalls ( peace, luv!) posted. Since dear Skalls seemed to want to know what someone, a believer maybe, would respond, I obliged. I hope my point were clear - I was pretty tired at the time - LOLOL!

Peace!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

If your question is in regards to the "apparent similarities" between what was written about Christ and some others:
http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html

Funny thing about those similarities (mornin' and peace to you, all!)...

I asked about that because, as you can imagine, they come up all the time. There are some that seem very uncanny and it COULD appear that my Lord is the imitator. BUT... he reminded me of something, something we've all perhaps read him saying:

"Before Abraham, I am..."

Dear ones, HE is not the imitator; these false deities are! They are, most if not all, created in HIS image. They are what humans, who heard of HIM... created to bring him "to life" for themselves and/or those they wished to manifest [a god like him] TO. Unfortunately, their renditions were/are false... as are the gods they depict.

Our dear Lord was the FIRSTBORN. Of ALL "creation." He came forth from the Father before anything else existed... and ALL things came into existence THROUGH, by MEANS of, and FOR him (as the Son who would inherit such things).

He was known long, long before Abraham. Indeed, ABEL knew of him... and LISTENED to him (but like his father, Adham, Cain did NOT).

Many think that he just came into existence when he came in the flesh. Or when Moses prophesied about him. But remember, he was mentioned even to the Adversary (who absolutely knew him!), when that one was told that enmity would be put between him and the seed of the Woman. That Seed was and is our dear Lord.

But even before Adham was mentioned, our dear Lord was mentioned:

"In the beginning [ark; womb of the Woman; spirit realm] God created the heavens [that which EXISTS in the spirit realm] and the earth [what which exists in the PHYSICAL realm]. Now the earth [physical realm] was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God [the Person that He is] was hovering over the waters ["fountains" of dynamic energy].

"And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good and he separated the light from the darkness. ..." Genesis 1:1-4

So what? So...

One...

"In the beginning [ark/womb of the Woman/spirit realm] was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God(ward) [he was in and a part of JAH]. He was with God in the beginning [in the ark/womb of the Woman/spirit realm]. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

"There was a man sent from God whose name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

"The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him." John 1:1-11

Two...

“Why do you call me good?” [Jesus] answered. “No one is good—except God alone." Mark 10:18

Three...

"When [Jesus] spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12

Four...

"I am... the life John 14:6

Five...

"[Jesus] answered [the Samaritan woman], “If you knew the gift of God[/u] and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

"... whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” John 4:10, 13, 14

Six...

"... the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water'...” Revelation 7:17

Seven...

“Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, 'out of HIS innermost parts streams of LIVING water will flow'.” By this he meant [holy] spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time spirit [life] had not been given, since [Jesus] had not yet been glorified." John 7:37-39

This One... this Light, who IS GOOD (but humbly deflected that compliment toward the Father, Whom he glorified INSTEAD of himself)... is the One that ALL of these... Dionysus, Mithra, Hercules, Perseus, Osiris... and a gajillion others... have been CREATED... by MAN... to stand in the place of.

Like "Israel" (those who are "Without JAH as their God")... in their impatience in waiting for him TO come... TO arrive... TO return... they created a plethora of "golden calves," etc., and bowed down to THEM and called THEM "god."

But he existed... long, long... long... before man even gave a thought to any of these imposters. They are only the brain-children of folks who HEARD of our dear Lord, the TRUE Light... but never KNEW him. And rather than look FOR him... they created their own gods... in his "image."

I hope this helps, truly!

Peace to you, ALL!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar