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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:32 pm 
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the meaning is changed quite significantly... from taking in knowledge of you (which is learning ABOUT God and Christ)... to KNOWING you (knowing God and Christ... having a relationship WITH)


That really does change the meaning. So much for thinking I knew what I was talking about.

WTS strikes again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:33 pm 
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The Israelites had "the law" and what did it ultimately do for them?
We know instead of using it to look at "themselves" they used it and started "judgeing their fellowman" enforced it the way they felt it should be interpreted and it led to them putting the son of God to death!!!!!!

Christ came to free/release us from bondage to sin and death from the law and told/showed them how. They NEVER got it/ nor understood it except for a few (remnant)

Jah told them that NOW the law would not be on stone tablets (bibles/scrolls/cds/books etc....?) It would be written on their HEARTS!!!!
and it would DWELL inside them!!!!


That Hebrews 1:1-4 says "God who long ago spoke to us by means of the prophets....has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a SON! whom he has appointed heir of ALL things.

SO......How does god speak to us NOW????? By His SON
Christ who is the WORD of God John 1:1
John 1:14 "The WORD became flesh and resided among us"
Hebrews 4:12 "Gods WORD is ALIVE (not dead/not written)
He is "The Holy spirit" that was sent to his chosen ones/that dwells is us by our partaking of his flesh and drinking his blood we have LIFE within ourselves. John 5: 31-59

John 5:39-41 You can search the scriptures but life is not in them. It is in Christ the living word of god.

The annointing that is FREE is what teaches us and recalls to mind ALL things now. 1John 2:24-29 All we have to do is ASK!!!

Most of us have spent our whole life being misled by either man or false uninspred writings and allowed THEM to interpret the Bible for us. And it got us where?

YES!!! To where we are today because we asked hopefully to be found by Him and he saw how skinned about/abused/ tired we were!!!

Now the invititation is this

"Come to me all those who are tired and loaded down. Take my yoke. It is light and ooh so kind. Let me lead you in TRUTH (with is Christ)
and allow my spirit which is holy to teach and guide you. He promises NEVER to lie or to mislead us! He understands our past and is so patient with us. He will heal us/love us and keep us under his care.

Let us not again be misled by "false scribes and stylus's/interpreters who are untaught and unsteady. Twisting the scriptures to their own destruction. 2Peter 3:14-18

May you find peace and joy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:33 pm 
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thanks justmom

thanks gladiator - I think this is an important aspect of spirituality

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On the other hand many people have had verifiable experiences that defy all the parameters of how our world and our mind is supposed to work. Not wishing to be considered fanciful they are careful what they share.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:38 pm 
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I agree, dear S+G (peace both you and dear Glad!), it's VERY important. I have learned that disregarding this "fear" [of being "considered fanciful"] (and so, in essence, ignoring/disregarding shame, as Christ said and did - Mark 8:34-38; Luke 9:23-26; Hebrews 12:2), is one of the reasons I am permitted to hear much of what I do (along with faith).

Christ is recorded to have said, among other things to give us COURAGE (and there are just too many verses to note regarding us having courage!):

A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his lord. It is enough for the disciple to become as his teacher, and the slave as his lord. If people have called the householder Be·el´ze·bub, how much more [will they call] those of his household so? Therefore do not fear them; for there is nothing covered over that will not become uncovered, and secret that will not become known. What I tell YOU in the darkness, say in the light; and what YOU hear whispered, preach from the housetops. And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Ge·hen´na. Do not two sparrows sell for a coin of small value? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground without YOUR Father’s [knowledge]. But the very hairs of YOUR head are all numbered. Therefore have no fear: YOU are worth more than many sparrows.[/i] Everyone, then, that confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my Father[/b] who is in the heavens; but whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 10:24-33

The latter part of this verse, having Christ deny ME before the Most Holy One of Israel... is one of my few and only fears (besides disappointing either of them and/or my children/husband... or leaving my children/husband behind, that latter of which is not really a fear... but more of an "I really don't want to because I know what that feels like").

To help me overcome the shame part, I listen to my Lord's reminders to ME, that:

Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU. YOU are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything but to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men. “YOU are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when situated upon a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under the measuring basket, but upon the lampstand, and it shines upon all those in the house[/i]. Likewise [i]let YOUR light shine before men, that they may see YOUR fine works and give glory to YOUR Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 5:11-16

Those who belong to Christ are supposed to do so out of love; for him and for the Father. And for our fellowman. Love, TRUE love... is what often CAUSES one to be foolish. Think of the things we do/are willing to do for love... for those we love. Look like silly idiots, even. Well, some of us - some, because of pride, let their "love" only go so far... sometimes to the detriment of their fleshly relationships.

Sometimes it is the same with God and Christ: pride will only let a person go so far. Just as some develop a "hard" skin/shell/heart because of failures/fears/concerns/hurt/anger in fleshly relationships, they do so as well with their SPIRITUAL relationship [with God]. They cannot TRUST... because they cannot allow themselves to LOVE... to the FULL... again. Often because they can't forgive.

I have learned not to worry about what people think of me, of what I "look" like to them. And it's for a very important reason (in addition to my love for God and Christ): they can't save me. True, I may be wrong about all of this and just die and stay dead once I do. So, okay. My life isn't THAT bad in the meantime. On the other hand, I may be right... and then what? Who will save me THEN? Not one of earthling man can do so. In the meantime, I get to experience the "happiness" associated with GIVING... than receiving... except to the extent I receive from Christ. There is no greater happiness for ME.

Hence, I BELIEVE what I hear from my Lord and so, continue to offer, as HE does, to all those wishing and thirsting:

"Come... you who are toiling and loaded down! Come! Find refreshment for YOUR spirit! Come... and take 'life's water'... the holy spirit of God... which 'water' is poured out from the innermost part of the cistern that is His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... FREE! KISS... the SON!"

YOUR servant, servant to the Household of God, Israel, to those who go with Israel... and a slave of Christ,

SA, who apologizes that so much always comes OUT of me on these matters, but attributes it to the "abundance" of and in my heart...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:38 pm 
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SA, who apologizes that so much always comes OUT of me on these matters, but attributes it to the "abundance" of and in my heart...



Good Morning ((Shelby))..
You used to be really wordy..
Trust me..
You`ve gotten better over the years..LOL!!

............................ ...OUTLAW


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You used to be really wordy.


OY! dear OUTLAW (peace to you!) - I hope that doesn't mean my heart's getting smaller! LOLOLOL! Or emptier!

No, I think it's just due to hanging around you usual suspects (you, dear tec, and others who say things more concisely - taken me a awhile, I know - LOLOL!). Don't assume that this is the norm, though, these "short" responses from me - I still have a couple/few tomes in me, my bro! LOLOLOL!

Peace!

SA, on her own...


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OUTLAW SAID

LOL!!@Shelby!!

No,your heart is as big as it has always been..

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GLADIATOR SAID

Perhaps spirituality simply seeks.

Religion declares that it has found and must proclaim.


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Religion for me is evil... It's all about money/power/fear/control and is controlled by men.

Spirituality is something that is within because we are ''spirits''... I get very excited if I hear the word spirituality and start rabbiting on about it, with the people on the receiving end wondering why was I allowed out of my padded room!

Spirituality is not something you can believe in like Religion, it's part of us, it is US, like our blood!

To me spirituality and Faith are different as not everyone has faith and is something that grows.

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