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Indeed, but isn't that a bit of a circular argument?
I don't think so, but I understand why you/others might, dear one (again, peace to you!). Let's see, though:
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If I get an understanding from God that is different than your, then you say it is MY understanding OF God that is incorrect, what is to keep me from saying that it is YOURS that is incorrect?
I think the issue lies with your question, dear one, which is inaccurate. The ACCURATE question would be:
If I [think I] get an understanding from God that [I think] is different than yours, then you say [you think] it is MY understanding OF God that is incorrect, what is to keep me from saying that it is YOURS that is incorrect?Right? Because CAN you get a different understanding FROM GOD than my understanding FROM GOD? Or I you? If that is so, is not God divided? And is not holy spirit speaking truth to one of us but not truth to the other? But how can that be? If one understanding is
different than the other, then, is it not the truth that ONE is correct and one is NOT?
The problem comes in as to how one can know WHICH one is true (and, thus, from God)... and which is NOT. But it's really not hard to know: one only need ASK. If, however, one does not yet have faith sufficient to ask and/or hear an answer, then one can test the (inspired) expression, yes? And how does one do that? Easily:
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Against Christ, first and foremost (i.e., WOULD Christ have said/done/shown... the thing/matter in question...?). Because HE is the image and exact representation of God, right? And if one cannot (yet) "see" Christ in the viewpoint (perhaps because one still lacks faith);
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Against love (i.e., WHERE is the LOVE in the thing said/done/shown...?). For God IS love, right? And if one cannot see love in the viewpoint (perhaps because one has not yet come to know what love TRULY is, because one has not yet seen Christ... and thus, God... or... love...);
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Against what is written which may or may not be in the Bible... so long as what is written is tested against... and succeeds when held up to... the first two. If one cannot see Christ... or love... in the thing written, how can it have originated with God? I realize some believe that everything written in the Bible is "from God," but that is NOT true. It was for that very reason that Jeremiah prophesied about the "false stylus" of and Christ condemned the words of the secretaries/copyists/scribes ("WOE, to you... scribes... hypocrites!"). There is MUCH in the Bible that didn't originate with God, to begin with, and much that did but was subsequently tampered with by the pen of the copyists.
Easy-peasy. The problem comes in when we try to determine what is FROM GOD by means
other than Christ and love. All kinds of people have and will say they received what they did/do directly from God. If so, they're LYING... because beyond the Prophets and Christ himself, NO ONE gets anything directly from God (and even the Prophets recognized receiving what they did from/through the Word, which Word IS Christ, now). Like the Prophets, those who DO receive FROM GOD get it, IF they truly DId get it, from CHRIST, the WORD of God. Because HE is God's ONLY spokesman. Always has been, always will be.
Now, I realize that not all recognize/receive/accept that. What can I say? That's okay. They must believe as they believe. I would wonder, though, how they can hear/see God without, say, Mohammed, Buddha, Confucious, etc., who are all
dead. Christ, however, is NOT dead: he is ALIVE, risen FROM the dead... and speaking from the spirit realm, his voice being to the sons of man. God is a spirit, and so it takes spirit to "speak" with Him. That is why the Prophets were "inspired" - IN SPIRIT - when He spoke with them.
Of course, no one has to take my word for ANY of this, dear P. Not even you (I know you know this). But just like we cannot assume that all who claim to hear "God" are telling the truth, we shouldn't assume that all are lying, either. If we truly WANT to know we can go and ask for ourselves or, if we lack faith to do that (yet)... test what we are told to have
originated with God (but not necessarily came directly FROM Him but rather, THROUGH His Son).
For me, if the claim overlooks/denies the Son, and/or does not purport to have come from or through that One, but directly from the MOST HOLY One of Israel (God)... I would have to absolutely reject it. Because (1) it does not glorify the Son, and so (2) does not glorify JAH, and so (3) MUST be false. One could not go directly to Pharaoh for grain but had to go through Joseph. Even today, one cannot go directly to a monarch or other world leader but must go to and through such ones' agent(s).
If the claim shows the bearer as kissing the SON, however... by means of acknowledging and glorifying HIM... then I would receive it, yes. Unless I heard from my Lord that it was NOT from him but someone perhaps trying to "transform themselves into an angel of light." In which case, again, I would reject it.
It really isn't hard to tell, dear one. At least, not once one has been trained BY the One speaking. As he is recorded to have said:
"MY sheep KNOW... MY voice." His sheep do not listen to voice of strangers because they have LEARNED his voice. Do they start OUT knowing it? No. But like young lambs... babes... they are TAUGHT:
"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
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"These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him." 1 John 2:20, 21, 26, 28I realize that I have written a lot here, dear one, but it really isn't that much: faith, in Christ, so that one can hear HIM... as he speaks... THROUGH his blood (and so God's)... holy spirit... to OUR blood. It is the blood that speaks, dear one. All we need do is LISTEN.
I hope this helps and, again, peace to you!
YSSFS of Christ,
Shellama