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Or... is she?

Peace to you all!

Your servant, sister, and a slave of Christ,

Shel

Is this what you're thinking?

Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Heb 13:2

Peace to you my brother, so glad to hear you.....hope all is well!

My thoughts exactly. Thank you for sharing this verse. Folks, especially professed bible readers shouldn’t have such a problem believing in spirit beings ( aliens) interacting with humans. We have verses to show this. Abraham/ Lot/ Jacob/ Jacobs ladder/ Moses/ Paul etc. Many professed believers wouldn’t have called these faithful men “ crazy” and yet still will have issue with this women’s story.
Interesting!


Peace and love to you all,
Kim

Greetings and peace to you, dear LQ -

Not along those lines, no. The article states:



She goes on to say:



For the verse you quoted, those who entertained angels were simply unaware that such WERE angels... but they actually did SEE them (they had put on flesh and so appeared as "able-bodied" men (versus, say, deformed men or even what we would consider "aliens"). Else, how could they have entertained/shown hospitality to them, to someone they couldn't even see?

For years, decades even, I've shared that just because we can't SEE spirit beings... and particularly the Christ... doesn't mean they/he doesn't exist. And to go further, just because some (think they) can't hear him, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. There are all manner of sounds that the human ear "can't hear," at least, not on its own, yet that doesn't mean the sound is nonexistent. I offer dog whistles, tones on certain radio frequencies, sonar (as some animals can hear such), etc.

This woman is a scientist. I mean, who knows what SHE saw "out there"? That she didn't come back and make a big fuss about it is understandable. Even that she kept a tight lid on it. I mean, who would believe her today, let alone have believed her 28 years ago?

That was my point with this article. Really had nothing to do with any Biblical verse, per se.

Again, peace to you!

Your servant, sister, and a slave of Christ,

Shel

I guess that's true, unknowingly entertaining angels would mean they're visible.

Funny... after watching sci-fi shows like Star Trek, the idea of "non-corporeal beings" out there, even those that only one person sees or hears while everyone else doesn't, isn't that much of a stretch.

Which brings up a question that I've had for a while. Maybe we talked about it at some point, but I'm not finding it in the search.

See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven. - Matt 18:10

And when he knocked at the door of the gateway, a servant girl named Rhoda came to answer. 14 Recognizing Peter's voice, in her joy she did not open the gate but ran in and reported that Peter was standing at the gate. 15 They said to her, “You are out of your mind.” But she kept insisting that it was so, and they kept saying, “It is his angel!” 16 But Peter continued knocking, and when they opened, they saw him and were amazed. - Acts 12:13-16

What is meant by "their" angels and "his" angel? Just a curiosity. Also, why would those people even think it's Peter's angel? I mean, what would drive them to even have that thought at the forefront of their minds?

Greetings and peace to you, dear LQ!

The very purpose of angels are to serve and in the following order:

- Our Father JaH, first and foremost (Daniel 7:9-10b; Job 1:2; 2:1);
- Our dear Lord JaH'eShua (and Ad'Ham before him) (Ezekiel 28:13, 14; Genesis 1:28; Luke 4:6, 7, 10, 11; Psalm 91:11);
- Those of our Lord's Body (2 Kings 6:17; Psalm 34:7; 91:1-11; Acts 5:19; 12:7);
- The "sheep" who've done good to even a least one of our Lord's brothers and so become subjects of the kingdom (Matthew 25:34, 40; Hebrews 1:14)

These... the Father, the Son, the Body, and those who Christ and his Body rule over... are the very reason angels were created: to minister (to these).

Again, peace to you and to your dear household!

Your servant, sister, and a slave of Christ,

Shel

2 Kings 6:17 was a verse that I was searching for before I wrote this, but it didn't have "angel" in the verse, so my search-fu missed it. I was going to include it in my question, but didn't because I couldn't find it!

Anyway, yes, I get that. More specifically, do certain ones have assigned angels? In Acts 12:15 account, they refer to "his angel" and the Matt 18:10 account as "their angels".

Peace to you, dear LQ -

Per our dear Lord, not one specific angel, no, but several/many. So, for example, when it mentions "his angel" the meaning is one of many (Matthew 4:11; Luke 4:10).

Many years ago, three of them came to wash my feet. They were sent to show me what they truly WANT to do: serve us! They were the cutest, ugliest, little creatures I had ever seen. Before that, though, I was taken in spirit into the spirit realm and a group of them began "ministering" to me. Almost immediately, though, I had a judgmental thought as to their appearance. As soon as I had the thought I knew it was wrong - they were treating me with love, there was no "bad" where we were, and I... ME... was the one who had brought something unclean in - my judgmental thought. They ALL immediately dispersed from me but AS SOON as I felt regret over my stupid error they IMMEDIATELY came back and returned to ministering to me and treating me with love, as if absolutely nothing had occurred. They didn't change their love, didn't treat me differently, nothing - just returned to their work.

It was a very wonderful but VERT teaching experience - I now understand the FULL meaning of Isaiah 11:9; 65:25b and I will NEVER forget the point: guard your HEART. Because there's some UGLY stuff in there!

I hope that's helpful.

Again, peace to you and to your dear household!

Your servant, sister, and a slave of Christ,

Shel

Hehe... I've not heard angels described quite this way before, though I seem to recall you saying something along the lines of "gargoyle-like" or something like that. Ah, yes, here it is.



Pardon my ignorance. What does VERT mean? I looked it up and it means the color green. Was this a typo or is that what you meant?


You lost me there. How do these two verses relate to angels? Are you saying the "they" in those verses are not actually the wolf, bear, lion, cobra or serpent, but instead angels?