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 Post subject: The "Little" Dogs...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:56 am 
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May you ALL have peace!

As you know, I have four puppies whom I love tremendously (Louie, 8; Liyah, almost 7; Layla, about 4-5; and now, Lilly, almost 4 months... and running around my feet right now like something crazy!!). Some of you others have pups you love, too. Although I always liked them, I can't say I've always LOVE dogs. That only occurred when I met my oldest one, Louie: he was about 4 weeks old, as small as a soda can, and when I bent down to say "hello" he jumped in my arms. He "chose" me... for some reason. Since then, he has also shown that he is in tune to my diabetes, acting strangely when I am too high or too low (although, it's usually only at night, when I'm asleep - he jumps around and wakes me up). Because of his gift, he is a registered service animal.

All of that aside, I now understand why dogs are an important to ME, why I "see" their personalities, more than ever before (when they were pretty much just "pets"): they can be a "help" for the flesh:

http://blog.petflow.com/i-never-knew-th ... ign=PFPost


Of course, I knew before of this ability they have, to detect illness, disease, danger, etc.... but I never put it together that such... dogs... CAN be an instrument used by our dear Lord. I certainly feel as if mine are for ME, and particularly Louie. I well-regard and respect my pups, as you all know... but now, I realize that perhaps I (will) "owe" one or more of THEM in some ways.

I am sharing this because I realize many believe dogs to be "unclean," some based on the "Bible's" comments about dogs. But domesticated dogs... the "little" dogs... are not what JAH and Christ deemed unclean. Rather, it was the wild dogs (lycaon pictus, aka "African wild dogs"... and hyenas, etc.) that were unclean. Because those will kill... so as to eat... a human. Jezebel wasn't eaten by labradors... rottweilers... chihuahuas... spaniels... or even pit bull terriers. She was eaten by wild dogs... which dogs can still be found lurking outside villages and cities in the norther Africa/Sinai/Middle East regions. That's not to say that domesticated dogs WON'T kill a human; some will... but usually not for food OR just willy nilly. They are either reacting to some kind of threat/interference by a human or to the training they received from a human.

"Little" dogs, as my dear Lord referred to them, though, were not just SMALL dogs... but were the dogs... of EVERY size... that, due to being domesticate and NOT wild... were allowed in peoples' HOUSES. Hence, they ate the crumbs that fell from the tables of [the children] that were Israel. Wild dogs would never be allowed NEAR the table... let alone close enough to eat the crumbs that fell from them. And some of those "little" dogs were fairly big dogs... used by their owners in the hunt, to ward off lions, etc.

The dogs that ate Jezebel did so OUTSIDE of the gates of Jezreel. One of the reasons cities back then HAD gates... was because they had walls... to keep not only marauders/enemies... but wild animals... dogs (hyenas, etc.,), lions, etc., OUT. When Jehu arrived at Jezreel, he called for Jezebel to be thrown down as he was entering the gate. She was thrown... OUTSIDE the wall, though. How can we know? Because, (1) as she fell her body HIT the wall (so, obviously, they tossed her NEAR it)... and (2) as LEADER, Jehu would have entered the gate FIRST... with his ARMY (on horses) following BEHIND... and Jezebel was trampled by the horses before her dead body was devoured by the (wild) dogs... and so she had to have been through OUTSIDE the wall... her body hitting the OUTSIDE of the wall, as she fell. (Note, this is not about the gory way Jezebel died - if you read the account, you might conclude she received what she deserved, given whom SHE killed... and why. I digress.)

The wild dogs that were considered unclean are these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycaon_pic ... g_and_diet


I hope this helps... particularly those who still harbor some level of dislike for domestic dogs due to thinking they are "unclean." Domestic dogs are not "unclean"... but can actually be our friends. Indeed, more than any other non-human earthly creature. Most are clean... as to their owner/masters... on the INSIDE... and some (most?) can detect uncleanness (i.e., illness, disease, etc.)... INSIDE... OUR (vessels) flesh. Might not be a good thing, then, to disdain them too much. One COULD (be used to) save your (fleshly) life. In various ways.

Peace to you, all!

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All pets are unclean. If you have children you shouldn't have pets inside the house. They carry diseases. Oh my, ho I get p****d off when I see cats on top of car or at my entrance or inside my pots and a few minutes earlier they were diving in the garbage boxes. I want to vomit every time I open my entrance door from the garbage smell coming from our pots.


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Well, dear Anomos....

There are a lot of " unclean" people as well if that is how you must look at it. And I refer to unclean as " in their spirit". Which is much more dangerous than the " outside" of the cup or bodies.

But anywhooooo....

Not all people are animal lovers, I get that! There was a day ( when Iwas a JW) I disliked dogs quite a bit because I felt similar. But I have had a change of heart. I realize they are persons as well, just with fur instead of skin. They are extremely underestimated in their intelligence and feelings by man. Which is a huge contribution to the abuse of them. If we could look at it as we all have to answer to how we treat creation, we would simply think twice as to the treatment of animals.

But anywhoooo,

To each his own. I love my fur baby ( Ollie) more than I ever thought it would. He's my buddy!

Peace and love to you dear A and thanks Shelby for the link...
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That was an awesome video, Shelby, thanks for sharing that. Incredible.


I got our dog to help my son who was unhappy, and to bring some simple laughter into my house and ZZ did all of those things. Also, petting our animals is a known stress reducer... and how many xjws find some comfort in their dogs, who don't shun them and don't leave them and don't judge them, even while everyone else they know and love ARE doing those things?


I've never really loved a pet like I do our dog. I am sure that is a great deal because of the help and happiness and laughter he gave my family when this was needed. I always used to think some people were a little 'crazy' to consider their pets family members, etc, etc. Until ZZ. Because he became a member of our family, to me. (he always was for everyone else, but I was never that sentimental around animals)

I don't even know when it happened; I just remember dropping him off at a kennel once when I was taking my boys to California for our vacation (this place is like a dog vacation for him), and I drove away SO sad to be leaving him behind, even if only for a week. And I remember thinking... whoa, when did THAT happen, lol.



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My "people" are house people... who get bathed once a week, dear ANOMOS (peace to you, luv!). They have all of their shots, have NO illnesses/diseases, and save a little shedding, are actually a bit easier to clean up after than some grown folks I've known in my life.

But, as dear 'Mom shared (peace, luv!), to each his/her own. I am not a cat person, so I totally understand your... mmmmm... aversion. I think I remember seeing some show where cats are ALSO able to detect cancer (or some other illness) in humans, though, so I won't totally write them off.

For me, that we have fur people who can do such a thing... detect major disease like cancer... and here, in URINE (and not, say, through blood tests or after the cancer has eaten the person's insides away)... while there are humans in the BUSINESS of detecting... yet, even with all of their state-of-the-art technology, MISS things... well, my hat's off to the fur people.

Perhaps on day, the two working together... fur people and human people... will be how "man" finds the "cure" for many illnesses (I say "man," because even if the fur people take them by the hand and literally LEAD them to a cure, man is SURE to take the credit for it). If I had my doubts, it would be because man doesn't always listen (to his betters). Because he thinks HE has ALL the answers... or his methods are the ONLY methods and so the only way to GET to the answers.

Thankfully, the dear lady in the video didn't buy THAT melarkey (I know, I spelled it wrong; I like the "e", though, better than two "a"s so...)...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:31 pm 
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ANOMOS wrote:
All pets are unclean. If you have children you shouldn't have pets inside the house. They carry diseases. Oh my, ho I get p****d off when I see cats on top of car or at my entrance or inside my pots and a few minutes earlier they were diving in the garbage boxes. I want to vomit every time I open my entrance door from the garbage smell coming from our pots.


OMG that is quite the statement. I have always had a dog and big ones too. They live in the house are inside dogs though go out to pee and Poop. I have never got sick from my dogs.


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Couldn't watch it.

I miss my dog terribly. I will never forget our times together. It's lonely here now.

She was old, ill and it was Time.

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We have to be cautious. But I like pets too. We had pets in the past and still have some sort of them-but outside the house. What I hate is that in Athens the owners don't give a s*** about where their pets do their needs and our city is full of it!


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Dogs are not wild animals and are meant to live with people. NOT outside chained to a post or all by themselves in a shed or yard. Dogs that are not kept with people are the ones that are the problem and they become crazy and misbehaved just like a person would be.

Dogs aren't just pets, they are used to serve in the Armed forces and to help the blind and disabled. They are wonderful creatures.

Dogs have feelings and unique individual personalities.

My dog Jake a German Shepherd mourned deeply for my husband when he died 12 years ago this month. He just knew there was something wrong and that his Daddy was dead. He threw up for 3 days and would not eat. He was a huge comfort for me laying his head on my lap and offered his paw for me to show he cared. His Daddy played in a baseball league and we always took Jake to the game to watch. The year after my husband died I was out for a walk with Jake and we walked past a baseball diamond with people playing baseball. He was off leash as we were in a park and he bounded over to the bullpen area looking for his Daddy. He was smart enough to recognize the baseball diamond and what it meant even though it wasn't the same park or place.

My Labrador retriever Tazzy heard that someone here said dogs are unclean and filthy and carry diseases. He was not a impressed. This is what he said in his silent language. LOL
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LOL,

Good morning and thank you ZOE for sharing this story. Yes, they mourn and become so depressed. They are extremely loyal and all they live for is our love and affection.

Sorry for the loss to you and Jake. And Tazzy is absolutely adorable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:30 am 
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Ditto dear 'Mom's sentiments, dear Zoe (mornin' and peace to you, both... and I can't even imagine how BOTH of you felt losing your dear pets - Shel fondly thinking of Kaia)...

What I hate is that in Athens the owners don't give a s*** about where their pets do their needs and our city is full of it!

I hate that, too, dear ANOMOS (peace, luv!)... and it happens right here in the good old USofA. DISGUSTING! I was walking my pups once and bent down to pick up a doodie and two guys watching from across the street went "Ewwwwww! OMG! You DIDN'T just touch that!" I thought, WHAT yahoos! I said, "Of course, I did! What, you expect me to just LEAVE it here? Seriously, now!" I could literally see the "lights" go on in their numb skulls ("Wha... oh... yeah, huh? I guess someone oughta pick that up, else WE might hafta step in it!"). Dullards...

Which reminds me of Julio Eglesias... another dimwit. He was bragging about his two BIGS dogs and "loving" walking them in Miami. When the interviewer jokingly asked him about "scooping" that IDJIT responded, "WHAT?! NO!! I don't pick it up! I would NEVER..." and you could see the look of utter disbelief on the interviewers face. I hoped with ALL of my heart that some of his "fans" would TWITTER his silly *ss... and set him STRAIGHT! Dude, they're YOUR frickin' DOGS! Why in the WORLD should someone ELSE have to pick it up... risk stepping in it... or having THEIR dog contract some awful disease because YOU'RE too frickin' high and mighty "important" (i.e., famous)... or LAZY (which is probably the REAL reason) to do it YOURSELF!??"

Shaking head...

Earthling man. Go frickin' figure.

Ah, well...

Peace!

Shell-of-macaroni... on her own, but VERY zealous about THIS matter... as ya'll can see (rachafracharachafracha lazy *ssed folks who won't pick up their OWN dogs "bizness" just get on my LAST frickin' nerve!)...


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Just wanted to share some kudos for the pit bulls...
Saved this deaf boys life....


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Chaco was a pit mix. They are fantastic companions. She was the bestest ever.

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Ohhhh... we hung out with Masie (Mason) for a bit yesterday, dear 'Mom (peace, luv!). He's GORGEOUS... and SO well mannered (not like my knuckleheads can be sometimes! LOLOL!). He had mange for awhile (apparently, known to the breed)... but he received his meds and now his coat is fantastic! You remember Tay-Tay? JUST like that! Same color, texture, and shine! He was SO happy to see me - LOLOLOL! He was like "Hey, GRAMMA!!" LOLOLOL!

And he's huge. I mean, he's a BIG boy... and he's still a puppy! GOTTA weigh close to 80 if not more! But SWEET as they come!

I made the older people take him to puppy training AND pit specific training... because I didn't want anything bad to happen to HIM (I researched the breed when they first took him in and it seems that their issues are usually with others dogs and people sometimes get harmed when trying to break up a doggie spat - I did NOT want the girl caught up in anything because he weighs almost as much as she does and there's NO way she would be able to hold him back if he got into it with another dog. And since he's so sweet, the other dog might "start it." So I wanted to be SURE he would obey her when she called/commanded him!).

Such a misunderstood... misrepresented... misUSED and ABUSED... breed (OMG, the IDJITS over here who raise the males only to FIGHT them (in covert garages, etc.) and just breed and breed the females, until they're utterly exhausted... after which they just TURN THEM OUT ON THE STREET!!! Just abandon them (they do that with chihuahuas, too... which is why I took in Lilly: as you know, her former owner didn't want her any long and one of the first things she said to me was "You can breed her!" I thought, lady, gimme that poor baby!). And here... pits are NEVER adopted out; they are ALWAYS euthanized!! OMG...

I abhor people who abuse/don't understand children... and animals. Absolutely NO excuse for EITHER, IMHO.

Okay, down off my soapbox. But, I mean, I'm jus' sayin'. Nohmsayin'? I know you do, girl!

Peace!

Shellamar, on her own...


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