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 Post subject: The Blue Dot
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:15 am 
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I think about all the wonderful things I have learned from this site and then you watch this short video and see the power of Jah, we are just a speck in this wonderful universe.

http://truthseekerdaily.com/2013/11/the ... ver-taken/


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:10 pm 
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Yes, we truly are just a speck and yet he cares for us.

The one thing I didn't like about the video is the statement that among all this vastness, there is no hint of anyone saving us from ourselves. I just personally feel it discredits our father Jah that with all the suffering and blood spilled upon this earth, that he is not responsible for yet he still offered HIS SON to save us from ourselves and yet so many refuse to listen to Him!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:13 pm 
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Yes that was the one part I did not like either


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Nowhere to be seen as far as the intestellar space... doesn't this mean anything to you, instead of condemning the video? How far is he?


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Nowhere to be seen as far as the intestellar space... doesn't this mean anything to you, instead of condemning the video? How far is he?


I understand both dear 'Mom's position and yours, dear ANOMOS (peace to you!)... but it seems that you haven't considered something and that is that the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, is NOT far off from ANY of us! All one need do is reach out... and through His Son, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

Of course, that begs the question: if He's close why is He "nowhere to be seen" in the "interstellar" space? The answer, of course, would be because interstellar space is part of the PHYSICAL universe, dear one... and JAH is a spirit. And thus, not of THIS world... or universe. OUR universe is INSIDE of His world, though; indeed, it came OUT of His world. His world not only surrounds ours but permeates it - He is within AND without, as to us. We, though, are without, as to Him.

Unfortunately, many believe there is only the one (physical) universe. Other believe there are multi-verses, but that such are physical, as well. Unlike our world, which is bound by various "laws" (of physics, etc.)... the spirit realm is a "free" world. Hence, things like oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, mass, matter, gravity, etc., don't exist there as there is no need FOR such there - there is no physicality and so no laws that effect/relate to such.

The "laws" of THAT realm are things like love, joy, faith, etc. Things of the SPIRIT... because there is no PHYSICAL flesh to "rule"... or rule OVER.

I can also understand that perhaps you are weary, even tired... of "waiting." Many are. Israel was... and so built a golden calf, called IT "JaHVEH", and bowed down before IT... just one day before Moses returned down the mountain. They ran out of patience, again, when MischaJah didn't appear for a couple millenia after Moses told them that he would be sent... and so persecuted him (by persecuting the Prophets sent to tell ABOUT him).

I cannot ask you or anyone to continue patient and with faith - for most, such is a personal choice; for a few (like John the Baptizer, etc.), it is a divine vocation. You must believe... and do... what you feel is best for you.

But JAH is not far off from ANY of us, including you. That you may no longer feel the need... or desire... to grope for him is... unfortunate, IMHO. Perhaps had others told you the TRUTH, from the beginning, ABOUT the Truth, Christ, you would not have run out of patience but looked for him, found him, become found BY him... and so become (more) long-suffering, perhaps considering that it may be even one of your own flesh... but perhaps not yet born IN the flesh... that is the reason for the "delay." Who knows?

Peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:45 pm 
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Nowhere to be seen as far as the intestellar space... doesn't this mean anything to you, instead of condemning the video? How far is he?


I understand both dear 'Mom's position and yours, dear ANOMOS (peace to you!)... but it seems that you haven't considered something and that is that the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, is NOT far off from ANY of us! All one need do is reach out... and through His Son, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

Of course, that begs the question: if He's close why is He "nowhere to be seen" in the "interstellar" space? The answer, of course, would be because interstellar space is part of the PHYSICAL universe, dear one... and JAH is a spirit. And thus, not of THIS world... or universe. OUR universe is INSIDE of His world, though; indeed, it came OUT of His world. His world not only surrounds ours but permeates it - He is within AND without, as to us. We, though, are without, as to Him.

Unfortunately, many believe there is only the one (physical) universe. Other believe there are multi-verses, but that such are physical, as well. Unlike our world, which is bound by various "laws" (of physics, etc.)... the spirit realm is a "free" world. Hence, things like oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, mass, matter, gravity, etc., don't exist there as there is no need FOR such there - there is no physicality and so no laws that effect/relate to such.

The "laws" of THAT realm are things like love, joy, faith, etc. Things of the SPIRIT... because there is no PHYSICAL flesh to "rule"... or rule OVER.

I can also understand that perhaps you are weary, even tired... of "waiting." Many are. Israel was... and so built a golden calf, called IT "JaHVEH", and bowed down before IT... just one day before Moses returned down the mountain. They ran out of patience, again, when MischaJah didn't appear for a couple millenia after Moses told them that he would be sent... and so persecuted him (by persecuting the Prophets sent to tell ABOUT him).

I cannot ask you or anyone to continue patient and with faith - for most, such is a personal choice; for a few (like John the Baptizer, etc.), it is a divine vocation. You must believe... and do... what you feel is best for you.

But JAH is not far off from ANY of us, including you. That you may no longer feel the need... or desire... to grope for him is... unfortunate, IMHO. Perhaps had others told you the TRUTH, from the beginning, ABOUT the Truth, Christ, you would not have run out of patience but looked for him, found him, become found BY him... and so become (more) long-suffering, perhaps considering that it may be even one of your own flesh... but perhaps not yet born IN the flesh... that is the reason for the "delay." Who knows?

Peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar



/:) beautifully stated, thank you!

Love you, Justmom


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 Post subject: Re: The Blue Dot
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:54 pm 
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I need a sign. Oh, well I am fed up waiting, if he comes let him come-he will be more than welcome.


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I need a sign.


You were given one, dear ANOMOS (mornin' and peace to you, luv!) - we ALL were: three days in the grave, then resurrection to life. The "sign of Jonah." I don't know about YOU, but someone rising from the dead? I mean, what more do you NEED? That's absolutely a good enough sign for ME. Sadly, not good enough for most, though. EVEN some who profess to HAVE faith.

Ah, well... earthling man: what can you do? Wait, I know: resurrect yourself from death! Oh, wait... no, he did that, didn't he? Yet, they STILL lack faith. Earthling man. Go figure.

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I need a sign.


You were given one, dear ANOMOS (mornin' and peace to you, luv!) - we ALL were: three days in the grave, then resurrection to life. The "sign of Jonah." I don't know about YOU, but someone rising from the dead? I mean, what more do you NEED? That's absolutely a good enough sign for ME. Sadly, not good enough for most, though. EVEN some who profess to HAVE faith.

Ah, well... earthling man: what can you do? Wait, I know: resurrect yourself from death! Oh, wait... no, he did that, didn't he? Yet, they STILL lack faith. Earthling man. Go figure.

Peace!

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Shellamar


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 Post subject: Re: The Blue Dot
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:35 pm 
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That was 2000 years ago. A lot have happened till then. Something has gone wrong. We need a sign today.


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Yet, neither you nor I have been waiting 2,000 years, though, right (peace to you, luv!)? For me, it's really only been a few decades which, if I were to gauge it by the life of my children... have passed by like a breeze (I can remember when they were in diapers! Seems like just yesterday!).

Patience, dear one (peace to you!): the next one (Matthew 24:30) is on its way... and soon enough. Yet, not TOO soon, right? I mean, plenty of folks that could still wake up, yet, yes? And maybe some have children/grandchilden that are still being waited on, yet... to be born into this world... y'know? Goodness, what if that sign had appeared... and Christ returned... say, during our parents/grandparents generation? Or before that, even long before? You and I would never have come into being!

It's one thing to keep in expectation of the thing hoped for - it's another entirely to make service to God and Christ based on a timeframe one places ON that hope themselves ("within MY lifetime/generation, Lord!"). Can make a person grow weary... even age more rapidly than they would have had they taken a moment to ENJOY the life they were given (joy being a FRUIT of God's spirit, and so it really IS okay to have joy/BE joyful... in spite of what the WTBTS... well, many of those in it... who I believe actually get OFF on being "miserable"... and we ALL know that misery LOVES company, so...).

Enjoy life... even though if one is truly following Christ... will be a torture pole (at times, if not all the time!)... and not a rose garden (at least, not often).

Sorry, dear one, but I don't get it: do I want to be a part of Christ's kingdom? You betcha! Do I WANT an end to all pain and suffering to come? I absolutely do! BUT... I also know what the "Day of JAH" truly means... and I ain't cravin' it, at ALL! I wish there was some OTHER way... but there isn't. And so, I am hoping we, mankind, are given even MORE time... to get ourselves together, to WAKE UP, and to realize what this is all really about! So that perhaps we ALL can give praise, honor, and glory to the MOST High God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... and to His Son and Christ, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah).

Of course, I know that's not going to be the case, either ("When the Son of Man arrives, will he really find faith in the earth?" "Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life... and FEW are the ones finding it"). And so given that... I am content to wait on HIS time table.

I could be wrong, but you seem to have run out of patience. I am sorry for that, but I am not sorry that God has not... yet.

Peace to you, dear ANOMOS, truly!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar, who find's it... mmmmmmm... interesting... how, when watching our children grow up, we always remark how fast the time went by ("They were just babies! The time just "flew" by!)... but when speaking as to Christ returning a few decades are compared with "2,000 years." Time is a funny thing, is it not? Flying by on the one hand... yet, dragging its feet on the other... yet, it being the same period of time...


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 Post subject: Re: The Blue Dot
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Hello Anomos



That was 2000 years ago. A lot have happened till then. Something has gone wrong. We need a sign today.


Just curious, what are you referring to when you said "Something has gone wrong"?

FinalCall


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:41 pm 
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It's 2000 years without any sign. Before Jesus' time there was no such big interval.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:15 pm 
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So . . . how many years BEFORE Christ was the last sign seen? And what was THAT sign, if you know?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:20 pm 
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I'm not sure I can agree with you, dear ANOMOS (peace to you, luv!). Seems to me it was quite some time between, say, the prophecy in Eden (Genesis 3:15)... and the arrival of the seed mentioned there. There is much debate, of course, about the exact time period during which such a prophesy might have been uttered (as well whether it was uttered at all)... but I would venture that it was over 2,000 years. Over 4,000 years, even. Maybe.

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