xjwsforChrist

Only one photo (collage of 3 photos actually) suffices.
WARNING it is a bit graphic but I urge all to see it:
https://athens.indymedia.org/media/upload/2014/07/25/assets_LARGE_t_420_54377890.JPG
Why so much sorrow? How can you justify this?

No need to link to more horrible scenes that remind me of Greek Tragedy.

ANOMOS - TRY GOOGLING SUICIDE BOMBING BY PALESTINIANS

Palestinians strap bombs to children and pregnant women.

Palestinians bomb inside Israel. I am trying to post some photos.
You want graphic photos of suicide bombers and the people they
blow to bits ? There are thousands and thousands of lives Palestinian
bombers have taken, Hamas and Hezbolla terrorists.
Palestinians use children as human shields.

When I was in Lebanon Arab women would break the bones of their
own children and sit and beg with them laying the broken body of
their own child across their lap, for pity.

What is you motive here? This is sensationalism. It is fear and hatred mongering
against Israel and these ex-jws eat it up and think your doing them a service.

Who ARE you ? Are you really a radical Muslim? Posing as an ex-jw ?
Are you an active Elder and love the suit and tie and being a big shot ?
This site is for EX- JW's we are "apostates" Who are you really ?
Do you still follow that False Prophet and the Watchtower anti-Christ ?

Lol, I think our members deserve a bit more credit than that. Very few people even comment on these threads.. which is neither agreement or disagreement. Perhaps it is simply disinterest, OR people not wishing to speak on a matter that they have little knowledge OF. But everyone who wishes to have knowledge can read and research for themselves, rather than take mine, Anomos', or your word for anything. (and/or ask Christ to guide us into the truth of this or any matter) And that is as it should be.


Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

"That is as it should be" -tec ?
This coming from someone who thinks his weird dreams
are coming from God ? The Lord "showing you something" ?

Anomos is here and still an active Elder serving the False Prophet ?
What is his purpose ? Does he help people exit that Cult ?
Does he still believe the false doctrines they destroy peoples
lives with ? The WT is his guide ? The WT is anti-Christ.

If people wishing to exit the WT come to this site they will find
Jews being bashed and ignorant propaganda against Israel and
people raving on about their fantastical dreams that mean nothing
and passing it off as Christianity. And everyone congratulating
everyone else who supports this nonsense.

Tec - There is plenty of information about the real
history of the Middle East after WW11 and the development of Hamas
and Hezbola and the other Muslim movements to establish worldwide
Caliphates. If you have not read the history of the last 200 years,
I suggest you go to the library and research and educate yourself.

Why not learn from me ? I am as good a teacher as any. I am University
educated, University of California to be exact, with all the appropriate
degrees and I taught for the Vancouver School Board.
And you get your information from "Dreams" brought on by
indigestion ?

When Jesus spoke of the "little flock" he was referring to the Nation of Israel
and the "Great Crowd" are the Gentile Nations. Your guide is not your dreams.
Your guide is contained in the words of Jesus Christ.

And women are equal to men in spiritual authority.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, male or female, you are all one in Christ "
This is not the Watchtower where women are relegated to second class
citizens with no authority, I have as much authority as you, and I am quite
sure more eduction. Except for the A-Guesst woman who claims to have
a Doctorate in Law - I can provide you with proof of my degree - just call
the university and I will give you my name and they will confirm my credentials.
I doubt A-Guest is able to confirm what she claims.

This site fails to have thousands visit it because of (... edited by admin) What is the purpose of this site?
It does not seem to have one.
tec - very few people comment, because very few people come here
and the mentality of the posts is the reason.

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

I (tec) am a she, not a he... and yes, although I would not describe any dream coming from my Lord as being weird. Have you read the introduction on this forum? Or taken a read around threads from categories that are not politics, science, world events?



Anomos is a member of this forum, posting as he wishes to, within the forum guidelines. What he is - in relation to the wts - is his business. Whether he helps people out or not is also his business. If he chooses to share the answers to these questions, then great. If not, what is it to you?




If the above is true, then again, what is it to you? Is this your forum? Do you HAVE to be here? Does anyone have to be here who does not wish to be here?

We are not hiding anything. We are quite clear on what we are about. You can read it here:

viewtopic.php?f=61&t=775


If you do not like that or do not agree with it or cannot respect that it is who we are, no one is forcing you to be here.

Jews are NOT being bashed, btw. The policies and actions of Israel are being disagreed with and/or denounced by some, and with various passion.

Politics is not what we are about, but that section has been active for a week or two, due completely to the current war going on between Israel and Gaza. No one has to agree with any of it though.





Thank you, I have done so. What I have learned does not comport with what you have learned. This does not surprise me, mind you. There is a lot of conflicting info out there. That even Israel and Jews are divided on the matter should give anyone a heads up on that.



I must disagree. You are not as good a teacher as any. Christ - the teacher - is the only One I have.

Does that mean that He does not direct me to read, research, etc, on a matter? Of course not. He has done so, and during that study He can (and does) ask ME questions to get me to THINK about certain issues.

He also teaches me - on this and other matters - things that 'scholars and all their degrees' often don't even consider. For instance, on this issue - that Palestinians consist also of the lost ten tribes of Israel. Meaning that they have as much right to that land as Jews. (if one is going by the 'christian' or 'jewish' 'god-given' biblical right) Ten tribe kingdom verses the two tribe kingdom, all over again. That should not be surprising. History tends to repeat itself. And even though they don't recall their lineage from thousands of years ago, and even though they obviously converted at some point to Islam... God knows were every drop of blood of Israel (as well as from the descendants of Abraham) rests.

The blood speaks. To Him as it is... (and to us, through genetic testing, blood tests, etc)



Depending upon which verse you are quoting from,

The little flock that He had in his disciples/apostles... were from Israel. Mainly from the Jews. To begin with. (though some Samaritans - from the ten tribe Kingdom - also became his disciples, as you can read from the account about the Samaritan woman)

The other sheep he had to bring were from anyone other than these, including the nations, yes.

If you are referring to what is written in REvelation, the 144000 are specifically from each of the 12 tribes of physical Israel. The Great Crowd that joins these ones as kings and priests with Him are from EVERY tribe, nation, people, culture, language.

These are the two that become one.

My guide is not my dreams, you are right. My guide, teacher, Lord, master, King... is Christ. But who am I to limit how He teaches me? He can (and does) speak to me (and to all who belong to Him - MY sheep hear my voice) in words, in spirit, in dreams, in visions (though I have not had a vision, except in a dream). He speaks. So yes, His words DO teach... but his words are not only those words that we have written down in the bible.

Christ is alive, and He DOES speak... as Living beings DO.





Since i am also a woman, most of this cannot be directed at me. As for Aguest, this site exists because our Lord told her to build it, something that she and I did together. Since she is not a liar, and I know this from knowing her, and also from my Lord, I know that what she has said about her education is true. No doubts whatsoever on the matter. She is my sister in Christ, and I am blessed to have her as such.

As for having authority - I have no authority whatsoever of my own... Christ is the authority, and I am servant to all He would send me to, all who belong to Him and all show seek Him... and HIS slave.





I could not care less how many people visit or not. It is here for those who need it, as my Lord wished it to be. (I am going to edit out your personal insults once again against the members of this forum, but I am not going to give you another warning. If you cannot abide by the rules, then you will have sanctions against your account on the very next breaking of this rule.)

I posted the link above to the purpose of this site, which had you read and looked around before posting, you would know already.



See above.


Again, peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

This is bogus theology made up by who ? You ? 144,000 is not a literal number.
There ARE NO LITERAL NUMBERS IN REVELATION. The number is symbolic and it does not
refer to literal Israelites. And no Samaritans were among Jesus followers they were all Jews
and Paul was a Jew and all the disciples were Jews and no Jews were accepted until 3 years
after the death of Christ when Peter had his vision of the clean and unclean animals.

You should care about what impression this site gives since it is a place
people looking for and exit out of the WT cult come to, mistakenly thinking
you have seen the false doctrines, and the 144,000 as a literal number is one.
But here you are still believing the Watchtower lies.

If you have a site full of lunatics and anti-smites and people who believe in
Watchtower doctrines - why call it Xjws for Christ ? It is misleading.
Call it sneakyeldersplayingaround.com or wtbelieverswhodontgiveadamn.com
or peoplewhothinktheyaregodorgodtalkstothem.com

So we have a Jewish member here posting about who may I be. Sorry, I am not going to reply to her fantasies.

It is, and this is not from me, but from my Lord.




Says who? By what authority do you speak on this matter? Your own? If so, how could you even take issue with me if I WERE speaking on my own? Though I am not. Not that you have to take my word for it. You can go to Him and ask HIM to tell you what is true.

If you think He does not speak, then you are not even listening to the words that we DO have written that come from Him. Surely, you know what verses these are? If not, this is one thread that makes note of many of them:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1757&hilit=my+sheep+hear+my+voice



No samaritans became disciples of Christ?

How would you explain this:

John 4:39-42

Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.

42 They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”


(Paul was a Jew, but from the tribe of Benjamin, that had been absorbed into Judah)




The wts believes the number is literal, but does not believe that the 12 tribes are literal, physical Israel. Because it does not fit into their theology about themselves. However, God did say that he had reserved a remnant (of Israel) for Himself. But in addition to these 12 tribes, joined with them, are those from EVERY nation, tribe, language... and that number is NOT counted. Because anyone can come into them, including from Israel... those who are not reserved in the 144000.


That is nothing like the wts theology. Not that it matters. We do not reject something just because someone false states it. We reject something because it is against Christ. But in this case, what He has taught on this matter, shared above, is not what the wts teaches on this matter.




And I think that is the last time you are permitted to insult the members of this forum. (lunatics... really, how hard is it to follow the no-name-calling rule?) You apparently cannot at this time respect the rules of this forum, or the warnings given by admin (and mods). And I cannot allow you to continue to do it at the expense of the members here, who came here because this is a safe place to share their faith in the Living and speaking Spirit, who is Christ, Jaheshua, the Holy Spirit and Holy One of Israel, Son of the Most Holy One of Israel, Jahveh.


I do wish you peace, as Christ gives peace, and ears to hear if you wish them, so that you may hear when the Spirit and the Bride say to YOU, "Come!... take the free gift of the water of life." Let all who thirst, "Come!" And let him who HEARS, SAY "Come!"

Your servant still, and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Anomos there is no reason to bring up Villagegirl being a "Jewish" member, unless you are doing so as a slur against Jewish people, in which case you are giving fuel to the accusations being lodged against you that you are anti-semitic.

It is like saying some 'white' member or some 'black' member is posting about who you may be. The description of race/nationality is irrelevant. Except perhaps as a slur against that race/nationality, and that is against the rules of the forum.


You don't have to respond to her accusations against you; that is true, especially since you are not here preaching the wts to anyone. But it was inappropriate and petty to bring her nationality into this. That cannot be allowed on this forum.



peace again to you both,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

The number is symbolic and it does not
refer to literal Israelites. And no Samaritans were among Jesus followers they were all Jews
and Paul was a Jew and all the disciples were Jews and no Jews were accepted until 3 years
after the death of Christ when Peter had his vision of the clean and unclean animals.

No samaritans became disciples of Christ?

Tec said...

How would you explain this:

John 4:39-42

Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.

42 They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”



Greetings and peace to you all...


no Jews were accepted until 3 years
after the death of Christ when Peter had his vision of the clean and unclean animals.



My understanding in reading the entire chapter of Acts 10 is that Peters vision of the clean and unclean when he was told to " stop calling unclean what God has cleansed" was when the way opened up to the GENTILES with Cornelius and his household among the first to receive Holy Spirit.

Cornelius was a Gentile from Caesarea making him an Samaritan as well.

Just a thought
Peace and love to you all,
Kim

I brought the nationality as the thread is related to the events taking place there and her reactions. I did not use it in offending manner for other Jewish people. If you call me Greek I do not feel offended at all. It is my honor. Shouldn't she feel proud of her nationality too?

Allow me a bit more, for we are native residents in this area of the world and in a way or another we have common ancestors. Greeks have Semitic roots too. So I feel I am justified to say a few more words to my 'brothers/sisters' without offending them.

Okay Anomos. Could be that you did not mean it offensively, as you state here. Tone can be lost, as you know, on-line. It sounded dismissive to me... that her thoughts/words were to be dismissed on the basis of her being Jewish. Even though I do know that you also call Jews comrades who have the same stance as you regarding the treatment of the Palestinians in Gaza.




But did you use it in an offending manner for Villagegirl? Because if you did, then it is offensive, as it is a slur against her nationality/race. That is something that will not be allowed here.


You have done a good job in complying with the directions or requests given to you by admin/mods, Anomos. Please respect this one also.


Now, if you thought that she makes accusations against you because she is pro-Israel and believes you to be anti-semitic (which I do not endorse or believe, btw)... then you might have a point, and this keeps things in the political arena, rather than making a personal slur against someone. But it is not because she is Jewish, since as you have also shown with your posts, there are many Jewish people and groups who share your views on the Gaza war.


Villagegirl owes you an apology for her accusations against you too, unless she can back them up. Otherwise, they are slanderous (or libelous... I don't know which it is, for the internet)


I'm not going to ask each of you to continue to apologize to the other. I am only going to ask that you conduct yourselves with respect toward one another on this forum, regardless of whether you agree or even like one another.


May you again both have peace!


Oh, and one thing more... just something to think about... if people on the internet who are at opposite sides on this conflict cannot even converse with respect for one another or make peace... how in the world can any of us expect Israel and Palestine - who are the ones fighting, dying, living in fear and disruption - to be able to do so in real life?


Your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Better fight in words than in real!

OK edit my post and change the word.